A Reminder On Status Updates

[Hyperbeem 6]

^^^^ This guy's signature .gif is ******* hilarious

 

Why do we have to restrain ourselves to have our own feelings? I mean we can stop if it hurts anyone, but I don't think that anyone would be offended here...

[Dalek348 1962]

It's only game, why you heff to be mad.

 

 

Good topic. Gets a 7/10 for drama. Showed some good antagonists and protagonists. I'd read again.

Actually I found the antagonist to be quite damaging to my RP and I disagreed with the use of irl mechanics with which they used to type their messages. OOCly the drama went against my first amendment rights. Please remove.

[Neri 3590]

Actually I found the antagonist to be quite damaging to my RP and I disagreed with the use of irl mechanics with which they used to type their messages. OOCly the drama went against my first amendment rights. Please remove.

 

  Yeah I found the fact that the staff tried become Ascended over the normal player to be quite unfair. Clearly nepotism.

[CloakandDagger 134]

Welcome to Happy Fun Server where everyone is nice to everyone and we all get along in our perfect Utopian society!

 

But seriously just covering up issues doesn't solve them, and If I disagree with something I feel I should have the right to rant about it. I 

don't have to hate on anybody but I still should have the right (not to hate to rant).

I would like to market a couple of things 

1. In the real world people are able to rant about everything, this includes degrading, hateful, spiteful, insult-ful, etc. -comments and other words. IT's not like you can censor life (or the people therein) make

 

2. Censoring the players opinion such as by banning them for a status they A. won't do anything but breed resentment for the staff, the player will still be mad, except this time he'll be mad at the staff aswell. B.if you don't let players vent eventually they'll either let all frustration out at once (pugsy) or jet get so fed up they quit the server all together.

 

[Samson Option 9652]

Welcome to Happy Fun Server where everyone is nice to everyone and we all get along in our perfect Utopian society!

 

But seriously just covering up issues doesn't solve them, and If I disagree with something I feel I should have the right to rant about it. I 

don't have to hate on anybody but I still should have the right (not to hate to rant).

I would like to market a couple of things 

1. In the real world people are able to rant about everything, this includes degrading, hateful, spiteful, insult-ful, etc. -comments and other words. IT's not like you can censor life (or the people therein) make

 

2. Censoring the players opinion such as by banning them for a status they A. won't do anything but breed resentment for the staff, the player will still be mad, except this time he'll be mad at the staff aswell. B.if you don't let players vent eventually they'll either let all frustration out at once (pugsy) or jet get so fed up they quit the server all together.

 

I typically do not play straw-man, I guess that is why most of my comments are ignored or thrown into a trashbin by comments that really have no feasible point being said.

 

1. There is a very big difference between an irreverent rant that really shows that the poster isn't seeking remedy, but rather shows that he is a multitude of things such as a rager against the machine, incapable of putting his thoughts in level-headed commentary, and just has fun brewing a storm that the staff has to figure their heads around AND a level-headed, calm, collected, and controlled approach to either the playerbase or the staff that seeks to voice a problem. I pray that most of you on this server atleast over the age of 16 [15 in some states] has actually tried to seek real-world employment, because your example is quite frankly shoddy at best. If I were to go about ranting in the work-place rather than try to seek one-on-one with an employee or sit down in the office with my manager, I'd either be booted and lose my paycheck, or I gain a very bad reputation and employees will become less social as they would see me as a 'problem child'. By no means do I say treat LotC like your life, but some rather good common courtesy and manners can be had in a video game as well as say a basketball game, rant in a basketball game and you'll shun yourself from your teammates. Play by the rules, you'll have a fair chance at either winning or losing the game.

 

2. I'd prefer they leave the server if they are bodily and mentally incapable of pushing back that computer chair in times of rage, take the steps necessary to go outside, and just take a walk. If the video game truly does that much harm to you, reconsider your options. Likewise, I still love the irony that people have brought up censorship, yet there aren't any bans handed or threads locked because of them, seems martyrs won't be made this day ;)

[gabriel101x1 463]

I really don't see why people are so angry over the points listed in the OP that are now punishable...
 

• Questioning bans - Policy currently is that any ban dispute be solved by contacting the GM team.

 

Well that is fine. Posting status' like "unban-insert person-2013" are just pointless and serve no purpose, if a person wishes to express their concern about the legitimacy of a person's ban then they should contact the proper authorities instead of posting those kinds of statuses that almost always turn into flame wars. If you want to get an opinion across then be mature about it.
 

Arguing about IC events - Policy currently is clear that issues of OOC nature are to be handled properly, otherwise flaming just incurs.

