Rivk Zavadsky 700 Share Posted March 10, 2015 When the White Rose ruled Oren and the worst definetly Franz Carrion he was filthy and only lasted for a week 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heff 2460 Share Posted March 10, 2015 knox213 AVE AVE AVE AVE or mog worst: sorry weaboowarrior but possibly william Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draeris 3124 Share Posted March 10, 2015 The reign of Arkantos seemed pretty productive and fair, but I would say that Franz was pretty bad from what I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ivory 4547 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It's very hard to determine who was the best. It depends on what type of roleplay you enjoy the most, and the events that took place under a certain leader's leadership. If you like feudal roleplay, with many different dynasty's competing for prestige and piety, perhaps you enjoyed the reign of Godfrey or Horen. If you liked a centralized Oren with specific roleplay hubs, with a fairly Raevir-dominated "dirty/jolly" roleplaying environment, perhaps you enjoyed the reign of Siegmund or Heinrik. If you enjoyed a strongly militant roleplay environment, with a bit of imperialism mixed it, perhaps you favored the reign of the Chivays. It's all on the enjoyment of a type of roleplay. I don't necessarily think rulers like Silus or Franz were bad rulers, certainly they had some potential, but sometimes ruling is cut-short by certain events. I for one know for a fact that had Franz not made the fatal mistake of establishing an anti-pope, I am certain that his reign would have been an excellent one. Aleksander, when he took leadership, had barely a chance to withstand the huge enemies that Oren had gained, so I do not blame him much for his loss. I will keep who I believe to have been the "worst" Orenian leader private out-of-character, however my pocket-guide certainly outlines the ups and downs of some leaders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesmellypocket 1859 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Until there is an emperor with a Byzantine name, there will be no best emperor. Ray Comfort was the best emperor. IF EEEVLOUTION SEYS WEE CUM FRUM MOKEIS Y OUR THEIR STILL MONEKIS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
501warhead 1796 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Best was Enor Sheffield withought a doubt, it takes a true King to coup twice and eat his wife infront of his subjects. That was Edmund you nutcase. Edmund Sheffield (TheRedNinja) not Enor, who was his son (who also managed to cut Asulon in half because he was bad at world edit). Enor didn't eat his wife, he just broke the nation up into Hanseti, Renatus, and Salvus. (after giving the kingdom to Gaius which caused it) I should edit this in: I know Edmund ate his wife. I'm PRETTY certain Enor did nothing of the sort, no idea about Coups though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heff 2460 Share Posted March 10, 2015 That was Edmund you nutcase. Edmund Sheffield (TheRedNinja) not Enor, who was his son (who also managed to cut Asulon in half because he was bad at world edit). Enor didn't eat his wife, he just broke the nation up into Hanseti, Renatus, and Salvus. (after giving the kingdom to Gaius which caused it) I should edit this in: I know Edmund ate his wife. I'm PRETTY certain Enor did nothing of the sort, no idea about Coups though. inb4 phoenix revolution and departure of halflings best orenina leader was either kip tooke or petyr brandybuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiebe 2493 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Trying to maneuver against Mog on Asulon was a pain in my ass. Ill never forget the 120 human insta army popping up with a hour notice lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeaLulu 1783 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I really miss the nobility-RP and culture that was back in the old days of Asulon and Anthos under Mog. and not just cause I was Empress. It was a nice environment for roleplay I guess? but that wasn't entirely because of Mog, it was partially due to the different groups and player bases like WR and flays and teutons and etc. idk. worst ruler was all the sheffields best was pampo perea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knox213 10 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Many of Oren's leaders were highly, highly capable. Some just lacked the power to actually fulfill the task at hand. I don't think its fair to say who was best and who was the worst. Each leader did something different which has impacted LOTC since their rule. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunner 775 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I enjoyed Mogroka's Empire. Some of my fondest memories of LotC was in late 2.0/3.0 during his regime, and he ruled extremely well in my opinion. I would honestly give anything to return to those times, as it was just satisfying seeing a tyrant rise to power in the geopolitical world of Anthos. Honestly, the conflicts such as the Hanseti v Blackmont, Salvus martial law and the Dwarven Wars that led to the Exodus were just brilliant, and is a prime example of Human History. It was just a great experience being a White Rose soldier in those days, and its unfortunate that this experience is non-existent anymore. the worst was ark fug that guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark 2835 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I enjoyed Mogroka's Empire. Some of my fondest memories of LotC was in late 2.0/3.0 during his regime, and he ruled extremely well in my opinion. I would honestly give anything to return to those times, as it was just satisfying seeing a tyrant rise to power in the geopolitical world of Anthos. Honestly, the conflicts such as the Hanseti v Blackmont, Salvus martial law and the Dwarven Wars that led to the Exodus were just brilliant, and is a prime example of Human History. It was just a great experience being a White Rose soldier in those days, and its unfortunate that this experience is non-existent anymore. the worst was ark fug that guy I enjoyed Mogroka's Empire. Some of my fondest memories of LotC was in late 2.0/3.0 during his regime, and he ruled extremely well in my opinion. I would honestly give anything to return to those times, as it was just satisfying seeing a tyrant rise to power in the geopolitical world of Anthos. Honestly, the conflicts such as the Hanseti v Blackmont, Salvus martial law and the Dwarven Wars that led to the Exodus were just brilliant, and is a prime example of Human History. It was just a great experience being a White Rose soldier in those days, and its unfortunate that this experience is non-existent anymore. the worst was ark fug that guy i hope your mom thinks you watch cartoon porn 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esterlen 4499 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I would say that Franz was pretty bad from what I know. -King-President-elect Christopher de Rosaen, the Mighty President of Festina, Vanquisher of Oren, the Just and Merciless, the Arbitrary and Merciful, the Slayer of Gurbanguly Bey, Catamite of Alras, Wheelwright of Jan van Darvei, Archon of the Pentarch Saint's Church, Hater of Empires, Conqueror of the Crow and Archduke of Misspessimistic. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetosion 2062 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think fire hits the nail on the head. Depending on your personal preferences and your character's cultural group, the decision of who is best or worst ruler is incredibly subjective. I personally preferred the reigns of Godfrey/Horen V and Chivay, because they had solid high culture, noble RP, national pride, lots of cool ass culture posts with language and history and stuff for new players, I enjoyed the high medieval tradition and culture going on. Siegmund and Heinrik's reign were both stable and revolutionary in their own rights, but they focused more on recovering from the Exodus and stabilizing humanity and responding to threats than building on existing stability/culture like late-Godfrey or the high-imperial revival of Chivay (which, during Peter's reign, ran like a well-oiled machine with White Rose discipline, was very satisfying from a privy perspective). I enjoyed the First Empire culture the most, I think, but every dynasty has had its flaws and challenges (First Empire had terribly slothful and ineffective nobility, only sustained by privy and Mog's manipultions of the lords) and each king was responding to their own set of trials with their own home culture further shaping their governance. I don't think Franz, William, or Aleksander were the worst either. Franz had potential, but made a poor decision with the anti-pontiff that cost him the crown. Aleksander was an excellent Duke of Karovia, as far as I'm aware, but was thrust into a fragmented state and did the best he could. William III took the throne the week after the Exodus, and any man would have faltered in that situation. I think our memory of kings is as much shaped by the energy of the time as their actual actions as ruler, and one also has to take into account the effectiveness of privies, tensions within the state, etc. We all need to contribute positively to Oren, learn from our mistakes, and become the change we wish to see (!!!), and Vydra's may become the best remembered reign in the contemporary histories. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avacyn 1712 Share Posted March 11, 2015 raptor14v sucked Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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