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At this point in the debacle I’m considering this debate as just a miscommunication or language barrier because I honestly don’t know how you can read though all the RED LINES and added caveats of this resub and come to the conclusion that they’re somehow a buff ruining the lore. Your opinions aren’t consistent either; first the original lore was bland and passed it’s time and now you stand by it? Do you like the original lore or is it still just another Witcher rip off? Make up your minds on what you hate and show people some actual respect and maybe they’ll throw you a bone in-kind. All you clowns have post when after I call you out for the hypocrisy is cry about this or that franchise. Most of this bullshit is entirely just ‘skin-deep similarities’ and you know that, but that doesn’t matter. Why then should I give a rats’ass if it triggers you that your lore does the exact same thing? The entire basis for your lycanthropy is exactly like every other pop culture reference minus the botchling miscarriage erp, which is the only piece of lore in this conversation that I think would actually pass massive standards. We shouldn’t even have to argue about tropes because we all willingly subscribe to them get our fun out of this server, I agree. Makes it all the more childish that you feel the need to whine without acknowledging your own footing. Striga lore is clarified, if it needs further clarification down the road at least KBR and the others will now have a base for real critiques that can’t be summed up as ‘I don’t like it because it reminds me of [insert franchise]‘ The post has been made, the ST have something to base their critiques and recommendations on. No monkey posting will change that; come bearing real positions and I’m the sure guys will be happy to hear you.

You didn’t build jackshit don’t lie; you just keep ignoring the point. The only things you’ve said so far about the lore is that it’s bland, and unoriginal, that its sucks or it’s some rip-off. There’s never anything to direct to or any tangible things to change, What was tangible has been changed. We worked with the LT and changed what we were recommended to change or clarify. As easy as it is for you to sit there and insult people it’s just as easy for me to do the same. Nobody is making an [insert franchise] rip-off. It’s an example of easy it is to make a statement like that on the tiniest similarity. There isn’t any high ground here; just stop trying to defend clingy shitposting. It’s seriously tiring.

https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/188841-playable-ca-vargs-accursed-werbeasts/ None of what your post consists of was from scratch. Every culture in existence has had some version of Vampires/Werewolves, both exhibit universal tropes in popular culture too; it's naive to pretend otherwise. Everything written has been written before or inspired by something else; Blood Memories have probably been included in every piece of fiction I’ve read or played on the subject since I can remember (from VTM to Bramstoker, to Underworld etc etc). I think it’s cool, you don’t like it and I’m fine with that, but the pointless whinging cuts both ways. Your botchling babies were ripped from the Witcher, transformation and mechanical transmissions of the curse are essentially ripped from Helgraen’s ritual, people are revived in the same way too; point is that doesn’t matter. I really don’t give a ratsass how you want to spin your lycanthropy. No one piece of lore should ever be drawn from one source I agree. What I’m insulted by is people making petty comments and shrugging it off when they’re called on it. All you do is illustrate your own horseshit because it’s easy to call something bland and whine about originality. Doesn’t make it any less annoying. It was shitposting; you have no actual criticism beyond a few vague adjectives strung together in a sentence to make you look smart. So why don’t you give it a rest? Go settle back down into whatever hole you popped out of to write your cheeky troll posts.

It’s sad to see that you try to defend Rhys’ lore when you were one of the main perpetrators behind breaking that motif. The Unseen were only ever omnipresent when it was convenient for you; the Heralds that came and went ultimately broke that fiction via sad story telling. I want players to get to experience what I experienced; if your so blinded by elitism that you’d prefer the lore to be neutered and left as an ET creature when there are Frogs running around being played on the server that's your opinion, it’s not one that is shared by anyone else with a reverence for the type of role-play that we want to accomodate. Every time somebody wanted someone gone, didn’t like how they role-played, or had a general distaste for someone who had been turned they used some form of ‘I have received demands from the Unseen.’ quote to try and kill them all. The notion that the Unseen vanished altogether is the point, that the goal would then be an abstract one of seeing them return; it’s an introduction of type of factionalism that was demanded. It’s all one big straw-man; getting caught in a battle and having your head chopped off will still result in having to wait months on end for somebody else to find and revive that person. The mechanics of the lore were and are fine; when there was ever trouble it's because of the players who were always introduced into the community by people who wanted to bend the rules. There was never a set definition on how much someone could feed, now there is. There was always a set on strength and speed, now it’s highlighted in a red-line so brainlets can read it better. If people power-game that's the fault of the player for being an idiot, it isn’t the fault of the lore. It’s also on the people mentoring that person to show them the ropes, but your brainrott has progressed so far you’ve forgotten that you turned and taught most of the kids who are backing this piece to begin with. But that's the end of my take. All I’d like is the freedom to play my Striga in peace; if this rectification does that then I hope it gets passed.

