π»ππ XO Β Β 3066 Share Posted June 28, 2019 greetings everyone, luv here! Β so iβve noticed lots of talk across the forums, various discords, etc that people are unhappy with the villainy rp, specifically dark magic, as of lately on the server. i have been spending some time gathering people of various different communities, primarily blood magic, to help fix this issue and to hopefully provide some enjoyable rp for all of you!Β Β please leave your problems with the current state of dark magic villainy, suggestions, comments, questions, etc down below! iβd love to hear from everyone regardless of the community you primarily play in as i feel like everyoneβs opinion can prove useful moving forward. thank you and try to keep it respectful, please! Β Β 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMoist Β Β 1707 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Hot take: Morghuuls were great when people knew how to rp them right, but then they got flooded with PvP degenerates and splice of lifers who ruined them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunaZaldrizoti Β Β 5708 Share Posted June 28, 2019 As someone new to the darker side of magic, I have noticed that for so many people, defaulting to pvp rather than face a powerful dark mage is always the go-to. I suppose it is allowed and I shouldnβt complain, but if you poke a bear, should you not expect it to fight back? It just doesnβt make sense for you not to simply fight rply, instead of pvping because ooc-ly you know youβll haveΒ the upper hand. Β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archbishop Β Β 1781 Share Posted June 28, 2019 4 hours ago, TheAlphaMoist said: Hot take: Morghuuls were great when people knew how to rp them right, but then they got flooded with PvP degenerates and splice of lifers who ruined them i remember the pet ghoul in cloud temple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorcerio Β Β 4595 Share Posted June 28, 2019 With almost everyone wanting to be a protagonist, at least from my point of view, itβs good to play a component villain for them to fight. Itβs actually quite fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yen Β Β 25 Share Posted June 28, 2019 (edited) You cant play as aΒ villain in LOTC through dark magic, any semblance of villainy you invoke upon someone else is replied with βPvP Defaultβ, so the only functional villains in LOTC are the bandits, who appear to be more of a threat and more powerful due to being able to click with a mouse faster, meanwhile all effort and time your character has spentΒ learning of occultism and things that in theory, if we had actual Dynamic RP, would make them far superior to their peers, gets thrown aside as their whole progress is ignored and not put to use, as they become another blocky character that is taken out by ANYONE, with absolute ease, after a few hits. Β >Ultra Powerful Dark Mage attacks Halfling Toddler >Toddler has great pvp skill OOC although they never touched a weapon IRP, calls pvp default, beats Dark Mage without a problem Β If the server is meant to be a RP one, and not factions, more care should be put to solve things like this, else we just get more and more goons who are interested in pvp than rp. Β Edited June 28, 2019 by Yen 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrynn Β Β 1347 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I havenβt seen a dark mage since athera 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMoist Β Β 1707 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Archbishop said: i remember the pet ghoul in cloud temple. Please donβt, just forget about itΒ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LithiumSedai Β Β 4837 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Hereβs my hot take on the aforementioned βstop pvping us pls ;*(β stance β if you wish to play a villain people will respect, rather than roll their eyes at and call PvP the moment you roll up to them, you should: Β Become involved in the political scene ofΒ LotC, rather than shun it. Seriously, Iβve encountered so manyΒ people who wear their ignorance as a badge of honor. MakeΒ an effort to be presentable within the established communities rather than spendΒ your time badmouthing [insert nation here] on the merit of [insert vague goon or clique-related critique here] while hiding in an edgy death castle charter god knows where. Make an effort to get yourself acquainted with the political goings of the server, and communities other than your evil dark mage evil coven of evil. Not only will it improve your experience, but it will also provide you with excellent opportunities for infiltration and subversion thatΒ willΒ be dealt with in RP. Β Do away with the βspiteful witchβ stereotypes. Understand that cooperative and dynamic RP goes both ways, and using your OP god-tier dark magicks to wipe the floor with whatever hapless soul looks your way the wrong way that day is neither fun nor good villainy RP. Messing with people who do not engage with you doesnβt provide either party with a worthwhile experience. If youβre a frost witchΒ and some dude takes your bait, or if youβre a powerful necromancer and a group of wannabe heroes stands in your way, understand that itβs