Aislin 4354 Share Posted March 11, 2012 It's an easy design, I think this is your best bet, Dwarves. Also the cubby hole is good if you want to tax them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbrek the Ancient 140 Share Posted March 11, 2012 1. Too many, there are many clans and alot of them repeat the same story with a different origin. Is that so? Most of the Clans seem pretty unique, especially you and the Frostbeards. 2. Barely any diversity, as many of the clans are mainly combat based... Blackaxes, Braveaxes, Irehearts, Frostbeards. Well, the Frostbeards used to be "Ice-Smiths" but that may have changed. And the Clans didn't used to be all warriors, they used to be more unique, but things seem to have changed. It just needs work. 3. No one is quite acting their role, if I am correct a lot of the clans boast about their qualities such as Ironguts and mining... Sadly I have not seen this occur nor are many of the Ironguts miners! Or Starbreakers blacksmiths as only Arbrek is known as the smith and not the rest of his family. Again, this is new. The Ironguts were the best Smiths and Miners when I joined the server, Ironguts headed the Smiths & Miners Guilds, most of their members were skilled at it, and they were known for it. When I started the Starbreakers all of my members were accomplished Smiths and Miners, but most of them have since left the server or the Clan. Karvia, Aleksis, Klaggen, Karak, Herleif, Durin, and myself are all skilled at Mining and Smithing, only Irin and Bruin aren't, so give my Clan Thread a look before you post about us. :P The thing is, all the Clans just need some work to make them fun and unique again, just getting rid of them is not a solution. Lastly, you still did not answer Darius and myself's response to the "City" design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Grimlie 1072 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 Since you asked Arbrek, though I don't really see the question just a rant ._. The reason I do not wish to build many chambered areas is to make it so dwarves can see the action and have a excuse to join the RP, if we have many chambers dwarves cannot simply join the RP because they aren't in said room where it is occuring. Though it is nice to have a large complex city, in the end it is about efficiency... We all have access to a basic chamber where we all RP within and work! That way we can be close and we can witness everything the dwarves are doing... Though I do like clans it is just we have quite a few with low amounts of players, already I have the support of some of the Grimhalls and Ironguts, I know you guys do not like the idea but the idea of a unified new age will aid in our development in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
firespirit44 1323 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I have a system, but this will be very restrictive roleplay. There will be 4 Great clans, and each dwarf who even wants to be known needs to enter a clan that suits his skills and personality. That way it would not eliminate all the clans, a bigger unity among dwarves, but still retain some form of competitiveness. any dwarves that want power in the govt or even living in the capital needs to be in one of these clans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer active 734 Share Posted March 11, 2012 What about using the clan system I suggested earlier? And on the design Charles you forgot one thing. The armory. I know that you would prefer to have a militia which I am fine with but the kingdoms needs a place to store all of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Grimlie 1072 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 What about using the clan system I suggested earlier? And on the design Charles you forgot one thing. The armory. I know that you would prefer to have a militia which I am fine with but the kingdoms needs a place to store all of it. Storage ^_^ That can serve as the armory! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbrek the Ancient 140 Share Posted March 11, 2012 If you don't mind, I will post my own ideas later. And sorry for the raging, I get irritable when I'm sick. :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Grimlie 1072 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 If you don't mind, I will post my own ideas later. And sorry for the raging, I get irritable when I'm sick. :P Bah it's ok, but Firespirit's idea is worth considering... But being competitive is what I worry will tear us apart again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer active 734 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Storage ^_^ That can serve as the armory! RPly what nation would keep all their weapons and armor in storage? And what did you think of using the clan idea I made a while ago? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dun_Irongut 104 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Since you asked Arbrek, though I don't really see the question just a rant ._. The reason I do not wish to build many chambered areas is to make it so dwarves can see the action and have a excuse to join the RP, if we have many chambers dwarves cannot simply join the RP because they aren't in said room where it is occuring. Though it is nice to have a large complex city, in the end it is about efficiency... We all have access to a basic chamber where we all RP within and work! That way we can be close and we can witness everything the dwarves are doing... Though I do like clans it is just we have quite a few with low amounts of players, already I have the support of some of the Grimhalls and Ironguts, I know you guys do not like the idea but the idea of a unified new age will aid in our development in the future. I didn't suggest something complex, just something on par with Kal'Urguan. A central chamber close to the surface is enough activity wise. Make something that looks nice and that can be expanded on later. As for there being no classes... I've never had a problem with any of the classes, although I'm not sure we've ever had any specified classes. Do you mean Clan Leaders or Guild Leaders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saviordude 133 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Charles, please remember that we're trying to get more dwarfs as well as gather up all the current ones. Now tell me, if we have cubby holes how do you think that will work? [New Dwarf]: Yay! I'm a dwarf now! I can't wait to mine, and smith, and... and... where's my home? [Old Dwarf]: Home? HAH! Us dwarves don't need homes! [New Dwarf]: Wah?.... [Old Dwarf]: REAL dwarves sleep in a hole in the wall with only a chest and a bed for comfort! And that's all you're ever going to get! [New Dwarf]: .... I'm changing to an Elf. Remember Charles, it is human nature to want stuff. And houses count as stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiebe 2493 Share Posted March 11, 2012 I like the ideas but clans mean too much. Great rp comes from clan rivalness im not a leader anymore but I recruit and act high and mighty cause my clan is great. As for ironguts being miners... most of them live in kal Dwain which is amining city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
no longer active 734 Share Posted March 11, 2012 We have had 3 Ironguts be the head miners so clans do what they say they are. Or he Ironguts do at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilgrim 361 Share Posted March 11, 2012 "while my point of view is that more parts of the city should be opened to foreigners, and I believe that is the main point where we differ which would prompt me to redraw a sketch for my plan as well." I'm sorry but I completely hate the idea of a multi-racial city. I would much rather be secluded but not completely secluded. I suppose based on the polls, it would be best that we have an area for foreign traders to interact with us dwarves but i'm against that. Unlike most I would rather be completely secluded and be a self sufficient nation. In the first century for instance. We depended on no other nation. We worked hard, day and night. The orcs challenged us to the imminent wars ahead and we kicked their ass. Even toward the end of Aegis, we still beat them easily. I feel as though dwarves can be requested to fight from other nations, but only for a price. Only if our people and land are at stake shall we attack, which I believe you agreed with me on this. Anyways. I am totally against the idea of a Multi-racial city. I don't want orcs running around our city. I don't want humans and elves buying up homes in our sanctum. I don't want other races being apart of our daily system, buying up stalls so we have to trade with them. If we are going to have a multi-racial area, I would suggest, the very front of the city where they aren't really apart of us. I don't want other races snooping around our city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles_Grimlie 1072 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 -Snip- I know this is true... the thing is we are human in nature but we are dwarves in RP, as I have often addressed this is what brings us down as dwarves because their nature is far more peculiar than any other races or what we where raised to do due to our capitalist background which drives us to succeed as a single being. Though the cubby hole system seems like a horrible idea, dwarves do live in holes! And I have to say ban me now if I am wrong, because that is what dwarves do... The answer to why this works is because people will be getting these homes free, the only way they gain more stuff is through hard work and RP that is our goal as dwarves... Maybe even have them attempt to revolutionize our habits? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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