Book copying mods must be banned

[Onnensr 1908]

this man would've walked into the room containing the first printing press and smashed it apart with hammers (and we would've all been better for it)

[Hom 1987]

+1 i’ve been running a bookshop on here for like 2 years and only recently acquired a printing mod for the purpose of quickly fixing typos/formatting errors, it baffled me when i realized just how quickly and efficiently a person could use it to steal other people’s writing. at the very LEAST make it punishable to use printing mods on locked bookshelves, you should have to physically acquire a book to reprint it 

[KamikazeReaper 457]

you dont even need a mod for it, screenshots is all you need

[Slorbin 2932]

This is stupid. You can do this by hand. This is just a tactic so you can make more money by selling rare editions 

[Chimeraof1999 1187]

9 hours ago, Kenzo74 said:

What exactly is archiving?

Was the dwarf going into Hnor library last map and coming out w a belly suspiciously shaped like hundreds of books painstakingly collected through RP diplomacy, trades and policy just archiving?

Well to be fair, HNOR is gone again so

[Wolfy-D 467]

35 minutes ago, Chimeraof1999 said:

Well to be fair, HNOR is gone again so

Nah they are already back

[Kenzo74 755]

44 minutes ago, Chimeraof1999 said:

Well to be fair, HNOR is gone again so

well thats just not true since hnor is around n also hnor has safeguarded its collection for nearly 10 years now, dont need randos archiving stuff

furthermore, ppl dedicated their entire mineman career to collections of books, looking for rare books, trading, doing diplomacy, scouring n whatnot.

the library and being able to manage and protect its huge collection is hnor's most considerable feat and what its known for. some dude who made a new nation last week n is needing books for his library shouldnt go in and copy our shelves that took a decade of work

1 hour ago, Slorbin said:

This is stupid. You can do this by hand. This is just a tactic so you can make more money by selling rare editions 

if u gonna transcribe atleast take 30 minutes to an hour per book not 3 seconds

[Lirinya 4021]

add it into the rules for metagaming/general rules.

 

the use of book copying mods must be done so either with ooc consent (for the means of ooc preservation) or with the proper rp to back it (for the means of transcribing, plagiarism. ic preservation etc)

 

i like stendhal, its a great mod, and itd be a shame to have something banned just because some people cant be trusted.

[ClassyDryad 2367]

I'd smash printing presses if they also came with an X-ray that let you spy into vaults :V

 

General practice I tell scribe minions with these programs is to make sure that the person who wrote the book wrote the book wrote their name in it, and if they didn't I add an additional page or add their name to the title (and usually that my character scribed it.) I'd generally suggest anyone interested in min man archival do this because preserving the identity of the author is important!

[Shaman 244]

I won't ever stop. We're almost at 20,000 books. https://archive.farglade.com/

[tasty_cheesecake 2298]

im gonna make an automaton called book copy bot and mass distribute them in order to mindblast the an gho

[myochii 899]

i dont read majority of your post i saw words ,,peter thiel,, and checked out  , but if this is about copy and pasting books with that one mod and then just inserting a front page that says something cutesy wutesy secret garden fairy flower pants publishers yea i agree i hate that that happened to me once they just took me whole book and added some *** page full of unicode emojis and hearts 

[Chuuwys 502]

I can get behind this if it wasn't for the fact that it makes archiving the hard work of players nigh an impossible task. Additionally, on top of bookshelf bugs, there's the issue where books that are completed but unable to be physically copied through Minecraft's own copy mechanics.

 

If it can't be copied then it has to be ""re/transcribed"" by the player who finds them, with the biggest issue being that the new copy no longer has the name of the original author of the book. In those situations the original should be left as is and any further copies should include a foreword page crediting the original writer, and the item should have an edit token used to detail the name of the original writer at a minimum.

 

On the other hand if you have a public library id assume the information can be copied at any time. If it's private then perhaps report the matter to story team 

 

Edit: that or magically find a way to enforce that a player must spent x amount of IRL minutes per X amount of pages in the book.

Edited May 12 by Chuuwys

[Hiccup392 724]

nonissue

 

[Crevel 7557]

I understand the sentiment behind it, and to an extent, I agree with it. I've always personally supported the idea that if you're going to do something like this, you should at the very least put details on the cover page that mention your character or institution as some sort of archivist, curator, publisher, etc. while giving full credit to the original author as much as you can within the knowledge you have surrounding its authorship. That being said, it's a roleplay standard and expectation issue that should be tackled from a community-level both in RP and in OOC rather than making a new rule which will burden Moderation further with nothingburger investigations where they'll have to try to pinpoint the origins of an alleged Stendhal-copied book, pinpointing timestamps to determine if it was in fact Stendhal-copied rather than transcribed through other means, figure out whether there was a good reason for it being copied/if they were given permission, and whether the content and its reach was unreasonable to determine severity. I'd rather Moderation focus on more serious topics and enforcing the rules that we already have that on occasion get overlooked or ignored.