[Culture] The Hyeol-Yeon

[tadabug2000 4924]

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Hyeol-yeon

Introduction

This is a starting post for a culture we hope to cultivate in Yong Ping. As time goes on, we plan to post more in-depth about clothing, food, and the culture in general. For reference, the Hyeol-yeon are roughly based off of Joseon-dynasty Korea.

Origin

During the Li Empire, they were called the Yuan, peoples of the Cunyuan Region. Since then they've undertaken two more name changes, referring to themselves in their native tongue-- first Salamdeul, which simply means “the people”. With time and history, they eventually settled on the name, Hyeol-yeon, meaning “blood-ties”, a name meant for loyalty to family.

History

Tribal Era

As written in the Easterner Lore, elves were the first to inhabit the land of Ai-zho. Elves were known to inhabit the northern, mountainous area of Cunyuan, while humans began to move into the lower flatlands. In the rest of Ai-zho, elves were driven out by waves of human migration-- however, in the Cunyuan Region, they persisted as the primary race. At this time, there was a human empress known as Lady Hyeol, and an elven general named General Jeong, who went on to discover their respective kingdoms in the First Era, becoming near-legends in Hyeol-yeon history. At this time, they were all known as the Yuan.

The First Era

The Li empire forms, and the Yuan people of the Cunyuan Region are a tributary region to the Li, made up of two kingdoms. One kingdom, Jeong, was primarily proto-elven-- made up of elves that immigrated to Ai-zho before the splitting of elven subraces, the nation was known for intellect and grace, and founded by General Jeong. The other, called Hyeol, was primarily human, split off from the newly-founded Li empire and known for a rebellious bloodthirst for their Li masters-- founded by Lady Hyeol. At this time, the people of this region were known as the Salamdeul.

The Second Era

By this point, the elven and human kingdoms came together, forming the Hyeol-yeon Empire. The Hyeol-yeon Empire was formed by a descendant of General Jeong, named Jeong Jin-ae, and a descendant of Lady Hyeol, named Hyeol Tae-il. The two founded the two royal families of the Hyeol-yeon Empire-- since this time, the Empire would have two Empresses and two Emperors at any given time, almost as if they were two kingdoms that worked in tandem.

Third Era

The Li Dynasty exerts its power over the Cunyuan Region, beginning a rule to last 400 years. However, under the Li Empire, the Hyeol-yeon managed to work out a sort of symbiotic relationship-- as their intellectual sciences and propriety of courts drew in the Li, the Li repaid with protection to live in peace. The elven half of their courts thrived, as the proper, intellectual half of the kingdom, while the short-lived human half started dwindling in number.

Fourth Era

The Li Dynasty has ruled for nearly 400 years, serving to isolate the Cunyuan Region. The elves continued to thrive, hidden away in their elite courts with the Li, while the more crude human races were left to the streets. Only the most elite of human classes are allowed to exist in Hyeol-yeon courts at this point.

However, in modern times, there is slight social reform as the Hyeol-yeon Empire begins to open to the outer world after the Li release their hold on the region. There is often a friendly but constant pressure from Oyashimans, reminding them of their common oppressor. Because of that, Oyashimans and Hyeol-yeon have a friendly but strained relationship-- more friendly with humans, and more strained with elves.

 

Physical Appearance

Within the culture, one might find the Hyeol-yeon people's appearance is an interesting one. Eye colors range anywhere from a honey brown, amber or to a deep black. Skintones range from an alabaster to honey or tan, generally darker in appearance than non-Easterner peoples. Hair colors range from light to dark browns and a variation of blacks. They take great care in their appearance, very uniform in nature. Their stature is the same as the average human, if not a bit on the small and lithe side. 

Clothing

The main article of clothing Hyeol-yeon will wear is the hanbok. A hanbok consists of a blouse or jacket called a jeogori, and a skirt called chima or loose pants called baji. The colors and patterns of the hanbok often denote the status of the person wearing it. For example, a phoenix symbol denotes royalty.

