Food Plugin Development

[Aesopian 1639]

 

FABLED FOODS

 

Thanks to the work of @Cheezboi9 with FoodCore, we are now in position to continue development on one of Lord of the Craft’s most requested plugins: food. Whether it be farming, cooking, or raising animals, the playerbase has always been universal in their support of the ability to just make tasty junk – and we on the Technical Team absolutely agree!

 

In response, we have begun development on a series of plugins as part of the Fabled Foods project, hoping to bring to LotC a culinary experience the server has never seen before. However, we are looking for your input as players on how best to proceed.

 

Spoiler

The mother of malice, the long-dead god, the sire of claw and tail, the hand that grasps at the world’s future…

 

Her fingers coil around your throat so tightly that, when you wake from your dreamless sleep, it is with a strangled, desperate whisper. Alone in the sewer, the only ears to hear your gasps are those of the desiccated corpses that were your previous victims. It has been only days since you sacrificed them, yet all that is left is a crumbled mess of dust and bone. 

 

REVENGE.

 

Like a newborn kit having its unready eyes peeled open, you feel yourself yanked upright. The pressure on your neck releases; your rasping breaks into a cough. You nearly fall back over – your body unsteady – but you just barely manage to stay upright. You ascertain that you are weaker, again. You cannot remember the last time rest rejuvenated you. It felt that whenever you shut your eyes, whether in a blink or in sleep, something more of you was gone when you opened them back up.

 

Your back, once merely bent, has now collapsed into a permanent stoop. Skin sags over your bones like wet cloth, freshly speckled with liver spots. Hair stretches as a grey matt all the way to your hips. Formerly razor-sharp eyes, that could pick a sparrow from twenty trunks’ distance, now manage only an unfocused smear of grey where the brick wall opposite you stood.

 

You could hardly believe that your nineteenth birthday was only four months ago. 

 

REVENGE.

 

Her breathy, hate-drenched voice seeps into your mind. You know the only salve for the years crippling your body is to sacrifice to the mother of malice, to pay for your youth with the time of another. You must kill. By killing another, you could take their time for your own, and satisfy the hunger of the mother.

 

From the sewer grate above, moonlight spills like silver water. Perhaps you would be lucky, and some reckless wetnurse has left a babe behind an unlocked window. It feels like a sign.

 

The mother’s power had been growing, and she had become so strong now that the world could feel her claws digging deeper into its past every day. The sacrifices you had made – that your brothers and sisters had made, all throughout the world – had made it possible. Her greatest curse freshly unfolding…

 

Food no longer keeps. Bread blisters into a crawling smear of mold before it leaves the pantry. Fruit blackens from the stem inward, syruping into a sweet, sour ooze that attracts fat, greedy crows; apples split open and breathe a stink of fermented sugar. Salted meat becomes a dry, powdery husk that flakes to dust when touched, and fresh fish bulge and crack under the light, eyes collapsing into black milk. Dairy sours into a thin, curdling film that refuses even the rats; jars of pickles weep and grow hair.

 

This was her doing. Time stolen, in countless slivers, accelerating the aging of all life. 

 

All in service to return her to horrible existence…

 

Metztli. 

 

The previous god of time, who now devours the past to feed her future. 

 

You had heard stories from sailors that her gargantuan rotting corpse, far away in Arcas, grows riper with offal every day. Her skull, once bleached snow-white by the sun, now wears the rotting countenance of a beautiful woman dead scarcely a week. By consuming time, she pushes her own death into the future, and it would not be long now before her death is in the future, and she would be alive again in the present.

 

Steadily, she is closer to the present, closer to now, and you could only imagine the horror she would inflict upon her enemies once she is finally reborn into–but in the midst of your musing, her voice returns.

 

It is so loud that it obliterates all thought. It rolls over your consciousness as easily as an artist draws her brush through paint.

