Remove Et , Antag Feedback

[Tethras 278]

We could remove ET, but what then? It's all well and good to say that players and GM's will run events. But will they? Honestly, but staff and players are lazy. We players are lazy, since we just ask an ET to do a random event for us random that planning one. The staff, leaving it to others, or simply not taking initiative. The Gm's who do events are normally part of the ET or Antag. It's all well and good calling for a removal of ET, but will it actually have a positive change on the situation? It may force us to do events on us, own but it'll definitely put more pressure on the GM's. Considering the way things are going, I doubt they would cope. So maybe a change in the GM team before removal of the ET?

[Helbolt 129]

I read as much of the negative stuff as I could before deciding to skim over the rest of it b/c honestly it's not worth my time.

 

 

I just wanted to let whoever did the giant zombie attack thing in Huntshill the other day know I thought that was a hoot :)  Lots of fun.  Thanks!

 

Magic plugin should be fun too, I'm looking forward to having an evil arch mage alt who maybe gathers some cultists and scares off the townsfolk :)

[DecoLamb 959]

 

I dont see what the huge issue is. We don't need ET, but we don't not need them either. Its a neutral sort of situation that has no major loss or benifit either way.

 

Event Team is useful for larger events, especially those that involve any large scale destruction or anythign that will heavily effect the world. Plot-device events and the like.

 

However, you don't need them for every little thing. There's this awesome new thing brought into play now, the nameless emote. Just pop in [!] before your emote and boom, you have an area effect emote. You can host your own minor events, like for a small hunt, describing the smell of what your character is cooking, roleplaying an animal, or what have you.

 

Just obey the rules and go derp about. If its too big for you yourself, call an ET.

[Jachnun 566]

 

 

I dont see what the huge issue is. We don't need ET, but we don't not need them either. Its a neutral sort of situation that has no major loss or benifit either way.

 

Event Team is useful for larger events, especially those that involve any large scale destruction or anythign that will heavily effect the world. Plot-device events and the like.

 

However, you don't need them for every little thing. There's this awesome new thing brought into play now, the nameless emote. Just pop in [!] before your emote and boom, you have an area effect emote. You can host your own minor events, like for a small hunt, describing the smell of what your character is cooking, roleplaying an animal, or what have you.

 

Just obey the rules and go derp about. If its too big for you yourself, call an ET.

 

I don't really see if you are managing to realize the ET's role in the server. The ET consists of actors, builder, etc. The actors are the ones who are called by some member of the community to do fun events, since they are qualified actors, the events are more fun and they consist of much more quality. 

 

They are not used for every little thing unless asked by the community to do so. People can host their own events, though its not encouraged, so I am just going to state that the ET only does (in terms of events) is host events for the members of the community that explicitly ask them to do so. 

[AlmondTree 418]

ET members have too much power, way to much power.

[Jistuma 1996]

 

ET members have too much power, way to much power.

 

Could you state them? And I agree with you, heck I have disguise, vanish, fly, god, even some MS magics =P. Are those things what you mean when you say too much power?

 

And are those things reasons to remove the team? To tell the truth, even when ET members forget they have god on when PVP starts, do you know what they do? They either /damage 20, or stop, type /god, and let themselves get hit, pretty much dying. Oh, and you can't damage players with god on.

 

With vanish you can spy on people roleplaying! I don't see how that's a problem, maybe it is.

 

Fly only mostly helps for building and events, anything else and a screenshot is easy to make.

 

Disguise can lead to trolling, that's the major and only problem.

 

MS magics can be... accidentaly cast... but not many times. Same with GL and Antag plugin.

[AlmondTree 418]

Could you state them? And I agree with you, heck I have disguise, fly, god, even some MS magics =P. Are those things what you mean when you say too much power?

Exactly all those. God, fly, vanish are too easily abused. hell give me god mode too so i don't have to be bothered by mobs all the time.

[Jistuma 1996]

Exactly all those. God, fly, vanish are too easily abused. hell give me god mode too so i don't have to be bothered by mobs all the time.

Or we can continue to say to GM's and admins that mobs inside towns are BAD!

 

Escaping death by mobs I would say it's more of a perk than abuse, unless for events, in which probably that ET is helping in.

Abuse would be using god to farm mobs for minas.