 

Culture

Family

Children within the Hyeol-yeon culture incur a debt to their parents who gave birth to them and raised them. This debt lies behind the idea of filial duty: treating parents respectfully at all times, taking care of them in their old age, mourning them well at proper funerals, and performing ceremonies for them after their deaths. Even fulfilling these duties, however, is not enough to repay the debt to one's parents. The full repayment also entails having children and maintaining the continuity of the family line. Younger children and their wives eventually split from their extended families after a few years of marriage but still considered dependent upon their family. While eldest siblings succeeded to the family leadership and inherited the bulk of the wealth. When their parents die, the eldest child adheres to complex mourning restrictions for one to three years, and conducts annual memorial ceremonies for their parents and other members of their family line. Young children are indulged; Hyeol-yeon feels there is no point disciplining children before they are old enough to reason. By the time a child reached six or seven, though, training began in earnest: parents began the strict separation of girls and boys and they trained children to use the respectful voice to those older or more socially prominent. By the time a child reaches seven, they’d know that they must use the respectful tone of speech to their older sibling, and knew that failure to do so would result in swift and certain punishment. Marriages are oftentimes arranged, though as of recently, love marriages have become more popular.

 

Fighting Styles

Hyeol martial arts are purely based on keeping their distance from an enemy, bows are heavily used, alongside spears and lances and the art of horseback is heavily taught. Tridents and flails are a part of the weapons training, giving the combat some more flexibility and reducing damage the user might find to themselves as close-quarters combat would be avoided.

Traditions

 

Jangseung

Jangseung are extraordinary, striking statues that stand as protectors over the Hyeol-yeon people, sheltering them from harm and are totem poles usually made of wood and sometimes made of stone. Besides greeting visitors, these striking pillars were created to scare away evil spirits that caused famines, natural disasters or epidemics. They’d pray for the health of their families, for a baby, or for a wonderful husband or kind-hearted bride. Thus, the resilient jangseung protected the village from harm and also served as a guardian, with its ears open to the wishes and hopes of the people. Rituals would be conducted, placing offerings of rice cakes and fruit at the foot of their honored guardian.

 

Ssireum

A traditional Hyeol-yeon sport, Ssireum involves using one's entire body in a battle of strength and technique. Two competitors grab one another's belt (called "satba") or trousers and use a combination of physical strength and strategic technique to be the first to knock the opponent to the ground and be declared the winner. In order to win a Ssireum match, physical strength, technique and endurance are required. With the sport's balanced focus on the development of both physical strength and mental fortitude through accurate judgment and patience, Ssireum is a highly beneficial sport on many levels. Ssireum is a beloved sport and while tournaments are held year-round, they are especially prevalent at holiday celebrations and festivals.

 

A Game of Jong

A board game played is called Jongjeongdo, or “climbing the government career ladder”, it’s a game of the career path of an official. People become officials by passing an examination known as the gwageo and receive promotions or punishment according to their service and tenure.

The game starts with a person passing the gwageo to become an official. Players toss a special five-sided die, and advance through government positions on the board based on the number that comes up. The winner is the first to reach the highest positions of premier and commander-in-chief of the military. If no five-sided die can be found, a normal six-sided die can be used, with a rule to roll again if a six comes up. A wrong move could get a player “impeached” and removed from office, or even forced to “drink poison”. Of course, no amount of die-tossing could make a player into the king.

 

Naming Conventions

Last names should be written first, [example, Byun Cha, Byun being the last name and Cha being the first name]. Hyeols usually spell two-syllable names as a joined word or with a hyphen in-between, [example, Chu Jeong would become Chu Je-ong].

Female Names: Ha Eun, Ji Ah, Chin-Sun, Dae and Gi.

Male Names: Min Joon, Chul, Du-Ho, Hyuk and Joon Woo.

 

Marriage

The couple both wear a traditional outfit called the Hwarot, a variation of the Hanbok. The bride has to wear red and the groom has to be in blue. The color represents the balance of the energy between the two. Red dots also get painted on the bride's cheeks as a symbol to protect from evil spirits.

Additionally, the bride and groom's mothers will also wear specific colors to symbolize their familial relationship with the bride and groom. The groom's mother will wear a light blue hanbok specifically and the bride’s mother will wear pink or purple. Guests should avoid wearing colors similar to those.

