Racial Benefits

[Pnoynoy 108]

So for you it would be balanced to have 100 humans dealing as much damage as 10 orcs?

It like a gun in a FPS, the higher the rate of fire the less damage it deals.

Have a cookie from me ;-;

 

I would be fine with benefits so long as all races were balanced with their benefits and de-buffs. They aren't. Giving one race lower damage because they have numbers and are winning a war is simply unjustifiable. 

Human do not need any benefits, we have half the map, half the playerbase and half the staff pretty much.

[Silevon 497]

So for you it would be balanced to have 100 humans dealing as much damage as 10 orcs?

It like a gun in a FPS, the higher the rate of fire the less damage it deals.

 

I'm not exactly mad about the Orc damage increase, but about the Dwarf increase. Why are Dwarves stronger at every combat skill than Humans, other than bows? It does not make sense.

 

Have a cookie from me ;-;

 

Human do not need any benefits, we have half the map, half the playerbase and half the staff pretty much.

 

1. About a quarter that is populated. - (Note: Land does not impact fighting ability.)
2. [citation needed] - (Note: Numbers do not impact fighting ability.)
3. One admin and two GMs, now half the staff? - (Note: Staff does not impact fighting ability.)

[Temp 2006]

Yes but the numbers none the less are there. I do not see the issue for having races with MUCH  smaller player bases to get these benefits, is there an actual problem? Since we have the numbers, the supreme leadership what is the actual problem? War is not fair, that is what people were told that had complaints, so..war is not fair guys.

 

 

Except, the Dwarves don't have that much smaller of a playerbase. Not going to lie, like everyone, numbers are small until a PVP battle comes along. Then everyone seems to have 40 people to throw into the breach. The Dwarves have plenty of people and nearly equal numbers. We MIGHT thwart them by 10-15 people.

 

And taking that notion into perspective, yes, war is not fair, so leave it as is. Just don't tweak anything, ever.

 

 

I kinda have to agree with this, you didn't get where you are only through RP, however nice it would be for that to be true it 

 

1) Isn't, OOC was also important.

2) Isn't really possible to achieve all that through RP only.

 

There's OOC discussion and planning which retains it's RP angle. other than that, I'm not seeing any major OOC. We're not doing anything to pull numbers in, at all. Just letting things go as is.

 

Failing to see the staff holding over this as well. Then again, I joined mid-Asulon, so, who knows?

[Neri 3590]

Have a cookie from me ;-;

 

Human do not need any benefits, we have half the map, half the playerbase and half the staff pretty much.

 

Oren doesn't have "Half of the staff." when the staff are roleplaying in Oren, if they do, then they are players like everyone else!

[Praetor 1550]

I'm not exactly mad about the Orc damage increase, but about the Dwarf increase. Why are Dwarves stronger at every combat skill than Humans, other than bows? It does not make sense.

• About a quarter that is populated. - (Note: Land does not impact fighting ability.)
• [citation needed] - (Note: Numbers do not impact fighting ability.)
• One admin and two GMs, now half the staff? - (Note: Staff does not impact fighting ability.)

 

Oh I agree with the dwarves, as I said a couple times I think they need a health buff, not a damage buff.

 

1: Then why do you conquer it all. As Harambee jokingly said, you take it for lebensraum. This would actually make sense in RP, taking it because you can doesn't.

2: Numbers are the biggest factor in PVP fights, they DO impact fighting ability. And while you don't have half the server in Oren it practically is that much.

3: Mog, Uthor, Zezimus, Rhia (I think), Viscen,... the list goes on. But yes, it doesn't impact fighting ability.....for the most part.

 

[Silevon 497]

Oh I agree with the dwarves, as I said a couple times I think they need a health buff, not a damage buff.

 

1: Then why do you conquer it all. As Harambee jokingly said, you take it for lebensraum. This would actually make sense in RP, taking it because you can doesn't.

2: Numbers are the biggest factor in PVP fights, they DO impact fighting ability. And while you don't have half the server in Oren it practically is that much.

3: Mog, Uthor, Zezimus, Rhia (I think), Viscen,... the list goes on. But yes, it doesn't impact fighting ability.....for the most part.

