[Idea] Relax The Forums

[Neri 3590]

All of your warning points except for the Galahar British Empire "RP" post were from concrete rules. You posted memes and blatant OOC in RP threads even when told not to, were abusive to another player in a thread, and posted on ban reports you weren't involved in. You could easily have avoided getting those, so the burden is on you as a player rather than than the moderators simply going by the book.

 

 

That Galahar post was pure trolling, though. You really can't argue otherwise.

[Praetor 1550]

 

I see what you are trying to defend but ultimately RP isn't in grave danger or need of defending, not on the forums at least.

 

Honestly, since my last time on LoTC about a year ago I can see a huge quality drop in the forum roleplay. I commend FM's for cracking down on the OOC and IOOC (Basically, IC posts that are nothing more than OOC tweaked around to resemble an IC post.)

I hardly have to to through two threads to see a bunch of OOC posts, IOOC trolling/posts and I just don't see the point in it. If you want to chat OOC'ly or make an OOC comment, post in the OP's profile feed, PM him or go on TS or whatever floats your boat. But don't do it on the RP thread unless there is a very good reason too. If you do, expect a warn.

I'm not targeting this towards you specifically but to the whole situation in itself.

[JVQ 1719]

All of your warning points except for the Galahar British Empire "RP" post were from concrete rules. You posted memes and blatant OOC in RP threads even when told not to, were abusive to another player in a thread, and posted on ban reports you weren't involved in. You could easily have avoided getting those, so the burden is on you as a player rather than than the moderators simply going by the book.

 

 

That Galahar post was pure trolling, though. You really can't argue otherwise.

Freya, I can tell you now that I was not trolling, the ban reports I was involved in hence why I kicked up fuss. My issue is with the strictness and extent that the mods go to give you warns, when it comes down to it some people agree and some disagree, im just strongly disagree with the uptight and strict dishing out of warns

[Crayfishchris 751]

There are basic rules and guidelines which are set out. If you break the rules, you get warned. There is no way to argue against it.

 

It isn't uptight, it's pretty moderate, actually. If the staff were uptight they would've locked and warned you for this thread. Instead, you receive warnings for things which are already against the rules.

 

This applies to everyone, too.

 

No spamming, no necro-ing, no trolling, no... you know the rest. The rules of the forums are available for all to see. If you can't abide by them you eventually will get banned.

[Sky 0]

Scroll to the bottom of the page, you will see a link called "Forum Rules", click that and read it if you must. Though, I hardly see Forum Moderators actually being too strict, if anything I see them be too lax.

 

( http://www.lordofthecraft.net/topic/94192-the-new-and-improved-forum-rules/ )

[Space 2335]

I have a theory. See, over the years of LotC, FMs and GMs have gradually become less distinct in their borders. I remember a time when it said 'FM is NOT a stepping stone for GM' somewhere in the app info. But now... I can't tell what makes an FM and FM. GMs have compelte access to the forums, can dish out warnigns, can remove topics, can moderate the forums. FMs? They... Hand out warns, ermove topics, moderate the forums. Sounds familiar? Differene is that GM's get in game power. I think FMs are just really ******* bored cause they don't moderate the forums

 

:^)

 

I really agree. The censorship of the forums is so shitty. The FMs are completely trigger happy.

 

Remember JOKING DOES NOT EQUAL TROLLING

[Cyndikate 2303]

Well our forums are a mess now since many are quick to flame, be assholes and trolls. The FMs are doing what they're supposed to do and now you guys want the FMs to be nicer?

They are doing their jobs. Are you serious?

It's either FMs start handing our warns and bans to people breaking the rules, or we end up with the forums turning into a huge mess.

The FMs are fine. In fact, they need to step up even further. They could learn a thing or two about Arik.

Make up your minds people. If you guys don't like it, either follow the rules or don't come on the forums. Don't complain when you step out of line and get warned.

[Helbolt 129]

FM's seem very forgiving to me considering some of the responses I see posted IC.  Seven paragraph posts that someone spent alot of time on are responded to with two sentence jokes.  I think many of us, were we FM's, would hand out far more warns for "random peasants", clearly OOC motivated posts / hatred, and attempts at jokes by people who long deeply for the acceptance of their peers by being funny.

[Telanir 6975]

If you have a problem let an admin know privately. :)

[Kathael 10]

If you have a problem let an admin know privately. :)

I think he said that he tried doing that, and because there was no answer he posted this. And I came back a little bit ago, so I don't really have an opinion about the FM's.

