func_Soap 410 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Just now, Space said: too... Money grabbey and lame. Pretty sure it's only happening to make LotC comply to the EULA. That is to say we don't have a choice on the matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space 2335 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Just now, mra8ur93ss said: Pretty sure it's only happening to make LotC comply to the EULA. That is to say we don't have a choice on the matter. That's exactly what's happening. Doesn't make it any less free-to-play-mobile-game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
func_Soap 410 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Feel free to make a suggestion for how else the server can raise enough money without introducing systems commonly seen in Free-to-play games such as CoC, Fractured space or LotC. Oh wait... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telanir 6976 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Jacko said: I would assume that our V.I.P system was the donation system. Players on LOTC certainly aren't customers. This whole donation business seems quite sketchy, overall when looking at minecraft servers in general. Players on LotC are customers as of the EULA implementation (as demanded by Mojang recently). Old donations are grandfathered into the new system. We do not have any venues available for donations as of the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telanir 6976 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 27 minutes ago, Space said: Nothing changed. And idk maybe it wouldn't be sustainable but I'd so much prefer a 'donate to support the server' model. This is too... Money grabbey and lame. To be fair, and I think you'll agree with me here, I prefer "money-grabbey" (as you say) over a non-operational server any day. Some people donate out of goodwill for sure, but not nearly enough people do to cover costs. This isn't out of greed or selfishness, if we were quite frankly LotC would be shut down long ago in favour of a business that would make more money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space 2335 Share Posted May 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Telanir said: To be fair, and I think you'll agree with me here, I prefer "money-grabbey" (as you say) over a non-operational server any day. Some people donate out of goodwill for sure, but not nearly enough people do to cover costs. This isn't out of greed or selfishness, if we were quite frankly LotC would be shut down long ago in favour of a business that would make more money. i mean you never know unless you find out! but probably yeah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telanir 6976 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 10 hours ago, SeventhCircle said: Why do you keep using the term customers? Not four months ago we were donors is this just a marketing thing? Also at the bottom of your first paragraph you make it sound like we're on the brink of running out of funds I thought tythus had sucessfully stock piled enough funds to keep the server going for a few more years? Essentially, Mojang didn't like the fact that we were using the term 'donators' and then rewarding people with perks for it. They told us that we couldn't use those terms, and as such we are complying, not marketing. If we had stock piled enough funds to keep the server running for a few years I think it's safe to say we'd just retire to a vacation home. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer_Bravo 1054 Share Posted May 10, 2016 So if I am a customer I would like to file a formal complaint against the management as a paying client of Lord of the Craft, mainly in concern of the loss of soulbinding at my level of purchase without notice. I am invoking the Right of Infornation in the Consumer Bill of Rights to question the change in value of the soulbind perk formerly issued to the Diamond VIP ($100) seriously why did you move soulbinding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telanir 6976 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, Destroyer_Bravo said: So if I am a customer I would like to file a formal complaint against the management as a paying client of Lord of the Craft, mainly in concern of the loss of soulbinding at my level of purchase without notice. I am invoking the Right of Infornation in the Consumer Bill of Rights to question the change in value of the soulbind perk formerly issued to the Diamond VIP ($100) That was a donator perk that was not grandfathered into the new system for our customers. Edit: Wait, what? Soul binding is EULA compliant and still included in Diamond VIP. Please check it again it should be functional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destroyer_Bravo 1054 Share Posted May 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, Telanir said: Reveal hidden contents That was a donator perk that was not grandfathered into the new system for our customers. Edit: Wait, what? Soul binding is EULA compliant and still included in Diamond VIP. Please check it again it should be functional. The store page reads that Soul Bind is granted to Bedrock VIP. https://www.lordofthecraft.net/store/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telanir 6976 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, Destroyer_Bravo said: The store page reads that Soul Bind is granted to Bedrock VIP. https://www.lordofthecraft.net/store/ It's still in Diamond. We're still ironing everything out, perks haven't changed, only the payment system. :p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tythus 1307 Share Posted May 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Jacko said: I would assume that our V.I.P system was the donation system. Players on LOTC certainly aren't customers. This whole donation business seems quite sketchy, overall when looking at minecraft servers in general. it was but as part of mojang's EULA we are now no longer allowed to call them donation only purchases therefore the rest of the lingo I hate it just as much you you and infact internally we still often refer to them as donations Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E__V__O 2000 Share Posted May 11, 2016 By the term "Gifting to friends" meaning I could transfer the "crowns" to another minecraft account I own to have it get "higher crowns" to "redeem" a higher VIP perk? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky 0 Share Posted May 11, 2016 28 minutes ago, Evark said: By the term "Gifting to friends" meaning I could transfer the "crowns" to another minecraft account I own to have it get "higher crowns" to "redeem" a higher VIP perk? Quoting more than my high-school exams, yes. Gifting goes to other accounts, therefor other accounts meaning your own but why not just redeem them on the other accounts instead of the main and go through all that bs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandan 1452 Share Posted May 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Evark said: By the term "Gifting to friends" meaning I could transfer the "crowns" to another minecraft account I own to have it get "higher crowns" to "redeem" a higher VIP perk? When purchased you've the option of either redeeming them or gifting; however once gifted that option no longer becomes available. However you cant separate the purchases down into like.. 1000 here, 1200 there and 3513 over there. Its all or nothing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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