 

Beforehand, betrothal gifts are brought to the bride's home by a band of the groom's closest friends. The gifts are placed in a box called a hahm. The group would arrive singing at the bride's family home and they would stop just outside the house, chanting, "Hahm for sale, hahm for sale!" The bride's family would rush out and offer money or gifts to the group. Through fun negotiation and laughter, the bearers would be bribed until at last the hahm was delivered. Hahm is supposed to be a box full of gifts to the new bride. It will be something like jewelry, money, nice clothing and such. It's a very festive and fun activity before the wedding, as they’d also make the groom wear a dry squid mask during the process of the gift-giving.

To kick off a wedding ceremony traditional music is played. While the groom would ride to the bride's home by horse. As part of the parade, both mothers will walk in holding candles, the ceremony beginning when both moms enter and light a candle together and take a seat in the first row. The mother of the bride traditionally carried a red candle and the mother of the groom entered carrying a blue candle. Before the wedding, a tradition known as jeonan-rye takes place. As part of jeon-an-rye, the groom gives the bride's mother a wild goose Wild geese mate for life, so his gift is a promise that he will care for her daughter for life.

To show their commitment to each other, the couple ceremonially bows during a part of the wedding ceremony known as gyo-bae-rye. Later, the couple will bow toward their parents during seong-hon-rye as a declaration of their marriage.

After bowing toward each other, but before bowing to their parents, the couple historically sealed their marriage vows by sipping a special wine poured into a gourd grown by the bride's mother during a tradition known as hap-geun-rye. The bride and groom sip the wine from their separate cups and then the wine is mixed together, poured once more into the cups and it's sipped again. This is their wedding vow, the kunbere. The pye-baek is the part of a Korean wedding that follows the vows, or the kunbere part of the wedding. During pye-baek, chestnuts and dates, known as jujube, which symbolizes future children, are exchanged. Wedding banquets can be very simple: Noodle soup being the only required dish as long noodles, symbolizes a wish for a long and happy life and are boiled in beef broth and garnished with vegetables. Dok, a sticky rice cake, is served at most events, especially weddings.

 

Death

Hyeol-yeon funeral traditions begin as soon as a loved one dies. The family wails in a show of emotions called kok to announce the death in the community. The wailing may continue until the cremation. Sangju — the chief mourner — is the first child or grandchild of the deceased. They “let” their parents die, so they are believed to be committing crimes against heaven. As an expression of filial piety, they are in charge of the pre-burial, funeral rites, and memorial. 

The sangju is in charge of preparing the body. The deceased is covered with a white quilt or burial shroud. The body is washed with incense, nails are cut, and hair is combed. Cotton is put in the mouth and ears, coins on the eyes, and rice in the mouth. This ritual helps the deceased in their journey into the afterlife. In the end, the body is dressed in suui, the traditional hemp funeral garb. Mourning begins as soon as a family member dies, and it continues for three days. Mourners hold the funeral procession, and the body makes its way to the temple. During the funeral procession, a noje — roadside memorial — is held to make sure the deceased doesn’t come back to haunt the living if they weren’t given a proper farewell. The body is lowered three times to signal the departure from the home to the deceased spirit. The procession reaches the temple, and a monk performs a ritual to rid the site of evil spirits. An offering of food or wine is made to the spirit. Family members continue to visit the gravesite with offerings on the second and third day after the burial. They make deep bows at the gravesite on the third day. They put away any pictures or ancestral tablets placed in the home. A portrait is present at every Hyeol-yeon funeral. It’s common for Hyeons to choose their own portrait before death.Open grief is a sign of dedication toward the deceased. Wailing doesn’t stop for the entire mourning period, family members yelling “Aigu, aigu” for a parent or “Oi, oi” for other relations. The chief mourner wails for the longest time. It is an expression of grief or even guilt.

There are three times to wail:

• After death.

• After the washing and dressing of the deceased.

• The sangju wails every morning and evening for three years. 

After the first year, the wailing subsides to twice a month. Hyeol-yeons show as much emotion as possible while they grieve. How hard family members sob is a reflection of their dedication to the deceased. Traditionally, they’d sing a loud and mournful chant. A black Sangbok is worn, consisting of a hemp hat, leggings, or an armband. The deceased are cremated and oftentimes turned into cremation beads which are put into special urns on an altar in the home.