a scenario both sides gave their consent and dedication to, compared to ruining a random bystanderβs life just because youβre an evil, quirky, bitchy mage. YouΒ willΒ get PvPed. I would PvP you if you tried exploding my head with blood magic because I accidentally offended you. At the very least, if you must do this, provide your victim with a way of fighting back or retreating with minor consequences. Β Understand that having said OP god-tier dark magicks doesnβt make you a superior person. Youβre not entitled to winning just because you think you should be feared in RP, or because youβve spent months studying mineman lore. Planning a fun experience for everyone involved should be a priority, rather than flaunting your MAs. Β Understand that consequences apply to yourself as well, and not only to your victims. When was the last time anybody heard of a Naztherak user PKing? Why do dark mages insist on bullyingΒ RP spots where theyβd been dealt with already? At the very least, if youβre unwilling to PK your character or roleplay the same consequences you expect your victims to endure, you should know when enough is enough and donβt return to a place where youβve been executed or defeated in a fight. 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Respect Β Β 5430 Share Posted June 28, 2019 The thing that I hate the most on the dark mages is the constant seeking for power due to some stupid reason that is used as an excuse for being a godlike character. Of course Iβll PvP that kind of shitter, I donβt want to fight a kid that has a god complex that thinks he can solo 5 players with his superΒ magic. Iβll never accept roleplaying seriously with this kind of person. If anything about people wanting to be an antagonist or kill players as a dark mage, they should roleplay it in a reasonable way instead of being a power creep or else I find it really hard to take them seriously. Β Being a powerful dark mage like 99% of the mages or dark mages doesnβt makes up for a dynamic roleplay experience most of the time because youβll be simply overpowered and annihilated by his hentai tentacles with no chance of resistance or survival because heβs βtoo powerful for you weak lesser kickstarter loser non-immortal peasantβ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HedgeHug Β Β 2045 Share Posted June 28, 2019 How dare you associate shamanism with dark magic Β foul! Β Shame! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unwillingly Β Β 11139 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Honestly don't give dark magic to edgies or people who want to be special snowflakes. Don't let people ask OOCly and don't agree to teach them OOCly, let it be done in rp. A lot of the issue is just that the magic is being given to the wrong people who are super edgy and cringe inducing tbh.Β Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jentos Β Β 6839 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Everyone wants to be the main character. Everyone wants to be the most powerful. Collecting magic, collecting all the wards and enchantments to make yourself invincible. A good antagonist should need none of those, the best of them can undo his oppressors with only his mind. Roleplay is about self sacrifice, you have to give a portion of yourself, or your character to others, so that a story can properly flow, and not just do *laughs as he walks away* like some anime character. The lack of serious role-play stains dark mages, which are unable to properly release a sense of mystery, or depth to their work, rather simply casting something with no spirituality or intricate beliefs behind them. A weak character is a beautiful character. A diseased character is a strong character. Itβs up to you to find the strength to come out of your comfort zone.Β 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angmarzku Β Β 1247 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Theyβll always have the same degenerates with the same problems, no matter what you do.Β And necromancy is now dead because of it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyrunner Β Β 257 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I mean Iβll speak from more a villany prospective and on this server there are two types of people who do villany βIβll defeat you with my superior clicksβ or βIβll defeat you with my several powerful MAs.β Both are based on the inherent need to win above all else. Donβt do this. You are a villain. In any good story you are supposed to lose, you arenβt supposed to be the one living up in a mansion in the hills after you retire. This is my hot take. Villains should be more willing to lose than anyone on this server, and if you lose you should deal with the consequences. This doesnβt mean you need to PK but you should stop doing villainy rp in the same spot, and do not do this across multiple characters in a short period of time, this makes you a villain to the settlement OOCly which is what we should avoid. Β There are so many ways of avoiding to be a bad villain in general and it isnβt exclusive to dark mages, but the power of dark mages can lead to bad Villains. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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