((Before my little rant I just want to thank the ST who were actually willing to work with the guys on trying to address some of the issues, Mordu, Skyk, Archipelego)) While I haven’t been involved in the full writing of the piece I’ll be very happy to defend it against some of the more frustrating points as I was around for a bit of brainstorming, and the actual process of squeezing out what the hell everyone wanted to change. I need to address the furries in the comments first though. @Boruto @Jentos This: https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/188841-playable-ca-vargs-accursed-werbeasts/ don’t moan about tropes when your own lore can logically fall into the same rabbit hole; if people want to role-play a particular fantasy nishe let them. Nobody is past their time, please desist from Skyrim-Witcher werewolf botchling rp masked behind ‘oh its Mediterranean folklore’ and maybe you’ll have a leg to stand on. It’s a stupid reaction so as a member of the story team try to give some real criticism so it can be changed accordingly and modified to fit with the standard. Seeing how the guys have been treated in trying to rectify the issues of the first round was painful to say the least. The details on what actually needed to be changed were far too vague, a lot of what I noticed was the habit of the commenting ST was to point out something that had already been addressed (like the extent of their strength and speed.) As for what Caleb wants, for one Caleb never responds. The last thing I recall hearing out of him was this: ‘don’t be a witcher rip off and nerf it into the ground.’ Obviously that isn’t encouraging; obviously it was going to be an uphill battle. Striga are already not as strong as people like to assume, and are also no more a rip-off than every other piece of lore that has been inspired by something on this server. There were also other sources that Matt and Maly were inspired by like Underworld and Diablo but nobody likes talking about that so it doesn’t get said. Unfortunately the the choice that was left was let the LT rewrite the lore and run the risk of the original point being lost in the crossfire, or try addressing some of the issues people saw the first time around. We granted them a /better/ purpose; try and revive the Unseen who had now vanished, and now too is there more clarification on the limits of feeding etc etc. If I knew that I was brainstorming for a picture book and everyone would whinge about Skyrim vampires because of switch in the image files used to describe lore that has simply undergone some mechanical clarification. Ultimately I’d like to keep roleplaying my character as is without randomly becoming human or turning to dust but evidently that can’t happen without the ST shitting down my throat and retconning everything, or warping my lord Malythill’s idea into something that I don’t recognize.

Said it outright that the policy involved in the final decision was bad and needs to be changed. Maybe read what people say instead of looking for a +1 punchline.

Yeah it was just something generally distasteful. The way things went after the fact were far too slow and wasted everyone’s time. The fact that Grool was the only one to give him an answer speaks volumes about how it was handled after the initial forum ban (and the fact that I actually found out about the final verdict via that post lol).

Thats essentially why the warning is worded the way it is; I address it twofold ‘rasict or racial content.’ In either case it wouldn’t have been appropriate (breaking one rule or another) either being a breech sub-forum guidelines, or genuinely racist. In this case it was the former which most of us agree on; a name drop, an inappropriate joke worthy of one or two points but not a massive platform-wide ban. I hope that clarifies it a bit.

They’re under the spoiler for sub-forum rules pm, I’ll link u: As for whether or not it was a meme I mean vargposting is kind of self-evident. Again though the steep punishment for reaching ten points is very punitive. It shouldn’t be a service-wide ban in my opinion it should just be a forum ban. If those old points had just been appealed he probably wouldn’t have even been on content mod; since we basically just use it to keep folks at around 7-9 points from getting themselves banned outright.

I’ll intentioned memes are against server policy; third rule down. There is also a passage in our roleplay-guidelines by Harold that stipulates on that a bit more, the post needed to be pointed. It was reported and it in bad taste; yet the moderator who approved the post prior to that also shouldn’t have. Was the ban bad? Yeah definitely. Was the ban justified? According to the policy we’re supposed to follow it was yeah. The solution is then twofold. What stand out in my mind here is the policy that warps the process: The repercussions for reaching ten points on the forums are way too steep. People shouldn’t receive service-wide admin bans for crossing that threshold; punishment should fit the crime folks. APPEAL YOUR OLD DAMN WARNING POINTS. Can’t really stress it enough; on the server we’re unfortunately in the situation where we as individual players are responsible for keeping up with and petitioning to be rid of expired points. That's the way it is; it’s not that hard, it’s just a matter of filling out an application. It’s not ideal. Having points set to expire after a year would be a good start; solving both those issues would probably fix things in the long run and its pretty basic stuff to do. I think what's also necessary is for staff to be as clear, consistent, and decisive as they can be; one of the other major problems being that ultimate decision for this case was dragged through the mud. Appreciate the post.

THE FIST OF MOREA SIGNS

Always been a lot of heat on you Leo; always been a controversial guy in the community. Though you’ve always represented yourself succinctly in the face of that adversity too which I’ve always held a lot of respect for. Stick to your studies, keep posting those dope history vids; you're junzi in my book and I’ll always be down to nerd out with you on that front. I wish you good luck man, and I hope you find a new space to kick back and find some peace. o7

o7 good luck to you man, shoot me your discord so we can stay in touch.

Screw banning him, should jail him and throw away the key. Life in prison if you ask me.

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