Lgbt Rights Debate

[Eleatic 1033]

What's a Pansexual?

If yer serious, it's a fluid form of bisexuality without any concern for gender/race/watever.

[Samson Option 9652]

While I usually believe in mostly factual debates, do you not think that the topic itself lends to a more biased discussion, in one way or an other? In fact, this debate could not truly be argued with facts, and opinions are the only way to debate this topic. Would you not agree? If you think differently, I would be happy to discuss it, as I find this thread a very interesting topic.

Depends, are you seeking the ability to stay with loved ones through government manipulation or releasing the grasp that government has on what has historically been a social contract or religious one?

[LPT 771]

What's a Pansexual?

A pansexual person is someone who does not feel limited by what gender they feel attracted to.  IF I missed key points I'm sure Sky could help with the rest.

[Sneaky 189]

See, I don't really support it just because of how I was raised I'm a devote catholic. I just think it's a sin. I grow up in a community were a good 1/4 of my high school is gay. I don't really go around hating on them. I just don't support it. Not all people who dislike gay marriage are Neo nazis like most set us out to be.

[Sky 0]

We don't need to hear about your sexual orientation. Stay unbiased Zarsies and Sky ;)

OMG I AM SO BIASED!!!!!1111!!!!!one

 

;)

 

What's a Pansexual?

To answer this, I will put it simply.

 

Similar to a bisexual who can be attracted to either male or female.

 

Pansexual is more, open I guess. Where they can be attracted to any gender their partner associates with.

 

Such as being gender confused, male-to-female, female-to-male, those who don't identify themselves to a gender, etc.

 

Hope that answers your question.

[Eleatic 1033]

See, I don't really support it just because of how I was raised I'm a devote catholic. I just think it's a sin. I grow up in a community were a good 1/4 of my high school is gay. I don't really go around hating on them. I just don't support it. Not all people who dislike gay marriage are Neo nazis like most set us out to be.

No, sneaky. But I don't believe people who dislike interacial marriage are on the right side of things easier, you gotta see the POV of the minority here. I was raised a devout catholic too, and due to societal intervention and shunning, majority of young gay people leave the church. It's an issue, and a serious one. Even Pope Francis said "Who am I to judge", and I do like that.

[LPT 771]

See, I don't really support it just because of how I was raised I'm a devote catholic. I just think it's a sin. I grow up in a community were a good 1/4 of my high school is gay. I don't really go around hating on them. I just don't support it. Not all people who dislike gay marriage are Neo nazis like most set us out to be.

I respect your opinion and civilisation. I think Sky may have been wrong, this community has gotten really mature. Also 1/4 of your school is gay hmm? Can I go to said school? :P

[Drazker 307]

Even Pope Francis said "Who am I to judge", and I do like that.

According to the teachings of Catholicism, he's the word of God on earth. So.

 

Also, can you quote when he said, "who am I to judge?"

 

I will get a good kick out of that one.

[Eleatic 1033]

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/who-am-i-judge-popes-most-powerful-phrase-2013-v21984495 I very rarely identify as a catholic, but this man makes me proud to atleast hold some of those views still. Stand up fellow.

[PtahWithin 1320]

I was being serious, yes. I'm not so sure why you would need that term (I would have thought we had it covered with hetero- homo- bisexual), but it's not my business at all I guess.

 

In regards to gay marriage: I agree with pretty much everyone, government has no place to regulate what citizens do in the bedroom so long as everyone involved is perfectly safe and willing (I also support it on moral grounds). However, the 'gay culture' of dressing etc, I treat as I do the hipster, punk, metal and goth cultures: a cry for attention. No one is special because of their sexual orientation, just like no one is special because of their religion, race and so on. What makes people special is their talent, their skills and merits.

[Samson Option 9652]

Gaius, was that remark really needed? You're inciting people to get angry at you, then him. This is a thread for civil debate.

 

I do find gay culture is stupid, but, hell, we throw some nice parades.

Depends if you oblige actually. People look for an excuse to throw down insults, I've done none of that, but if someone tries to respond in a thread incitefully - you all will try and pin it on me. Its called pointing fingers, will you flame? If not, then you are fine comrade. I voiced my opinion and TMoore hasn't responded. Do not confuse obvious light gestures with flaming, you try to make the two ambigious when they aren't.

[Eleatic 1033]

I'm not going to argue further.

[Lvke 1000]

I am in complete support of LGB rights. Transgender... There is just something about it that doesn't click with me, and makes me worried. Other than that, go ahead. **** like rabbits, get married, I don't care. I support the LGB community, and I find myself not caring at all about whether someone is straight, gay, bi or lesbian. Hell, I'm totally fine about being in a room full of gay guys because I know they're just like everyone else, but with different feelings, and a touch of fab--because believe it or not, gays aren't just after your ****.

 

This is all from a completely straight guy, who has never even thought about anything in that direction. My father, a Catholic Christain is also in full support of gays being able to get married. I have some gay friends, and it's all fine. There's nothing different at all. Beliefs, raising and opinions don't change the fact that they're just people like you and me, and that other straight guy down the road--not some alien race--just because they like their own gender.

 

So, this is where I stand, and I have a variety of influences in this decision, from religious extremist grandparents to actual gay friends.

 

 

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[Samson Option 9652]

I'm not going to argue further.

You have become wiser this day.

[Lvke 1000]

Gaius, seems a bit like you're trying to say you hate gays, but don't actually want to say it...