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or you have to accept many things that modern society do not accept to justify eating meat

 

Of course some assumptions to fit the 'morally wrong' part. You do not think murder is good, you think that being morally good is important, etc.

 

 

Main argument: Humans are on a level where eating meat is not necessary for surivval. Therefore, we should move off of it, to stop causing/support harm to animals. There lies no distinction between animals and humans that doesn't either include all humans and some animals or not all humans and some animals. Therefore, if you support treating humans well (not killing them, respecting their right to existence) you need to support that for animals.

 

For example, if the line you draw between other animals and humans is 'humans are most intelligent:' There are animals that are more intelligent than the least intelligent humans (i.e. someone with severe mental disorder). Unless you are ok with enslaving and murdering and torturing those humans, you cannot be ok with the treatment of animals.

 

Common counter-arguments:

 

It is natural - Lots of things are natural that we reject, you need something more i.e. murder.

 

They are a different species and therefore it is alright - This is sorta an appeal to nature. For example, most people would not support killing people who look different, but you are using the same arbitrary boundary.

 

It tastes good - Just because something feels good does not mean we should engage in it. Many things that feel good shouldn't be engaged in, for other reasons.

 

 

oh and just to get EVERYONE triggered if you eat meat you cannot advocate for 'humane' treatment of animals because you support enslaving and murdering these same animals, which is worse than literally anything.

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Have fun debating 

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Plants are alive too and we do the same things to them that we do to animals. Is it suddenly okay because plants can't run from us or scream? 

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I summon the rib lord @Niccum

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You are correct in saying, we don't need it, so we can move off of it. That can be said for anything really. We don't need to eat any of the food that is provided by the Earth. We could easily begin researching synthetic foods that provide all our nutritional needs in a few servings and we'd have that as meals whenever we wanted. Of course we already have stuff like that but I'm talking about ONLY synthetic bars, pastes, tablets, etc that provide a full nutritional meal. I'm sure they could make it taste amazing too with the right research.

 

To say it is morally wrong however is subjective. In that I mean, morality is subjective. We all agree on different morals and have different ideas to what morality is and encompasses. Unless we all agreed on that same exact morals, which we do not (unfortunately), it is subjective. We cannot observe or test morality in a scientific setting. There is no way to measure morality. 

 

"Meat is murder" is just as subjective as "Murdering is bad" is subjective. Some people may agree with murder if it means to protect themselves or if they were raised in an environment where they weren't socialized and taught that murder is bad. If they were taught that murder is a means of survival, its morally correct to them to kill others to survive. "Kill or be killed" mentality so to speak.

 

However, it may be ethically wrong. I need to look into that more.

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On 7/2/2017 at 10:25 PM, Space said:

It tastes good

 

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But most animals are born to be eaten, and it taste good.   

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to be honest i don't care much for animals, but i'd stop eating meat for health benefits. ESPECIALLY fast food meat/ red meat. This is usually the part where I go on a rant about upcoming plant 'meat' and lab grown meat but I'll spare you.

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Gotta have that balanced meal.

Telling us not to eat meat is like telling a cow not to eat a flower because it is alive.

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I'm quietly holding out for lab-grown meat to become a more efficient and cheaper process so it can be mass-produced.

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1 hour ago, Master Sage Delaselva said:

I'm quietly holding out for lab-grown meat to become a more efficient and cheaper process so it can be mass-produced.

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In terms of sustainability, lab grown meat would be a ******* godsend because the meat industry is eating the land so we can eat what eats the land.

 

Lots of eating

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As an ex-vegan and present vegetarian I approve this message.

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On 7/3/2017 at 5:25 AM, Space said:

They are a different species and therefore it is alright - This is sorta an appeal to nature. For example, most people would not support killing people who look different, but you are using the same arbitrary boundary.

What you're saying here is basically that we can't treat anyone or thing differently because any boundary we might draw could be considered arbitrary. If we say that the justification of killing animals by our differences is the same as the justification of killing people by our differences, you're basically saying animals and humans(and much more so all humans) require perfectly equal and exact treatment. So uh, go ahead and **** a toddler because ******* an adult is legal and morally fine. Doesn't matter that kids and adults are different, any boundaries we might draw between them are surely arbitrary if the much bigger boundaries between man and beast are.

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