 

Social Hierarchy

Royalty- The royalty of the Hyeol-yeon are the highest class on the hierarchy, leading the Hyeol-yeon people and given the highest of educations from a young age, following the matter of religion and learning various skills that’d assist them in the tenure of ruling or various high-ranking positions in life.

Yangban- In the Hyeol-yeon social hierarchy, the Yangban refers to the elite class of office holders or government officials who have passed the prestigious civil service examinations. There are two groups in the yangban class itself: one that comprises of scholars and officials and the second group comprises of remote relatives of these officials. The yangban class generally achieved their positions through educational success and are considered merit based elite.

Chungin- The chungin class is lower to the yangban in the social hierarchy and above the commoners, and comprises a small cluster of technical and secretarial officials. This is inclusive of interpreters, physicians, astronomers and artists as well as specialized military officers.

Sangmin- The vast majority of Hyeol-yeon belongs to the Sangminor commoners class in the social hierarchy. Common merchants, farmers and craftsmen belong to this class and they bear the burden of. They were subject to military enrolment as well and live a hard life compared to yangban and chungin. In the social hierarchy, although the farmers enjoyed a higher prestige than merchants they nonetheless lived a tough life.

Ch’ommin- The base people or Ch’ommin are considered below the commoners and they normally do the despicable or low grade jobs. This class is inclusive of the jail keepers and convicts, professional mourners, and executioners. The group known as Paekchong are also included in this class, who are believed to engage in ‘unclean jobs’ like dealing with hides of animals and meat. 

Religion

Hua-jiao

To become an individual that is connected to the world and enlightened to the true cycle that has the world’s peoples reborn continually, an individual must liberate themselves from the cycle of rebirth that has encompassed the land through the following of the Eight Noble Paths of the Huajiao religion. By following these Eight Paths, one can release themselves from the cycle, attaining the height of one’s existence by ending one’s ignorance and one’s rebirth - The true goal of the Path.

 

 

Fine Arts

Arts and Music

The Hyeol-yeon culture focuses heavily on calligraphy, music, painting and pottery, often marked by the use of natural forms, surface decoration and bold colors or sounds.

Hyeol-yeon calligraphy is seen as an art where brushstrokes reveal the artist's personality enhancing the subject matter that is painted.

Some Hyeol-yeon paintings demand an understanding of ceramics and pottery as the glazes used in these works and the textures of the glazes make Hyeol art more in the tradition of ceramic art. Brush-strokes are very important and paintings are often judged on brush-strokes more often than pure technique.

Hyeol-yeon is closely tied to ceramics which represents tile work, large scale ceramic murals, and architectural elements.

Bamboo pyrography is a unique artwork involved with burning patterns and art on circular bamboo containers.

 

Food and Agriculture

Hyeol-yeon meals often include side dishes such as mandu, noodles, rice cakes, porridge, soups, and pickled vegetables. Meals are elaborate if you are at the top, there being a specific way you would place dishes and the amount you would get depended on your rank. The king would get twelve dishes and the nobility would get around nine. 

 

Architecture

In Hyeol-yeon architecture, buildings often have a stone foundation leading to a curved roof covered with tiles, walls are made of earth and are sometimes composed of sliding doors. Architecture is built according to the kan unit, the distance between two posts (about 3 blocks), and is designed so that there is always a transitional space between the "inside" and the "outside."

 

Language

At the moment, we just use a rough, modern Korean dotted throughout our vocabulary for the sake of simplicity. You likely won’t need more than basic phrases. However, if you’d like to include things like dialects, accents, so on-- feel free to do so. A more in-depth language post may come one day, but in the meantime, it’s very loose-- not much to concern yourself over.

 

Hello - Annyeong (informal), annyeong haseyo (formal)

How are you? - Eottohge jinaeseyo? or jal jinaeyo?