 

REVENGE–LIFE–AGAIN…

 

AND YET, THEY WOULD SAVE IBLEES IN THE NETHER FOR TEN THOUSAND YEARS, BUT NOT ONE OF THEM COULD SAVE ME? NOT ONE OF THEM COULD INTERVENE ON MY BEHALF–COULD STOP MY DEATH? MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS, ALL OF THEM, USELESS–FECKLESS–WORTHLESS…

 

THIS FETID FUTURE, THIS PATH HAS ALWAYS BEEN WRONG. THIS REALITY WAS NEVER MEANT TO EXIST. IT HAS BEEN PERVERTED AWAY FROM THE TRUE PATH, THIS SUFFERING A CRUEL AND DISGUSTING JOKE–

 

MY MURDERER–YOU–

 

I WILL SEE IT. I WILL MAKE IT. I WILL TAKE THIS UNJUST WORLD AND I WILL BREAK IT. UNTIL I HAVE MY JUSTICE… I WILL LIVE A THOUSAND-THOUSAND-THOUSAND LIFETIMES ACROSS A THOUSAND TIMELINES ACROSS A THOUSAND REALITIES IF IT MEANS I WILL KILL YOU IN ONE OF THEM. I WILL PLACE INTO THE MINDS OF MY SPAWN THE ONE AND ONLY TRUTH THEY EVER NEED KNOW: THAT YOU MUST BE DESTROYED. I WILL CUT SHORT A THOUSAND FATES IF EVEN ONE OF THEM COULD BE YOURS. I WILL, AND NOTHING COULD EVER STOP ME.

 

I WILL TWIST THE COURSE OF EVERY FUTURE UNTIL THEY LEAD TO ONLY ONE DESTINATION: 

 

YOUR INEVITABLE DEATH.

 

 FABLED COOKING

 

The core of the Fabled Foods plugin is Fabled Cooking, which will grant players access to new food items and the recipes to make them, as well as upgrade vanilla recipes to allow them to support items of different qualities. 

 

We intend to support vanilla recipes as much as possible, including allowing you to still craft vanilla food as you normally would – you may find that using Fabled items in that process may result in foods that are strictly better than vanilla food items, but you should nearly never have something which is worse.

 

We are still in the process of finalizing the design — if you have thoughts about any of the below, leave a message!

 

Cooking Stations

 

 

The primary cooking stations we expect to have on release are the cooking pot, oven, and countertop, shown in the above image from left to right. These crafting stations can all be crafted by shift-clicking on a normal Minecraft crafting bench, which will open a custom crafting interface to allow access to basic Fabled recipes. 

 

 

Opening any of these stations (cooking pot, oven, or countertop) presents you with a general menu from which you can craft different items. When crafting from this menu, items are taken directly out of your inventory and used in recipes. Should you want more fine control of what you use in a recipe, you can open the custom craft menu with a right-click.

 

In the custom menu, you can place the items you want to use in the crafting process in the left 3x3 grid, and take the output of using them for crafting from the right 3x3 grid. This supports single recipes that produce multiple different items.

 

Depending on the quality of the ingredients you use, the resulting food item may be of a different quality, with different effects. The five icons at the bottom of the custom menu indicate to the player what the effects of different qualities of outputs are. 

 

Food Quality

 

Values shown are not final.

 

The vast majority of edible items can be produced in varying qualities, which modifies the hunger, saturation, and life they restore, alters the time they remain until perishing, and alters the duration or strength of potion effects those food items have. Certain food recipes may have a time cost associated with their crafting, particularly if they are crafted at a high level.

 

 

Although none of the food recipes for initial release will include potion effects on the level of Nexus-era alchemy, they will nonetheless offer small, meaningful benefits. An example above is the current version of coffee, allowing a brief period of speed for charging down enemies. Another example is cake, illustrated below, which can be eaten to entirely restore your hunger bar and provide an enormous amount of saturation – with the cost of giving you slowness II for five minutes!

