>we kill oren
>server rejoices
>wait why is human rp so shit and balkanized
>no you cant make another empire it will be bad
>cyclical suffering for 3.2 billion years eternal haenser peace-wall nothing state
I participated in the crimes that led to Oren's death (billetiest revanchism, nectorist plots, ect.) and even I recognize we might have screwed up somewhere. The end goal of any human project in my mind is to become part of something greater, or become that greater something, by any means necessary. The point of every prominent enjoyable human project I have participated in during my tenure on the server has been to achieve some sort of greater unity or solidify some region of the human niche. Highlander, Heartlander, what have you, it's always going to be the ideal end goal for any human project. You either join something and help it grow, or grow something for others to join. That is it.
We can't kick sandcastles for 3 generations and then expect there to be anything left to build off of. I'm sorry but most of these irrelevant nothing states should just be vassals of something. I see the server through a human player filter because I only every really participate in humanity, so forgive me if that take is jaded. I'm not saying we need an Oren, but we need change. I never thought I'd say this but I actually agree with James2K slightly. On the topic of realms, I was a GM for a year and a half and saw a lot of realms come and go. Most of them don't necessarily need to exist in any real capacity, and simply exist to fill niches not accurately catered to by pre-existing communities. Most should be vassals though. Also it doesn't matter what GMs think mod admin has technical final say on everything, and beyond that admins can really do whatever they want team input or not. There is a voting system but if you excuse my cynicism I don't think it really matters. GMs get thrown under the bus by red-tags enough (shoutout SpoopyDuck) so I wont kvetch about it much longer.
Admins wont help us yada yada its up to player culture and player actions blah blah blah.
We have to change the server they aren't going to do it for us.