 

Vanish has no possible abuse unless you count metagaming, which happens more through skype, TS, tells, standing besides a wall listening in, and alt characters, than by spying on people talking, expecially since vanish doesn't allow you to pass locked doors.

 

For fly I assume you mean bypassing walls? Unless it's a battle, the player has to roleplay before, which means he could just pass the wall like a normal player through the front gates.

 

 

All in all, ET powers are good, but it's more for convineence than power. They are nice to have, and if used to it's full extent could be abused, but they aren't, or the player wouldn't be an ET anymore.

[AlmondTree 418]

Why is it a perk? For what? Why should it be a "Reward"? ET could do what they do even without fly, vanish and godmode.

[zaezae 1098]

I bet the ET would be more fun if players actually tried to interact with them. Do you know how awkward it is when I'm the only person emoting to an event? Sorry, for that reason, I don't think these complaints hold much water. The ET isn't there to spoon feed you RP. 

[Nug 2011]

Why is it a perk? For what? Why should it be a "Reward"? ET could do what they do even without fly, vanish and godmode.

The ET lost fly once (while I was on the team) and it was horrible to get to event locations and to play certain event characters (harpies in my case). Also, they could do events without these tools but they would be pretty eh... I don't think anyone wants to see a flightless harpy or a ghost who is visible all the time. ._.

[Ned Lud 1260]

I agree with the removal of the Event Team. Never cared for the idea nor the way it has been executed since it's creation.

 

If we have GMs doing their jobs effectively, we shouldn't need an Event Team. GMs should be facilitating player-driven events themselves. I feel like the Event Team was created because many GMs couldn't be arsed to help out in the past and so they pawned everything off on all of these teams: Event Team, Guides, MAT, VAT, Lore Team. These are all just a few examples of things that the GMs used to moderate themselves. I don't see why players should be doing all the work. If they are putting in the work and are trustworthy, make them GMs and weed out those that aren't. We don't need all these teams, they are weakening our leadership and our playerbase. We need more active GMs in the trenches.

[Lark 2227]

I agree with the removal of the Event Team. Never cared for the idea nor the way it has been executed since it's creation.

 

If we have GMs doing their jobs effectively, we shouldn't need an Event Team. GMs should be facilitating player-driven events themselves. I feel like the Event Team was created because many GMs couldn't be arsed to help out in the past and so they pawned everything off on all of these teams: Event Team, Guides, MAT, VAT, Lore Team. These are all just a few examples of things that the GMs used to moderate themselves. I don't see why players should be doing all the work. If they are putting in the work and are trustworthy, make them GMs and weed out those that aren't. We don't need all these teams, they are weakening our leadership and our playerbase. We need more active GMs in the trenches.

ET are pretty much a dumbed down version of GM in a way. If ET could name items and add descriptions, they could do some modreq thhemselves, also I can't tell you how many times I was messaged asking for help that a GM should or would be doing. 'Twas weird.

[Heff 2460]

Player made events are always a blast when they happen, and are in the making. The community needs to change its mindset, start organizing their own RP. I wouldn't mind the removal of the ET as long as some GMs still ran events like Ever's Gilded Compass . I agree with what Ever said.

[Swgrclan 2682]

I agree with the removal of the Event Team. Never cared for the idea nor the way it has been executed since it's creation.

 

If we have GMs doing their jobs effectively, we shouldn't need an Event Team. GMs should be facilitating player-driven events themselves. I feel like the Event Team was created because many GMs couldn't be arsed to help out in the past and so they pawned everything off on all of these teams: Event Team, Guides, MAT, VAT, Lore Team. These are all just a few examples of things that the GMs used to moderate themselves. I don't see why players should be doing all the work. If they are putting in the work and are trustworthy, make them GMs and weed out those that aren't. We don't need all these teams, they are weakening our leadership and our playerbase. We need more active GMs in the trenches.

 

Global Moderators are simply that - moderators, not event-generators. Their staff position even demands them not to roleplay as to further focus on their duties as a moderator. There aren't many teams now, Ned, and keeping the ET doesn't damage any leadership or playerbase because all they do is provide fun for people. It really takes the load of the other staff teams' backs because we handle the event-oriented stuff and get down with the players and get to know what kind of stuff they want, whether it be PvP events, PvE or RP -- there's no harm in the ET, and while it may have seemed like a burden before, it is not now.