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Well, maybe if the Orcs an dwarves siege Oren, we can get that huge magical 'bubble' that Malinor got.

Final thoughts? Needs a LOT of work.

Shall I refer you to the rules danny made that no nation can be conquered? 

 

There's your bubble, it's not just Malinor's bubble. 

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Well, maybe if the Orcs an dwarves siege Oren, we can get that huge magical 'bubble' that Malinor got.

Magical bubble? Did you not notice Oren now owns over half of Malinor?

 

 

You can't have the numbers advantage, because you can only bring 5 people, REMEMBER?

Then don't bother with raiding? It's not as if raids achieve anything anyway.

 

Orcs who are halfway decent at PvP could take us on in PvP in full

iron, because remember how I said that a CHAINMAIL Orc took me on, and

I'm a superb PvPer?

Is that not bringing OOC into RP?

 

 

Seriously, what is going to stop the PvP nuts from just switching to the race with the most benefits? Tell me.

They do. Look at how many Blackmonts used to be orcs.

(Unless you're referring to using /setrace, which is a serious issue with the system)

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Then don't bother with completely pointless raids?

Is that not bringing OOC into RP?

PvP has always been OOC, remember how theres a consent rule?

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I do not see how this issue can be sorted if we keep pointing fingers on who is better at what and what needs this and that...

 

Perhaps make a civilized post and lock this one and the new civilized post with a poll only discussing these topics to make it more clean to read and vote upon?.

 

:beer: 

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I do not see how this issue can be sorted if we keep pointing fingers on who is better at what and what needs this and that...

Perhaps make a civilized post and lock this one and the new civilized post with a poll only discussing these topics to make it more clean to read and vote upon?.

:beer:

This is civilized, lol. I don't see anyone saying: Orcs are pieces of **** who need to be nerfed ASAP. I've said already that the buffs need work, and we haven't even gotten a word from a GM or Tech.

These posts are one of the best to read, because they are actual opinions, not a vote on a poll to: Yes or No

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I do not see how this issue can be sorted if we keep pointing fingers on who is better at what and what needs this and that...

 

Perhaps make a civilized post and lock this one and the new civilized post with a poll only discussing these topics to make it more clean to read and vote upon?.

 

:beer: 

[3:53:34 PM] ***: Polls are meaningless, really
[3:53:48 PM] ***: Might as well just have one account called "Oren" and whatever it votes for wins the poll
[3:54:14 PM] ***: We're losing a poll?
[3:54:15 PM] ***: CALL TO ARMS
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This is civilized, lol. I don't see anyone saying: Orcs are pieces of **** who need to be nerfed ASAP. I've said already that the buffs need work, and we haven't even gotten a word from a GM or Tech.

IRL... such a pain, such a drall... 

 

If you're looking for input from a techy I'm sorry to say you're gonna have to wait until one can get in, and find the time to put that input in... until then though, this topic won't really go anywhere past those for, those against, those raging and those who really don't see why people are getting upset.

 

 

 

[3:53:34 PM] ***: Polls are meaningless, really
[3:53:48 PM] ***: Might as well just have one account called "Oren" and whatever it votes for wins the poll
[3:54:14 PM] ***: We're losing a poll?
[3:54:15 PM] ***: CALL TO ARMS

 

Sadly I can agree with that claim from my replacing swears thread that was taken completely out of context, from six votes against spiking to 20 in less than a few minutes. Not even enough time to read all that was said and formulate a proper opinion on the subject. 

 

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This is civilized, lol. I don't see anyone saying: Orcs are pieces of **** who need to be nerfed ASAP. I've said already that the buffs need work, and we haven't even gotten a word from a GM or Tech.

If this is considered civilized than I am un-able to see it, all I see is a bunch of arguments/disagreements/agreements all around this post and everything un-order from each other, which is why a new post to make things more clean should be posted from that a GM or Tech Team can post, so we all have the chance to read it?.

 

Just my opinion.

:idk:

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Humans deal a crushing defeat to dwarves.. then a couple days later dwarves get a massive PVP buff?

 

I'm not saying it's a conspiracy. But it seems like it.

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PvP has always been OOC, remember how theres a consent rule?

 

Then how are PvP buffs powergaming if they're OOC? Besides, the consent rule thing only came in in Asulon. I remember back when RP fighting hadn't been invented yet.

Anyway, PvP is no more OOC than eating is.

 

This is civilized, lol.

Reread all of your posts. I don't see how replying with "HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA. No." and equivalent to various people multiple times is being calm and civilised.

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If this is considered civilized than I am un-able to see it, all I see is a bunch of arguments/disagreements/agreements all around this post and everything un-order from each other, which is why a new post to make things more clean should be posted from that a GM or Tech Team can post, so we all have the chance to read it?.

Just my opinion.

:idk:

Anyone who honestly expected a 'clean thread' from me has got another thing coming. Maybe you don't understand that I want a change, not am asking for one.

@Lago

Did I ever actually flame someone? No? I laughed and maybe made a snide remark, but did I actually hurt someone's feelings on a debate post?

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Maybe you don't understand that I want a change, not am asking for one.


If you think you can force the Administration to do anything then I don't think you've worked out how this server works yet.
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Anyone who honestly expected a 'clean thread' from me has got another thing coming. Maybe you don't understand that I want a change, not am asking for one.

We all want a lot of things. Demanding them however won't get what you want. 

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We all want a lot of things. Demanding them however won't get what you want.

Mmk, w/e blundy. Always count on the Lore team to assist with plugin business, cause they are obviously the makers of it.

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Anyone who honestly expected a 'clean thread' from me has got another thing coming. Maybe you don't understand that I want a change, not am asking for one.

Want and asking are different things, although if you /want/ a change have fun trying to force people to do it... unless they see your eye and by they the GM's+ than your /want/ will never be on the server but only for yourself...

 

Sorry if this is disrespectful?. 

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