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Change the Elven curse?  

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  • 2 hours ago, Pess said:

    It makes sense to have it the way it is now I would say. 

     

    I am. It doesn't impact the everyday life of an elven roleplay the way the orc bloodlust do to an orc or the aging of a human.

     

    Now you could argue that "humans do not age" but the fact that after a while it is enforced that you are old.

     Orc curse is :
  • A meme 
  • An excuse to kill people for loot
  • Can be badly rp'ed (Not all orcs curse rp it bad) 
  • Is not even a disadvantage because it makes them deadlier when wounded (Well, if I take how it's rp'ed)
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18 minutes ago, Sythan said:

twins of two different genders

 

My last comment on this thread is simply that it is actually possible to have identical twins but with different genders. 

 

As we know from biology classes a boy has XY chromosomes and a girl has XX. There is a rare mutation that can happen where an XY zygote splits into twins, which would be male twins, but for some reason one of the twins loses their Y chromosome in the process making them XO. Without the presence of the Y chromosome this twin will develop as a female. However! Because the female twin lacks her second X chromosome she'll be afflicted with what is called Turner Syndrome (Turner Syndrome can happen to non-twin females as well if there is a chromosome damaged or missing for any reason).

 

Here's some examples of the symptoms that females with Turner Syndrome can live with: short stature, ears protruding outward, excess skin on her neck, droopy eyes or even a lazy eye, a broad chest, arms turning slightly out at the elbows, scoliosis or curvature of the spine, flat feet, narrow and small fingernails, and/or toenails that turn upwards. 

 

I researched this months ago because I figured an elf who had twins would have to have identical ones and was curious if identical twins could possibly have different genders. 

 

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So thanks to mutations and the fact that identical twins come from 1 fertilized egg then yes, elves could logically have twins and even twins of opposite genders.

Then again, this is a Minecraft roleplay server so you could also just say magic did it too.

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1 minute ago, Jentos said:
  •  Orc curse is :
  • A meme 
  • An excuse to kill people for loot
  • Can be badly rp'ed (Not all orcs curse rp it bad) 
  • Is not even a disadvantage because it makes them deadlier when wounded (Well, if I take how it's rp'ed)

 

Don't forget what else the Orc Curse is:

 

  • A RP gate against newer players that don't understand blah
  • A form of communication that creates cliques that no one wants to join.
  • Their skins are harder to produce thus ruining more chances for more players.

Just some out of character stuff that makes it harder for the orc community to grow as a whole. Thus promoting its 'meme' culture because of how attuned every single player in the group to one another.

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I'd rather see people RP their blessings more appropriately, particularly the Orcs.

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1 hour ago, Sythan said:

 

The curse is that an elf can have a child once every 15 years, once they reach the required age that is. The curse isn't 'stackable' where if you don't have a child for 30 years, you can suddenly have 2. 

 

That being said, it's only possible regarding identical twins. So in that aspect, sure. I'm fine with it. So twins of two different genders, or those who are not identical, should not be allowed for Elves.

 

 

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'once every four years' is made up by players and not cannon. The curse itself is just 'infertility'. If we were to be technical, no elf could ever have children EVER. but LT isnt rude so they let 'infertile' be stretched. Rare times of pregnancy(15 years) is just what most choose to rp. None of that mentions the chances to have triplets or twins if you DO get pregnant.

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None of the curses are really curses.

 

Orcish bloodlust is an excuse to be item-hungry.

 

Dwarven greed is an excuse to be item-hungry.

 

Human mortality would only be a curse if people aged their characters. Very few do.

 

Elven infertility doesn't affect anyone because most people don't have kids, and those who do can just say "we tried like a bajillion times i swear!!11"

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2 hours ago, Jentos said:
  •  Orc curse is :
  • A meme 
  • An excuse to kill people for loot
  • Can be badly rp'ed (Not all orcs curse rp it bad) 
  • Is not even a disadvantage because it makes them deadlier when wounded (Well, if I take how it's rp'ed)

As an off note, the curse is a disadvantage because it makes them violent and seen as a threat most of the time. Also what the curse does is to make you INSANELY angry so that you blindly attack everything you see, including loved ones. It's not an excuse to kill and loot and doesn't make you overpowered the way you seem to think.

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3 hours ago, Equinox said:

 

Don't forget what else the Orc Curse is:

 

  • A RP gate against newer players that don't understand blah
  • A form of communication that creates cliques that no one wants to join.
  • Their skins are harder to produce thus ruining more chances for more players.

Just some out of character stuff that makes it harder for the orc community to grow as a whole. Thus promoting its 'meme' culture because of how attuned every single player in the group to one another.

 

He forgot to mention that some how their skin makes them tanks. Thus bloodrage for increased damage and defence? What? Yeah I highly doubt skin is armour lmao.

 

In my opinion the orc curse maybe a curse for them socially but physically oocly it has been the greatest blessing they can get to legally harass people via rp. Not saying this is everyone but the common problem people always have is always involving orcs being accused as memes because of this ridiculous curse. Well let's face it their buff is broken in 1v1s, elves (Just elf race not the sub races, woodelves have stupid archery buff, HElves have their magic damage but not all of them are great pvpers) have most likely the shittiest Pvp buff. Humans I don't know they dominate nearly everytime due to their ridiculous numbers. Race buffs are stupid.

 

As for elves well the curse is most likely rped properly but in the end trying to enforce this is quite hard because we are involving a large amount of players in it. Eg The parents and the people playing the kid(s)

So you have a large playerbase to worry about and it's hard to monitor.

 

At the moment I don't find it broken. So why put the effort on trying to fix this? I mean if it's obvious that they rp the curse badly then they need to be told.

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        How are humans screwed over with their curse? As a race they are the strongest and most populous, not to mention I know individuals who do not age their characters and outright ignore the curse. As for the elves, despite their curse they are the second most populous, but that pretty much means nothing. Now I could better sympathize with this cause if you were fed up with the amount of people who totally ignore the curse and are popping out babies every year or so, but the only solution to that is to take up the issue with the elven players who do that kind of crap.

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4 hours ago, Smaw said:

I'd rather see people RP their blessings more appropriately, particularly the Orcs.


^ This right ******* here.

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Why change canon lore? It's not the lores fault that people can't RP their "curse" properly.. And to be honest, does it matter?

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why implement excessively restrictive rules for no reason

 

???

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Honestly, I see a lot of LoTC members that just want to play out escapist fantasies. They want to be married to a qt elf waifu, have three children, live a cozy virtual life without stress or conflict. The elven curse just gets in the way, in fact, any curse will. 

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Hey, I like blah!  Each time I RP with an Orc it makes me happy because of Blah.

 

 

And Jistuma....I know why they exist but we could make the races be separated with lore that actually makes sense.  The founder lore is so bad compared to other lore we have.  Just remove the damn curses.  The main point here is that nobody wants to add restrictions to people for them to enforce something, but we also don't like having lore that nobody follows.  So just remove it!

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