 

Conquer it all? We haven't tried conquering anything for a while, and if you saw earlier this month, it's the Dwarvees who declared war on us. Numbers are not the biggest factor at all, not at all. One nation could have tons of players but be disorganized and not good at fighting. Rhia is not a Human GM. So, you have about 3 Human GMs and an admin. My, half the staff! Having any GMs does not impact fighting whatsoever, not even for the most part. Completely.

[Pnoynoy 108]

1. About a quarter that is populated. - (Note: Land does not impact fighting ability.)
2. [citation needed] - (Note: Numbers do not impact fighting ability.)
3. One admin and two GMs, now half the staff? - (Note: Staff does not impact fighting ability.)

1. It does.. 2 it certainly does.. 3: Mogroka, Seventh, Braxis, Chaq, Freema, Rhia, (Wode?), Zezimus, Gavlan, Viscen.

7/13 (9/13) Moderators and Mogroka. And staff does have a large impact on what happens.

(Sorry if the list is wrong then i am badly informed.)

[Neri 3590]

1. It does.. 2 it certainly does.. 3: Mogroka, Seventh, Braxis, Chaq, Freema, Rhia, (Wode?), Zezimus, Gavlan, Viscen.

7/13 (9/13) Moderators and Mogroka. And staff does have a large impact on what happens.

(Sorry if the list is wrong then i am badly informed.)

 

Give an example on how having staff on one side in RP influences what happens.

[Temp 2006]

Admins and GMs are everywhere. I fail to see how their presence impacts anything, at all. They're not spawning in waves of crap for us and they don't do anything to give us the edge. How is this relevant, at all?

[Silevon 497]

1. It does.. 2 it certainly does.. 3: Mogroka, Seventh, Braxis, Chaq, Freema, Rhia, (Wode?), Zezimus, Gavlan, Viscen.

7/13 (9/13) Moderators and Mogroka. And staff does have a large impact on what happens.

(Sorry if the list is wrong then i am badly informed.)

 

Mogroka, Braxis, Chaqery, Zezimus, Viscen.

 

About 5 staff members out of the over 20 team-wide.

 

How does land impact fighting ability? Also, read my above post for my response to "numbers impacting" fighting.

[craotor 617]

Since day 1 of the server I wanted these.I'm satisfied

[Pnoynoy 108]

Give an example on how having staff on one side in RP influences what happens.

 

Admins and GMs are everywhere. I fail to see how their presence impacts anything, at all. They're not spawning in waves of crap for us and they don't do anything to give us the edge. How is this relevant, at all?

Ohh i am not going to go into detail cause it will come back to haunt me later. :I

 

 

 

How does land impact fighting ability? Also, read my above post for my response to "numbers impacting" fighting.

 

Cause it is defensible and gives a large advantage. And no no and more no..numbers win MC battles, even with the DMG buff 2vs1 WILL always win if both have the same equipments. If you want i would happily advice you to try this out.

 

[V0idsoldier 1139]

Give an example on how having staff on one side in RP influences what happens.

 

That's a trick question lol. If she or anyone answers that, they will be berated with "Don't be so mean to the staff" and if she or anyone else doesn't answer, then the point is automatically wrong. There is no winning lol.

[Neri 3590]

Ohh i am not going to go into detail cause it will come back to haunt me later. :I

 

Then don't use it as an arguing point. I have seen people strawman GM's multiple times in the past with little proof to back up their claims, painting them in a bad light that simply isn't an accurate portrayal of reality.

 

If you have an issue with a GM, feel free to PM it to an Admin! We're not monsters, you know. (Except Mogroka, he probably eats babies for breakfast and has an oil hoard.)

[Silevon 497]

That's a trick question lol. If she or anyone answers that, they will be berated with "Don't be so mean to the staff" and if she or anyone else doesn't answer, then the point is automatically wrong. There is no winning lol.

 

You should try arguing your point rather than avoiding it.

 

Ohh i am not going to go into detail cause it will come back to haunt me later. :I

 

 

 

 

Cause it is defensible and gives a large advantage. And no no and more no..numbers win MC battles, even with the DMG buff 2vs1 WILL always win if both have the same equipments. If you want i would happily advice you to try this out.

 

 

So land gives Oren an advantage because it's "defensible"? Have you ever been to Urguan?

 

Numbers do not win MC battles. Organization and skill does. The Dwarves has just as much numbers as Oren, yet lost because of organization. Numbers do not impact war.