 

 

FABLED FARMING

 

With the addition of Fabled Foods, we will also be bringing Fabled Farming, a plugin designed to add additional content to the Lord of the Craft farming experience.

 

This expands on the concept of quality by adding new versions (or ‘species’) of the Minecraft plants you are familiar with, like wheat, potatoes, and carrots. Each of these can be planted and grown just like normal Minecraft plants, however, they will now have new biome and quality-based growth modifiers.

 

 

For example, Orengrain grows 40% faster in the Plains biome compared to other biomes. In contrast, Krugernickle grows 50% slower in the Plains biome, but it grows 20% faster in the Desert biome. If you are a player who lives in a nation in the Plains, you may need to trade with – or conquer – players in a Desert biome in order to acquire a reliable supply of Krugernickle.

 

I also mentioned quality modifiers – Krugernickle, as a rare plant, grows 80% slower than Orengrain. However, as a rare plant, when used in food recipes, the product is more likely to be of rare quality.

 

Some other small points related to farming:

• Currently, bonemeal effects will be disabled on launch, until we can determine a way to integrate it into the farming system.
• Most food recipes are flexible: any plant that uses the wheat model can be used for wheat in a recipe (e.g. Krugernickle or Orengrain could be used to make Glowberry pie). 
• Keep on the look-out for other quality-of-life features we will be adding to farming, including the ability to shift-click to identify a plant’s species or trigger a growth tick.
• Upon release, only common, uncommon, and rare plants will be available to grow – Story Team members will be able to create higher-quality versions for special use in events. We plan to eventually add other qualities (epic and legendary) once balancing has been better handled.
• Let us know if we should have both biome and quality-based modifiers, or just one or the other!

 

FISHING, ANIMALS, AND BREWING

 

Beyond cooking and farming, there are three other plugins which form the core of Fabled Foods, which range from nearly complete to still in planning phases. 

 

Fishing

 

Frankly, @Adelemphii has done an excellent job, and we anticipate the only changes to her plugin for compatibility with Fabled Foods will be drop rate adjustments. 

 

Animal Husbandry

 

The quality of an animal’s drops will now depend principally on how long it has been alive, with older (more ‘mature’) animals producing higher-quality drops. In the same regard, cows, goats, or other mobs with something you can harvest from them, will have a higher-quality drop if you wait longer between harvests. 

 

You have three main ways to accelerate how quickly an animal matures: keeping it in its preferred biome, feeding it foods that it likes, and brushing it.

 

Animals will be receiving separate species, similar to plants. This controls their food and biome preferences. For example, while a Coldfur Goat may grow 20% faster in mountain biomes, and grow a day’s worth of time in response to being fed a potato, a Hotfur Goat may grow 30% faster in volcano biomes, and refuse to eat potatoes at all! 

 

Brewing

 

Basic brews and drinks (including some that can be consumed directly) will be made directly from a custom crafting bench. These can then be placed in an aging cask, which will gradually increase their quality over time (if you use higher-quality ingredients to start with, the time they need to spend in the cask will be shorter!)

 

Other Features

 

We plan on giving you the ability to reskin food models arbitrarily, so, for example, you can have a cookie that actually has the stats of a cooked chicken, but this will purely be a visual change (for roleplaying). 

 

Some features are currently undecided, and we are actively seeking feedback on these:

1. Should we have specific types of compost? If so, how should they work (e.g. make food grow faster but at reduced quality? Increase yield? Make food grow faster only in certain climates?)
2. Should descendants drop a food item when slain, and if so, what should its drop rate be, and should undead players benefit mechanically from consuming it?
3. Should you be able to walk your animals around (on a lead) to make them grow faster, 
4. Should we have setup requirements to not tick your animals off (so they need to be in open air with nearby grass, rather than in a 1x1 cube deep underground)?

 

Conclusion

 

Thank you all for reading. If you can, please provide feedback or suggestions, or answer the questions above, below so we can adjust our plans for the future.

