Land Allocation (Freebuild vs Charter) [Your View]

[ARCHITECUS 4788]

57 minutes ago, Hobbs_Burrows said:

 

I’ll bring discussion to your pictures and points here.

The Jayaman building could, and would be better off in a city, which Sofetios is perfectly capable of doing. He gets a place every map and goes inactive with it, like the giant shop he has in Carolustadt. The flower autoshop is fine, but I’ve never seen him rp in there.

Don’t brandish your ents as an example of “good” freebuild. You gave people a lot of grief over them.

The desert temple is a semi-OOC structure similar to the GM graveyards. Some implementation of it will always come about.

Holm is a place that would have gotten a successful charter.

Belvitz exists because staff wouldn’t allow Human nation placement on the spot it is at, explicitly because the area is freebuild. Semicompetent people seized the location, then lost it, and then the settlement was revitalized again by Adria. Now it is declining again. Having the imperial capital there would have been great, instead of the constant freebuild sprawl and swap.

And I have no idea what Halsworthy is, I don’t know of anyone ever living there.

[drfate786 1690]

3 minutes ago, Unwillingly said:

Freebuild wouldn't be so bad if players actually knew how to build nice looking structures. 

 

Charters ensure the build will actually be used and NOT look like ****. Please just add charters. Its the only good option.

You are comparing a multiplayer role-play server to a singleplayer vanilla world.

 

Again, it HAS to be done in such a way that it doesn’t cater to nations. Nations can claim land reserved for charters either, it has to be done so that one nation doesn’t control the entire map without having an actual RP AND mechanical reason to.

[Hobbs_Burrows 497]

20 minutes ago, pbuh said:

I’ll bring discussion to your pictures and points here.

The Jayaman building could, and would be better off in a city, which Sofetios is perfectly capable of doing. He gets a place every map and goes inactive with it, like the giant shop he has in Carolustadt. The flower autoshop is fine, but I’ve never seen him rp in there.

 Don’t brandish your ents as an example of “good” freebuild. You gave people a lot of grief over them.

The desert temple is a semi-OOC structure similar to the GM graveyards. Some implementation of it will always come about.

Holm is a place that would have gotten a successful charter.

Belvitz exists because staff wouldn’t allow Human nation placement on the spot it is at, explicitly because the area is freebuild. Semicompetent people seized the location, then lost it, and then the settlement was revitalized again by Adria. Now it is declining again. Having the imperial capital there would have been great, instead of the constant freebuild sprawl and swap.

And I have no idea what Halsworthy is, I don’t know of anyone ever living there.

 

And this is an argument for why the map should have a region placed over it?  And people should have to go on the forums and fill in OOC paperwork just to be considered for the privilege of being allowed to interact with the world?

 

Where are the glass houses? Where are the sand penises we are always promised? People generally take pride in their creations on this server, and the things they create are an absolute credit to Lord of the Craft. Denying them the basic freedom to play the server is pointlessly selfish.

[Archipelego 2188]

freebuild is good. but charters are also good. so just have a bit of freebuild on the fringe of everything, binga bada boom all the people who dont wanna look at ugly builds dont need to because its out in the wastes

[Noer 577]

39 minutes ago, Hobbs_Burrows said:

 

And this is an argument for why the map should have a region placed over it?  And people should have to go on the forums and fill in OOC paperwork just to be considered for the privilege of being allowed to interact with the world?

 

Where are the glass houses? Where are the sand penises we are always promised? People generally take pride in their creations on this server, and the things they create are an absolute credit to Lord of the Craft. Denying them the basic freedom to play the server is pointlessly selfish.

 

Idk about you but I see 3-4 wooden penises just to the side of Belvitz every day....

[Archbishop 1784]

3 hours ago, Hiebe said:

Cause all we heard was complaints from nations. We have many many many spots with all the same general travail distance from spawn with nothing in the way for new players. No more road side cities strangling the roads, open fair travel.

Okay, I am asking why they are being forced. If they want to be close to ct in this special circle next to other nations they can be, but if they do not want to be why are you forcing them?

[Wurfv 101]

No freebuild.

[Hiebe 2493]

27 minutes ago, ImperialTortoise said:

Okay, I am asking why they are being forced. If they want to be close to ct in this special circle next to other nations they can be, but if they do not want to be why are you forcing them?

Would you rather be 4k from spawn in the middle of nowhere where it takes 10 mins to get there? If you do please let me know.

 

All the current spots were picked to make it all equal distances from spawn and each other

[Pogmeister 91]

Make a hybrid option but make it a level select multiple answers. Good job

[ARCHITECUS 4788]

1 hour ago, Hobbs_Burrows said:

 

And this is an argument for why the map should have a region placed over it?  And people should have to go on the forums and fill in OOC paperwork just to be considered for the privilege of being allowed to interact with the world?

Yes. Yes.

 

1 hour ago, Hobbs_Burrows said:

Where are the glass houses? Where are the sand penises we are always promised? People generally take pride in their creations on this server, and the things they create are an absolute credit to Lord of the Craft. Denying them the basic freedom to play the server is pointlessly selfish.

At the beginning of the map, the first build a player would see on the way South was an Edo Japanese building serving as a sushi restaurant.

Freebuild is being pushed to the sidelines of the map and there’s nothing you can do about it.

[Archbishop 1784]

Dalek, literally everything you have built in freebuild has been a landscar tbh, remember that absolutely appalling sandstone village you made, I sure do.

[NotEvilAtAll 10906]

1 hour ago, ImperialTortoise said:

Dalek, literally everything you have built in freebuild has been a landscar tbh, remember that absolutely appalling sandstone village you made, I sure do.

I actually like Dalek’s builds. He basically built all of Old Dunshire, planted all of Old Dunshire Forest around Old Dunshire, made the ent-creatures within them, and made that little hut next to the lake there. As for Cantos, I’ll admit that that particular build was sub-par, but I still enjoyed exploring it. That supposedly terrible sandstone village has a lot more charm than many other places, despite being dead as a doornail and half-finished.

 

 

[ARCHITECUS 4788]

3 minutes ago, NotEvilAtAll said:

I actually like Dalek’s builds. He basically built all of Old Dunshire, planted all of Old Dunshire Forest around Old Dunshire, made the ent-creatures within them, and made that little hut next to the lake there. As for Cantos, I’ll admit that that particular build was sub-par, but I still enjoyed exploring it. That supposedly terrible sandstone village has a lot more charm than many other places, despite being dead as a doornail and half-finished.

 

 

It may have looked awful, had no one roleplay in it, and never got finished, but at least it possessed the entirely subjective quality of charm.

[Lsuvsfar 255]

5 hours ago, Hobbs_Burrows said:

You may make the argument that these could have been built even if there was a region over the map. Really? The ents never would have been built, Jayamen would  never have obtained a charter by himself. Even the freebuild towns and cities would have been at the whim and discretion of individuals who could deny them and tell them to go elsewhere.

As one of the main founders of Halsworthy, I will confirm that Halsworthy probably would have never gotten a charter if we had the old land system. Coming onto this map, we had maybe 6-8 active people from last map, which I only had because I lucked my way into owning a region near the wood elf boat. If you challenged a player to start from scratch, with no land or homes to offer, and only to get people by offering them jobs, roleplaying in a town that they didn’t own, I don’t know that anyone could do it.

 

Sure, you could do what most people under that charter system and get all your friends to sign it, knowing that they’ll never actually roleplay there, but doesn’t that just defeat what the charter system is supposed to accomplish?

[GodEmperorFlam 3447]

Pure freebuild ?