[Telanir 6975]

I think he said that he tried doing that, and because there was no answer he posted this. And I came back a little bit ago, so I don't really have an opinion about the FM's.

 

You'd have to try pretty hard to do all the wrong things not to get a response. :o

 

I think it's pretty straightforward, if you have a serious suggestion you should follow through based on your own incentive. If one admin isn't responding or is away it's not anyone else but your own fault you didn't follow through with other admins or got some GM's to pay attention to your issue(s).

 

I can tell you that staff take those kinds of people who PM them and explain their ideas thoroughly much more seriously than those who post feedback on the public forums. No, garnering reputation points from forum lurkers doesn't make your opinion powerful.

 

I don't have anything against this poster but I do want to make an example of this topic. There is a pretty evident problem with one staff member here, I suggest contacting them personally and approach the situation very respectfully and neutrally. Contacting the lore admin when Tythus is the FM admin is a questionable approach, but perhaps you would see why your query didn't receive a response. (he may have also simply missed it).

 

 

Moved to Support & Assistance forum.

[JVQ 1719]

You'd have to try pretty hard to do all the wrong things not to get a response. :o

 

I think it's pretty straightforward, if you have a serious suggestion you should follow through based on your own incentive. If one admin isn't responding or is away it's not anyone else but your own fault you didn't follow through with other admins or got some GM's to pay attention to your issue(s).

 

I can tell you that staff take those kinds of people who PM them and explain their ideas thoroughly much more seriously than those who post feedback on the public forums. No, garnering reputation points from forum lurkers doesn't make your opinion powerful.

 

I don't have anything against this poster but I do want to make an example of this topic. There is a pretty evident problem with one staff member here, I suggest contacting them personally and approach the situation very respectfully and neutrally. Contacting the lore admin when Tythus is the FM admin is a questionable approach, but perhaps you would see why your query didn't receive a response. (he may have also simply missed it).

 

[Telanir 6975]

-snip-

 

 

You'd have to try pretty hard to do all the wrong things not to get a response. :o

 

I think it's pretty straightforward, if you have a serious suggestion you should follow through based on your own incentive. If one admin isn't responding or is away it's not anyone else but your own fault you didn't follow through with other admins or got some GM's to pay attention to your issue(s).

 

I can tell you that staff take those kinds of people who PM them and explain their ideas thoroughly much more seriously than those who post feedback on the public forums. No, garnering reputation points from forum lurkers doesn't make your opinion powerful.

 

I don't have anything against this poster but I do want to make an example of this topic. There is a pretty evident problem with one staff member here, I suggest contacting them personally and approach the situation very respectfully and neutrally. Contacting the lore admin when Tythus is the FM admin is a questionable approach, but perhaps you would see why your query didn't receive a response. (he may have also simply missed it).

[Avella of Thess 6]

I dunno, maybe it's just me... but I honestly feel like a lot of people on LOTC don't know what "roleplay" really means. I mean, yes, it is a game. But to just say "get over it, it's just a game"... it doesn't work, you know?

 

To me, there is a difference between "a role-playing game" and "a game in which you role-play". A role-playing game, or an RPG, is where you take on the role of a character in a predesigned course. There are a few choices that allow you to change, and sometimes it allows a lot of change, but the world and the story are generally focused around you and your character. There is no changes in the outside world mentioned that your character is not involved in.

 

A game in which you role-play, though, I find to be quite different. It is not focused on you, or on your enjoyment, but instead is focused on the entire storyline. There is no main character in this, but a lot of side characters telling their own story to make a whole and to make it interesting and unique and very very real. People don't usually play these games to have lots of money, or friends, or a nice house. The people who enjoy these kinds of games are those who like to see a story emerge from a lot of people living pretend lives. 

 

I think that a lot of the problem here on LOTC is that people have begun to treat it more as an RPG instead of an RPW (Role-playing World). They think selfishly, and want the items and gold and power because they want those things, not because it would make the storyline more interesting. This is a world where people can enjoy the story and be able to say: I was involved in that. That's the appeal. 

 

It's just... something I thought about...

[Lago 2572]

Quite to the contrary, I'd say ramp up the tightness of moderation. For when people want to vent and be unpleasant we've got Skype. The forums, however, are the face of the server. Let's keep 'em clean. Be civil and no FM will take issue with you.