Good - Johayo or joheun

Bad - Anjohayo or nappeun

Thank you - Gamsa (informal), gamsahamnida (formal), gomawoyo

You’re welcome - Cheonmaneyo

Please - Juseyo

Sorry - Mian (informal), mianhaeyo (formal)

Yes - Ne or ye

No - Aniyo

Goodbye - Annyeong (informal), annyeonghi gyeseyo (formal)

Father - Appa (dad), abeoji (father)

Mother - Eomma (mom), eomeoni (mother)

Brother- Hyeong

Sister- Jamae

Elder- Eoreun

Daughter- Ttal

Son- Adeul

Child- Ai

Relative- Chinche

I love you- Dangsine sarang

 

Credits/Citations/Lore Used

Easterner Lore

Recent History
Easterner Cuisine

The Li-Ren

The Oyashiman

Spoiler

List of Korean clothing - Wikipedia

Dangui - WikipediaThe Value and Meaning of the Korean Family | Asia SocietyCategory:Weapons of the Joseon Dynasty - Wikimedia Commons

Muyedobotongji - WikipediaTraditions in South Korea (antiquealive.com)

Hidden Facts You Didn't Know About Joseon Dynasty and Korean Empire — Google Arts & Culture

9 Korean Wedding Traditions You Need to Know About (theknot.com)

Korean Funerals: Traditions, Customs and What to Expect | Cake Blog (joincake.com)

List of Korean traditional festivals - Wikipedia

Korean architecture - WikipediaPast to Present: Joseon Era Foods – SnackFever

 

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Written by tadabug2000, Kimikaa, Fazzie and Derps.

 

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[audyush 747]

For the only nation built entirely of farfolks, it’s an interesting choice to change a portion of its population by making them elves- so I’m curious to see how the new culture goes!

[tadabug2000 4924]

5 minutes ago, audyush said:

For the only nation built entirely of farfolks, it’s an interesting choice to change a portion of its population by making them elves- so I’m curious to see how the new culture goes!

Actually, quite a few of us are already Elves here. It's in the Oyashiman culture and Li-ren culture! The Tianruis are Elves, even the Chens. Elves can be Farfolks too and Elves really need more cultures as well, there is humans with this too, of course <3 Excited to see more cultures here and am really excited to have helped @Kimikato write this up!

[kujo_ 2510]

The traditions are neat, I like that you gave general elaborations on several topics instead of hyperfocusing into one aspect and forgetting about all the other pieces that make up cultures. Some sections in the history are a little strange, don't see how a race cursed by infertility would last at all surrounded by humans without severe inbreeding or half-breeds. 

 

2 minutes ago, tadabug2000 said:

Elves really need more cultures

Not sure how taking distinctly human cultures fixes that

 

[tadabug2000 4924]

6 minutes ago, Kujo said:

The traditions are neat, I like that you gave general elaborations on several topics instead of hyperfocusing into one aspect and forgetting about all the other pieces that make up cultures. Some sections in the history are a little strange, don't see how a race cursed by infertility would last at all surrounded by humans without severe inbreeding or half-breeds. 

 

Not sure how taking distinctly human cultures fixes that

 

It isn't distinctly human, going off of the Easterner lore piece and looking at the other cultures already established, they have Elves set up there and have Elves actively rping there within Yong Ping itself! Point is to have fun with it, there's plenty of humans and this isn't keeping the humans out but it's also allowing people the ability to come in as other races if they'd like as well, which should give some interesting rp! Excited to see it. Otherwise >_> Did a crapton of research on this, been waiting a while to introduce it until timing actually felt right. I'm glad you like the piece, mainly that on traditions, really tried to incorporate things the best I could and still keep it LOTC friendly!

[audyush 747]

1 hour ago, tadabug2000 said:

Elves can be Farfolks

Kinda confused on this ngl lol 

 

elves can’t be farfolk since farfolks are humans,, unless they were half farfolk (human) half elf 

[JoanOfArc 4604]

1 hour ago, Kujo said:

The traditions are neat, I like that you gave general elaborations on several topics instead of hyperfocusing into one aspect and forgetting about all the other pieces that make up cultures. Some sections in the history are a little strange, don't see how a race cursed by infertility would last at all surrounded by humans without severe inbreeding or half-breeds. 

 

Not sure how taking distinctly human cultures fixes that

 

Hello! I wanted to touch on this a bit more as well. As one of the Oyashiman writers with @Monomakhos (Oyashiman writers being the Culture page*, not TauFirewarrior's Oyashiman history or Leowarrior's history post), I do not think the culture should be entirely elf based. The original inclusion of Elves (being Yosei) within our post comes from the fact there were elves played from Oyashima and we wanted to incorporate a lore reason as to why they would allow such. Aeldin, specifically, is such a heavily human dominated continent and it would be completely jarring for a pure elven civilization to exist anymore. Aeldin is a place where the humans came in and conquered it. It would not make sense for them to logically leave an elven civilization there still. The Oyashimans only left the elves there because they first, saw them as spirits, and then second, saw them in an honored spot in their hierarchy. I can understand if you wish and want to play an eastern korean elf, but I think you should look into avenues to allow a more nuanced approach to this at the very least. Especially as this will ruin continuity with past Yuan players whom were humans.

