Realms - Activity, System Changes, and Applications Reopened

[kujo_ 2510]

26 minutes ago, NotEvilAtAll said:

Also if activity is going to be the main realm-size limiter again what purpose does tile upkeep serve?

 

dont worry the economy is definitely gonna work this time 

[wowj 9747]

also
@squakhawk@Llir
bring back Settlements 😺@Benleft

[Cat Evocation 3728]

1 hour ago, Llir said:

AFK-farming will now result in a blacklist for your account(s), where you will no longer be tallied towards any activity requirements.

 

What constitutes afk farming? @Llir

Like logging on and just sitting AFK in a city or otherwise?

[sprtn 3340]

59 minutes ago, NotEvilAtAll said:

Also if activity is going to be the main realm-size limiter again what purpose does tile upkeep serve?

unless we take away mina from voting (dumb idea) or find another way to take mina out of the economy (kinda hard), upkeep should 100% stay to balance the in and out. though maybe at a discounted rate, idk 

[Pancho 4197]

PRAISED BE

[Kaiser 2347]

I wanted it to be even HARSHER but Mr. Llir demanded I don't step on the community's balls too much

[_mady07 1540]

Cool 

[Daisy 9731]

So being AFK isn't AFK farming, it's using scripts and/or alts to purposefully try to circumvent the AFK detection algorithms, making you seem non afk when you on fact are 

[Cheese 8881]

2 hours ago, NotEvilAtAll said:

if people are discouraged from hanging around a location when things aren't happening then people will just rely more on planning all events on discord.

https://tenor.com/view/dog-cute-dog-shaking-dog-puppy-cute-puppy-gif-25485866

[lemonke 6014]

4 hours ago, Llir said:

• Realm establishment now requires 25 signatures instead of 15.
• There is now a base fee of 5k mina to establish a realm, in addition to land

Wait, is this also for lairs?

[najtik 183]

And yet we still don't get exact number of players in a realm when we do /realms activity

[JuliusAakerlund 2402]

Please Lower upkeep; it is already too draconic. While taking some mina out of the economy is good, let people spend it on things, too. As someone who actually has to pay for these tile upkeeps, I can tell you the current rate makes more than half of my entire IRP family's money go to upkeep. @Llir It is just a suggestion at the end of the day.

 

(And before anyone says it, remember the average player does not vote daily. Minxmaxxing should not be the standard for balancing everyday mechanics. I should not have to treat LoTC as a daily commitment to pay upkeep.)

[PrinceJose270 1211]

And lo, the changes forces communities to get big or go home. Most realms at the start usualy dont attract to much attention. When you add the factors of Multiple personas, Time, and travel. Even with joining a realm this still feels like a kick in the nuts towards smaller esqued communities. (And with settlements/lairs still iffy, only makes it more difficult to make). 

Hate to say it too, but this server isnt gonna be getting any higher to a degree where implimenting a 10 plus player signature. More money? yea, i can see why. But the issue i can see is theres not enough players, who are already solidified themselves to a realm (with or without the /realm feature) to do such. Likewise theres nothing stopping old nation A from immediately attacking New nation B either with how factiony things have been on the server.

[Jihnyny 5233]

this is stupid. 
instead of focusing on aspects of the server staff can improve, they go back to a system that no one liked and attempt to improve on it despite community disagreenment. Activity checks are stupid. Tiles are stupid and tile upkeep is stupid. If you want a 'stable economy' (which wont exist on lotc, no matter how much you want it to) remove voting lol. As long as you have voting you're just making the server and community growth shittier by dwarfing the chance for new communities to rise.

bring back settlements atleast and a clear rulebook on lairs. 

this isnt preventing the current realm bloat to stay alive, its preventing new groups to form. while the current 'irrelevant' or 'dead' nations can just circle jerk their mina. 

10,000 mina and 25 player sign ups for a new nation just to grab a shitty tile that gives you no good bonus is stupid.
theres also no point having multiple core tiles because the tile upkeep is ridiculously large and /realm activity doesnt support vassals. 

if you want gameplay mechanics, then create actual gameplay mechanics. otherwise just get rid of everything and make it pure rp

'this isnt a factions server!!!'
>implements faction grind mechanics without the fun or consequence of having a realm

[Benleft 2579]

I think settlements are awesome, nations can be tuned to whatever arbitrary systems the tech team decides players need to abide by for the next six months before they are changed again because nothing about nations work, & lairs are confusing (they need to be rethought 😃). Wow. I hate staff team. I love staff team. How does this impact haelunor?