Porko 397 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Real shame to see the Ark hate, he would have been a great leader if circumstances weren't what they were. He did amazing in Karovia. For those who don't remember, Karovia was #2 in population behind Petrus, more populace than elfia or dwarfia or orcia. Silly to think he wouldn't do just as great otherwise, you know, not inheriting a ****-storm in a ****-storm. Not fair to make judgement just on IC actions/achievements. I wasn't around for William III's reign so I can't say I can draw any comparison. It's okay Ark, you would've been a good king. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark 2835 Share Posted March 30, 2015 -shrug- what is done is done, I can only deal with what I have now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craotor 617 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Olivier the savoy is the worst withought a doubt. SAVOYARD OREN IS A ROGUE STATE!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heff 2460 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Olivier the savoy is the worst withought a doubt. SAVOYARD OREN IS A ROGUE STATE!! ! stop the secret raevir genocide 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjmate 1270 Share Posted March 31, 2015 If I drop all personal bias, which is hard... Best was Mog on Horen. I was introduced to lotc with him in power, and the noble roleplay was fabulous. I miss Silverblade balls and all of the small factions like the Greens, the Valois, the Streltsi, Teutons, Flays etc. Worst was whoever ran Oren during the Fringe. I don't know who that was, is how sad it was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knox213 10 Share Posted April 1, 2015 If I drop all personal bias, which is hard... Best was Mog on Horen. I was introduced to lotc with him in power, and the noble roleplay was fabulous. I miss Silverblade balls and all of the small factions like the Greens, the Valois, the Streltsi, Teutons, Flays etc. Worst was whoever ran Oren during the Fringe. I don't know who that was, is how sad it was. There was like, 4 kings during the fringe. me being the first franz being the second sirsnowman being the "regent" third Peter Chivay being the fourth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted April 1, 2015 In the scheme of things the Sheffields were probably the worst. You have one cannibalizing his wife and the other one handing over the crown to one of Oren's greatest enemies/traitors at the time while his kingdom is in shambles and the last true town within it was run by a handful of knights in a keep that was smaller than some of the houses in Petrus nowadays. Enor's knighting ceremony for my guy was on the side of the road while preparing to build Galahar, didn't even use a sword to dub him. Grr, my immersion, grr. That probably establishes how apathetic of a leader he was though. His actions lead to the last of his few loyal men making the Phoenix rebellion and splintering Oren into Renatus, Hanseti and Salvus. Although Hanseti was established before this, to be fair, but Gaius being made king for a short while technically united it all briefly. The Sheffields crippled the humans for a long while and the recovery time was quite a bit longer compared to other slumps in human history. Oren nearly turned into a strange democratic monarchy after Edmund Sheffield died. A few different people campaigned for king and everyone in the kingdom started campaigning and voting for different kings until Enor came along. No one liked him coming in like that but no one cared enough to stop him. Enor without a doubt was the worst king. He managed to be one of the only kings in human history that was disliked by his subjects and then he destroyed Oren by handing the kingdom to its greatest enemy. Why did he do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicWhaleShark 2488 Share Posted April 1, 2015 James knows how it is. All the new blood thinks Ark did badly. Phew, they have no idea. Enor was only a king by the fact that his skin had a crown. He did not regulate or rule anything, the knights (Braxis being head honcho) were the ones that actually governed Galahar - the main settlement that was under Enor's rule at the time. It was objectively terrible and a total clusterfuck, I still liked the RP day to day a lot though. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted April 1, 2015 James knows how it is. All the new blood thinks Ark did badly. Phew, they have no idea. Enor was only a king by the fact that his skin had a crown. He did not regulate or rule anything, the knights (Braxis being head honcho) were the ones that actually governed Galahar - the main settlement that was under Enor's rule at the time. It was terrible and a total clusterfuck, I still liked the RP day to day a lot though. Al'khazar was still there for a lot of Enor's time, but he still didn't govern anything. The military ran itself and the council handled most other things like taxation, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephistophelian 977 Share Posted April 1, 2015 The joke here is that we need to choose a person who was the best, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo 1852 Share Posted April 3, 2015 worst leader was olivier de savoie 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Option 9652 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Ya'll motherf*ckers chose to rebel when Enor gave me the crown, but sit here and chastise him years later :( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FancyPants 101 Share Posted April 6, 2015 savoyard oren is a rogue state Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
argonian 14254 Share Posted April 6, 2015 Ya'll motherf*ckers chose to rebel when Enor gave me the crown, but sit here and chastise him years later :(That's because you had attacked Oren several times. Hanseti was Oren's greatest enemy. It'd have been like handing the crown to the Undead. That decision alone would make him a terrible king. Enor had tons of other faults too including not actually ruling his kingdom and making his people hate him through his apathy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aetosion 2062 Share Posted April 7, 2015 So what does all of this lead us to conclude? What kinds of governments and leaders are most effective and most popular? What failings should future and present leaders at every level of feudal administration avoid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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