 
Not sure why anyone would feel the need to get up in a huff about this in status updates. Do people really value the right to turn arguments regarding rolelpay into statuses and flame wars THAT much?

 

• Snide, Angry, or Sarcastic protesting of Admin/GM/FM/VAT/MAT/AT etc actions - You may notice a pattern here, these things need to be handled privately, properly, and not in a way that can start a flame war.

 

People who try to insult or swear at people in status updates about staff simply because they disagree with a decision should be punished. It's that simple. I'm sorry, but why do people think it is their god-given right to be (and I'll be blunt here), completely immature arses with no ounce of respect, and insult and swear at for little to no reason at the staff of the server who dedicate so much of their time so everyone on this server can continue to enjoy it. And then there is the people who make snide and sarcastic remarks about the staff, preferring a slightly more subtle approach to being an arse. People need to grow up and learn maturity. If you have a problem with someone or someone's decision then be mature about it. Thankfully most statuses are fine, and there are even ones with mature discussions regarding the problems for the server, such as ban appeals; it is just the minority that have to ruin it for everyone.

 

• Offensive material of any kind - Links to pornographic content, racist or hateful material, etc. is strictly against the rules.

 

If you think this rule should not be in place then I am sorry. I am very sorry..

 

• Illegal content - Links to torrent sites or any type of illegal sharing/content websites are not tolerated on our board.

 

Well hopefully we can all agree that we don't want the server to be shut down. Which could indeed happen if the server was found to be in use for the propagation of illegal materials.

[Blundermore 2741]

 

Seriously though guys, this is getting pathetic to even read. Go read what has been said before posting, you might find a lot of the things said by staff members put to bed all these silly ideas of "trying to hide stuff" or "not allowing freedom of speech". This rebel without a cause thing is getting really boring really fast. 

[Skippy 2466]

Yet more of my freedoms are taken from me. :-(

lol this comeback

 

so bad hunwald

 

im disappointed

[Esarolem Greythorn 0]

I think this rules are good! We have a forum to discuss things we don't like!

[Silevon 497]

lol this comeback

so bad hunwald

im disappointed

but it was joke

[mmat 7460]

but it was joke

 

;)

 

[Danny 2232]

I grow weary of the constant mewing from some people whenever a thread is made that simply reiterates or makes the slightest change. This thread brought in nothing actually new - despite the ambiguity of it's content, which some appear to have misinterpreted - yet, still, there's the ridiculous moaning about the trampling of your 'First Amendment Rights'. This isn't America - it's a game. Your rights from the First Amendment aren't required to be granted. Go on almost any website - it'll be the same.

 

You're not going to be banned for doing almost 99% of the things in that OP, as some appear to think. When will you be banned for a status update / comment? When it reaches the point it's illegal, or 100% unacceptable - and even then, the chances of it being a long ban? Unlikely.

 

This is a video game. It's not rules and thread such as this that push players away, it's the attitudes and the behaviour of some members of the community. Stop acting so seriously, and let's return to the days when we were a happy, thriving and entertaining community that actually welcomed players, invited them in and showed at least a slight amount of friendliness towards each other. That's the Lord of the Craft that I played, and that's the reason that I continued to play. The change in the community is undeniable, and is something that needs to change. When people are making such a minor clarification of rules such as this into the equivalent of us stopping you from disagreeing altogether, it's a sure sign that mountains are being made out of molehills.

 

I'll just quote something which I feel we need to actually take heed of:

 

 

LoTC at it's core, is cooperative-roleplay.

 

 

That's what shiftnative said on his leaving post, and it's something that some of us would rather ignore. It's something that we must not ignore, and it's something that we must continue to keep true. Cooperate with each other, cooperate with staff - don't start arguments over the tiniest thing, and start acting friendlier altogether.

 

With regards to the original thread, some of it was rather ambiguous. You are allowed to disagree with bans, and you are allowed to be vocal about that discontent - what we don't allow is people simply going "THE STAFF ARE IDIOTS AND THEY SUCK AND _____ SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BANNED CUS HE'S KL". That's pretty obvious in itself. You are allowed to disagree with the staff on various issues, in the same way you're allowed to disagree with players. There's nothing new in that OP - I think what's occurred, yet again, and as I said previously, is people taking the tiniest issue and trying to turn it into some enormous removal of your rights - it's not, at all. 

 

Start treating the server like what it is - a game - have fun, and enjoy it, rather than just seeking arguments. I'm locking the thread, because it's quite clear that there's no benefit going to come from it remaining open. Just take heed of that quote, and go and enjoy yourself, rather than complaining and crying over tiny things.

 

No GMs, FMs, or Admins posting after this, cheers.

 

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