Shar'ku/jenspelao 410 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Your characters were being purposefully aggressive and were known hostiles. That essentially baiting for WC reason. What do you expect from orcs, to stand still in their camps smoking cactus green? Tribute has been demanded since aegis thats how orcs work, i dont know what you expect, You dont pay tribute, you insult orcs, your people murder the leader and the military leader when they are doing a diplomatic stuff, dont expect orcs to stand still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuHanXianShi14 0 Share Posted March 23, 2015 You dont pay tribute, you insult orcs, your people murder the leader and the military leader when they are doing a diplomatic stuff, Again, all orcs who were there when we killed the Rex were killed, Hu-din was not there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1535 Share Posted March 23, 2015 What do you expect from orcs, to stand still in their camps smoking cactus green? Tribute has been demanded since aegis thats how orcs work, i dont know what you expect, You dont pay tribute, you insult orcs, your people murder the leader and the military leader when they are doing a diplomatic stuff, dont expect orcs to stand still.Warclaims still require a valid reason (As well as an adjacent region). Killing raiders is hardly that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom_Whiteman 949 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Baiting? We're Orcs, a WAR nation. I'm not meaning to sound aggressive, but in our lore we aren't some sweet talkers who let a murder slip by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1535 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Baiting? We're Orcs, a WAR nation. I'm not meaning to sound aggressive, but in our lore we aren't some sweet talkers who let a murder slip by.As I said - War Rules. The first one literally states that a valid reason is needed. Killing a known slaver and raider who's walking around a city talking about raiding it is hardly just cause for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfiazz 878 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The adjacent region is that of the Dwarves / Snow Elves, apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shar'ku/jenspelao 410 Author Share Posted March 23, 2015 Warclaims still require a valid reason (As well as an adjacent region). Killing raiders is hardly that. Snow elves, Dwarves Already accepted military passage. I'm dealing with more passages in rp but those 2 nations are enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuHanXianShi14 0 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I was in the war rules chat, lol. The "YOU NEED A GOOD REASON TO DECLARE WAR" rule was born to stop situations exactly like this, bait with raids, declare war on nation for fighting off raiders. The only reason that might be legit would be the killing of the rex, which unless one of the elves who were there went to tell the Orcs, you dont know about ICly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1535 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Snow elves, Dwarves Already accepted military passage. I'm dealing with more passages in rp but those 2 nations are enough.Neither of which connect to Fiandria, which is separated from those areas by the Wanderwyn forests.I was given links to a few posts where it was literally stated that Orcs are just looking to find a new war.https://www.lordofthecraft.net/topic/123631-empathy/page-15#entry1190665https://www.lordofthecraft.net/topic/123631-empathy/page-15#entry1190668https://www.lordofthecraft.net/topic/123631-empathy/page-16#entry1190677https://www.lordofthecraft.net/topic/123631-empathy/page-16#entry1190681 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supremacy 3357 Share Posted March 23, 2015 The high elves aren't going to stop orcs going to murder wood elves. So they have a connection through Fiandria, Haelun'or's territory. Something to do with helping Oren in their skirmish? 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfiazz 878 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Regardless of whether or not Orcs know of the Rex's and Targoth's demise, there is still the issue that your leadership insulted, threatened, and attempted to kill a party that had only come to collect tribute, not to perform a raid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1535 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Regardless of whether or not Orcs know of the Rex's and Targoth's demise, there is still the issue that your leadership insulted, threatened, and attempted to kill a party that had only come to collect tribute, not to perform a raid.How is walking into a city demanding goods not a raid? You're literally grasping for a reason to Warclaim us (Read the links I posted where you admit exactly that). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfiazz 878 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Because the Orcs had already had a tribute system set up with the Wood Elves? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1535 Share Posted March 23, 2015 Because the Orcs had already had a tribute system set up with the Wood Elves?And when was this established? With whom? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellfiazz 878 Share Posted March 23, 2015 With Tristin Tresery, a while back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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