 

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[tadabug2000 4924]

16 minutes ago, audyush said:

Kinda confused on this ngl lol 

 

elves can’t be farfolk since farfolks are humans,, unless they were half farfolk (human) half elf 

With the recent update in lore, which includes Proto Elves, it allows for them to have more specified features and even their own cultures that aren't part of the subraces we usually see! Main point here is to have fun and allow people a chance to enjoy some fun culture stuff. No need to keep out Elves, same as the other cultures!

1 minute ago, JoanOfArc said:

Hello! I wanted to touch on this a bit more as well. As one of the Oyashiman writers with @Monomakhos (Oyashiman writers being the Culture page*, not TauFirewarrior's Oyashiman history or Leowarrior's history post), I do not think the culture should be entirely elf based. The original inclusion of Elves (being Yosei) within our post comes from the fact there were elves played from Oyashima and we wanted to incorporate a lore reason as to why they would allow such. Aeldin, specifically, is such a heavily human dominated continent and it would be completely jarring for a pure elven civilization to exist anymore. Aeldin is a place where the humans came in and conquered it. It would not make sense for them to logically leave an elven civilization there still. The Oyashimans only left the elves there because they first, saw them as spirits, then saw them in an honored spot in their hierarchy. I can understand if you wish and want to play an eastern korean elf, but I think you should look into avenues to allow a more nuanced approach to this at the very least.

 

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It's why it's set up as a smaller culture that had broken off from the rule of the Lis, as did the Oyashimans and others did in history. I'm genuinely confused as to why people have a big problem with Elves being part of it, there are plenty of Li-ren Elves and even that of Oyashiman Elves, actively in rp and from what we've read in lore. The culture isn't entirely Elven either but it gives leeway to allow other races in to enjoy the culture as they please. For example, under Li-ren lore, we have that of the humans, Elves and Dwarves.

[JoanOfArc 4604]

4 minutes ago, tadabug2000 said:

With the recent update in lore, which includes Proto Elves, it allows for them to have more specified features and even their own cultures that aren't part of the subraces we usually see! Main point here is to have fun and allow people a chance to enjoy some fun culture stuff. No need to keep out Elves, same as the other cultures!

It's why it's set up as a smaller culture that had broken off from the rule of the Lis, as did the Oyashimans and others did in history. I'm genuinely confused as to why people have a big problem with Elves being part of it, there are plenty of Li-ren Elves and even that of Oyashiman Elves, actively in rp and from what we've read in lore. The culture isn't entirely Elven either but it gives leeway to allow other races in to enjoy the culture as they please. For example, under Li-ren lore, we have that of the humans, Elves and Dwarves.

 

1 hour ago, tadabug2000 said:

The Li Dynasty has ruled for nearly 400 years, serving to isolate the Cunyuan Region. The elves continued to thrive, hidden away in their elite courts with the Li, while the more crude human races were left to the streets. Only the most elite of human classes are allowed to exist in Hyeol-yeon courts at this point.

My problem is more so the fact the way the history is written as if the Elves are the victor in the Yuan. I am no means a Aeldinic expert seeing as I have to question maly on basically everything regarding the Aeldinic Empire, but the general gist is the fact the humans won in Aeldin. They came and conquered in the south for Ai-Zho. In the North, Horen the Black eventually unified the northern kingdoms and formed the Empire after the humans had already driven out the elves. I think there can be an inclusion of elves, but the way this is written, it hurts the basis of continuity. There were Yuan players before this write up, and this lore basically retcons humans into being second class citizens in a continent they should be oppressors over. I do think there is a clever way of including elves in the society but I do not think in any way they should be in all around authority over humans. It's what I helped come up with Oyashima to justify there being elves. They were spirits and then honored.

