[✗] [WIP #2] [MAGIC SUBMISSION] CANON ADHERENCE

[Xarkly 17299]

4 minutes ago, Tav said:

I don't mean to like downvote on this magic because it's clear you've all put a lot of work into this post as a whole - and I think that's very cool. 
But in my personal opinion, making a 5-slot magic for a community so widespread - and pointed towards a race that keeps itself active without the need for magic seems like a problem. Sure, it's 5 slots, you should be given worth for offering five slots of magic, but - and I've never played a canonist, so I may be wrong - it's .. not like canonists often times spend their slots on other magics? So with that, it feels almost like free power. 

 

I think I might be missing the point - by not making it 5 slots, wouldn't you just be opening this hypothetical up to 'more power'? Since you can pick up another magic?

4 minutes ago, ScreamingDingo said:

hate to be a negative Nancy and I understand the true power of rep but it’s just easier for you to keep one post and edit it with the changes. Idk how the last one ended up in the server discussion section, but just makes it easier for you to be able to mark it as completed and get it reviewed when necessary.

 

Not so much rep, but publicity. It attracts more views (and therefore more feedback) if its a visible topic on the forums than if we just re-pinged in various Discords.

[Totalitarianism_ 593]

Yay! +1

[Mady 3771]

I think this magic would be a really interesting addition and would appeal to a widespread playerbase that otherwise isn’t able to get their hands on magics. Big +1 from me! 

[lemonke 6014]

I am not the best person to review stuff but it looks better! I already liked the magic, so I have really no big issues.

[erictafoya 3276]

I LOVE CANONIST MAGIC! 
+1

[sam33497 7356]

can you spoiler the spells entirely (formatting included) its physically impossible to parse through

 

names of spells can go outside spoiler for seeking

[Tav 4336]

3 minutes ago, Xarkly said:

 

I think I might be missing the point - by not making it 5 slots, wouldn't you just be opening this hypothetical up to 'more power'? Since you can pick up another magic?

 

The point I'm getting at here is that humans and canonists already outweigh darkspawn and things alike without the usage of magics - maybe sometimes templarism. Would giving them this not just be overkill? It's rather common for human players to go their whole run on the character without spending a single magic slot - unless it was something flavorful, like housemagery or bardmancy. It doesn't really feel like there's actually any payment or downsides of getting your character the magic because most the time said players weren't even gonna spend the magic slots anyways. 

[Nimbus_Strike 271]

I'm ngl this needs to be gatekept hard chief

[EmiliainWonderland 2309]

And I mean absolutely no disrespect, but from my understanding of Canonism and what's happened in the server. Isn't the god of canonism technically dead? If I'm wrong I misunderstood what I'd been told. Further delving into my point, I think it'd be very interesting for there to be some form of Holy magic like their was with Xan and Paladins, but after the fall of Xan obviously that was the fall of Paladins too. I'd love to see another deity, one that currently is accounted for or perhaps even written by the lore team and added to the rosters that grants it's followers some form of holy magic like before. 

 

Canonism is based, don't get me wrong. I love it's real world parallels to religions that exist in OUR world. Overall I think it's a fun idea I just can't see how if Xannites lost their magic after the fall of Xan, Canonists would be granted the ability to use Canon Adherence with their deity TOO being dead. Only applies if God IS IN FACT dead, of course.

[yopplwasupxxx 5946]

I am a simple man; I see a Xarkly post, I +1

[Xarkly 17299]

Just now, Tav said:

The point I'm getting at here is that humans and canonists already outweigh darkspawn and things alike without the usage of magics - maybe sometimes templarism. Would giving them this not just be overkill? It's rather common for human players to go their whole run on the character without spending a single magic slot - unless it was something flavorful, like housemagery or bardmancy. It doesn't really feel like there's actually any payment or downsides of getting your character the magic because most the time said players weren't even gonna spend the magic slots anyways. 

 

No - this is something spoken about on the last draft, but raw numbers are not the components to create a compelling rivalry in roleplay. The tools to actually compete against one another (i.e. holy vs dark spells) are much more relevant. The idea here is not to stack humans against darkspawn (since there's a specific redline in this document against that), but rather provide tools and spells that make that interaction a more meaningful one that lasts beyond a random raid here and there.

1 minute ago, EmiliainWonderland said:

And I mean absolutely no disrespect, but from my understanding of Canonism and what's happened in the server. Isn't the god of canonism technically dead? If I'm wrong I misunderstood what I'd been told.

 

Yes - this magic draws power from the Seven Skies (the human afterlife). While many humans believe God/the Creator is in the Seven Skies, this is, in reality, not the case in lore.

[psychra_notte 618]

1 minute ago, EmiliainWonderland said:

And I mean absolutely no disrespect, but from my understanding of Canonism and what's happened in the server. Isn't the god of canonism technically dead? If I'm wrong I misunderstood what I'd been told.

It's been debated, I always here one way or the other. The magic itself is derived from the Realm, The Seven Skies instead of the diety (Aengul, Daemon, etc). At least that is what I understand, anyone feel free to correct me on that

[EmiliainWonderland 2309]

1 minute ago, psychra_notte said:

It's been debated, I always here one way or the other. The magic itself is derived from the Realm, The Seven Skies instead of the diety (Aengul, Daemon, etc). At least that is what I understand, anyone feel free to correct me on that

I did add a bit more to mine, I skimmed the original post, since it is a LOT of information to take in, but if I'M also wrong. That's on me.

[JuliusAakerlund 2402]

2 minutes ago, EmiliainWonderland said:

I did add a bit more to mine, I skimmed the original post, since it is a LOT of information to take in, but if I'M also wrong. That's on me.

 

For clarification the realm itself is a power source. The Xannites can't draw power from a God or Realm of which they are no longer under control of (Dragons own it now).

[psychra_notte 618]

2 minutes ago, EmiliainWonderland said:

I did add a bit more to mine, I skimmed the original post, since it is a LOT of information to take in, but if I'M also wrong. That's on me.

OH I JUST SAW IT! My bad!

 

1 minute ago, JuliusAakerlund said:

For clarification the realm itself is a power source. The Xannites can't draw power from a God or Realm of which they are no longer under control of (Dragons own it now).

WOOP JULIUS GOT IT AS I WAS TYPING A RESPONSE! Refer to him :)