[Islamadon 9158]

I think the varied recipe-crops over complicate the plugin significantly and detract from its potential. Would rather it just be WHEAT.

[Panashea 3325]

orc immune to rotten food when

[ferdaboy 3472]

can we please focus on fixing foodbags it keeps eating my food

[King_Kunuk 3022]

Undead no longer need to eat when

[FlemishSupremacy 6115]

Don't get me wrong, this is a very cool sounding plugin, but i'm kind of wondering if this is the right server for it. 
I'm a little worried that this is going to add more mechanical complexity to a server that really should be light on mechanics to allow people to focus on just roleplaying.
When there seems to be a way for people to get access to better pvp food through the rarities and recipes, it feels like you're incentivizing nations to put their poor people through yet another layer of necessary grind to stay competitive. Adding speed food is a bad idea, btw. In general, adding more complexity to our already complex plugin system is probably not a good idea and is counter to what the community at large has been asking for. 

 

I'm sorry for being negative about what is objectively a cool plugin if implemented on a server that was built around mechanics. 

[xo31 3979]

[Aesopian 1639]

21 minutes ago, Islamadon said:

I think the varied recipe-crops over complicate the plugin significantly and detract from its potential. Would rather it just be WHEAT.

 

I think this is reasonable, and we'll do some future polls to see specifically if players want plant or animal species, and if so what should that entail. 

[ferdaboy 3472]

It really does show that staff teams work in their own silos nowadays without speaking to one another. You're introducing PVP food that give potion effects, when past discussions have shown that players want simplified PVP, rather than adding layers of complexity to a system most players find very unenjoyable to interact with. The disconnect between tech, and staff in general and the rest of the playerbase just keeps getting wider.

 

[Aesopian 1639]

10 minutes ago, ferdaboy said:

It really does show that staff teams work in their own silos nowadays without speaking to one another. You're introducing PVP food that give potion effects, when past discussions have shown that players want simplified PVP, rather than adding layers of complexity to a system most players find very unenjoyable to interact with. The disconnect between tech, and staff in general and the rest of the playerbase just keeps getting wider.

 

 

The development decisions for this plugin were based on prior community feedback, which showed an overwhelming support for a cooking plugin. If you have specific concerns (e.g. you want food to only have saturation and hunger effects, but no potion or life healing effects), please state so, and preferably gather a few others to reply similarly so it can be added to a feedback poll.

[TaraJess 2848]

Dw tech, I think it's neat. Bless yall

[ferdaboy 3472]

8 minutes ago, Aesopian said:

 

The development decisions for this plugin were based on prior community feedback, which showed an overwhelming support for a cooking plugin. If you have specific concerns (e.g. you want food to only have saturation and hunger effects, but no potion or life healing effects), please state so, and preferably gather a few others to reply similarly so it can be added to a feedback poll.

The community feedback post you linked has many replies that clearly show most do not want PVP foods to have mechanical buffs. I think the GUI and stuff you have shown is very cool, and I like the idea of foods having different effects that have no direct impact on PVP. 

 

More speed/health/etc foods = more pvp bloat that not a lot of people really want.

[Bethinwonderland 2213]

I want to start this by saying tech team makes fantastic things, and I'm so thankful and grateful that we have the ability for them to create such unique plugins for the server. That said, if I want this stuff, why can't I make an rp item for them? This part of the plugin feels more like something I should be finding/getting on an SMP server rather than an RP server.

In my personal opinion, this doesn't improve the rp quality and only makes me feel like I have to grind more instead of rping. Not to mention the bugs that should be worked on at present, like the food bag causing my food to go MIA, or food items that should be good for two weeks going bad the second I remove them from the furnace. Before updates are made, please patch out the bugs.

 

[Gustando 1990]

[Java17 2216]

this looks way too complex for me.

 

can i still just craft bread with 3 wheat? i just want to get to my roleplay