[latte 2238]

hello, while this all looks relatively nice, i was wondering why you dont use more historically accurate images as opposed to anime ? it just seems kind of, more aesthetic like. I think that is very important since you are HEAVILY basing this culture off Korean culture.

[tadabug2000 4924]

1 minute ago, JoanOfArc said:

 

My problem is more so the fact the way the history is written as if the Elves are the victor in the Yuan. I am no means a Aeldinic expert seeing as I have to question maly on basically everything regarding the Aeldinic Empire, but the general gist is the fact the humans won in Aeldin. They came and conquered in the south for Ai-Zho. In the North, Horen the Black eventually unified the northern kingdoms and formed the Empire after the humans had already driven out the elves. I think there can be an inclusion of elves, but the way this is written, it hurts the basis of continuity. There were Yuan players before this write up, and this lore basically retcons humans into being second class citizens in a continent they should be oppressors over. I do think there is a clever way of including elves in the society but I do not think in any way they should be in all around authority over humans. It's what I helped come up with Oyashima to justify there being elves. They were spirits and then honored.

I'll have to relook at the history written up itself, since I wrote on the traditions while @Kimikaand Fazzie wrote on the history and such. We did what we could with the little information on forums but most of my work was with writing up and researching traditions, social hierarchy's, courtship and such.

[ScreamingDingo 20568]

Yeah Elves and Aeldinic inclusions are things that'll be really difficult to justify, when majority of the elven population were massacred and such.

 

Also you can't have things not on the Aegis side of existence split off pre subraces (since they didn't exist until after the Aegis exodus to Asulon). Since Aeldin wouldn't be properly populated because the main races didn't move off until then. (And the subraces were established pretty early within the life of Aegis 500-700(ish) with the thirty year war having welves and such (if I remember correctly)

[tadabug2000 4924]

3 minutes ago, latte said:

hello, while this all looks relatively nice, i was wondering why you dont use more historically accurate images as opposed to anime ? it just seems kind of, more aesthetic like. I think that is very important since you are HEAVILY basing this culture off Korean culture.

They certainly aren't meant as anime by any means! The, it's either the first or second image is a diagram of how the clothing works and defining each of it. Can always look into more historically accurate images, ofc

1 minute ago, ScreamingDingo said:

Yeah Elves and Aeldinic inclusions are things that'll be really difficult to justify, when majority of the elven population were massacred and such.

 

Also you can't have things not on the Aegis side of existence split off pre subraces (since they didn't exist until after the Aegis exodus to Asulon). Since Aeldin wouldn't be properly populated because the main races didn't move off until then. (And the subraces were established pretty early within the life of Aegis 500-700(ish) with the thirty year war having welves and such (if I remember correctly)

Not exactly, we did a lot of research and forum scouring before writing any of this, there's an entire section on Oyashiman Elves, not so much on Li-ren but they are still included in there. Those Elves having been pushed off originally would have to gone somewhere, of course. And after speaking with multiple STs on this before, Elves can very much be considered that of Farfolks. As for Aegis, not entirely sure what to say on that but we are making this currently off of what little information there is on forums and a demand for a Korean culture in Yong Ping

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A Notice from the Author

I'd like to start with the fact that someone else had to ask me to post this because they knew exactly how people would react and I'm disappointed to say how people proved them right. This is meant to be a culture to add to Yong Ping and allow people to have fun and no gate-keeping. I currently have players that were excited for this now afraid to play a persona because of the stuff already displayed here, which is utterly ridiculous. This culture started when we had people coming in and asking if we had anything based off of Koreans here and as more and more came in and we got to discussing it, we began our work. If people want to comment on that, I'll be blunt, do it but don't you dare make the people wanting to play this feel inferior because they don't fit into the idea of how one might think Farfolks should be. The Proto Elf lore was introduced recently, it allows for different features and cultures and before they were introduced, I never once played an Elf because I didn't like any of the cultures I was relegated to with whichever subrace I'd be in. This has allowed me not only a chance to play Elves but explore a new aspect of rp. I will be looking to close the topic and I hope those reading this have a lovely night and for those interested, I'm happy to answer questions! I am super excited for this culture, especially after one hell of an introduction today at the pirate eventline. You'll be seeing more of us soon and I am damn-well pleased to have brought this here.