10.0 Food Core 1.0.0

[colovian fur 8360]

Lord of the waste your time as much as possible and do everything but role play

 

Remove staff god mode and teleporting and you’ll see how fast this gets removed 

[Cally 1080]

common LoTC devs hating their players L. I dont see what this improves for new map if "famines" cant be a thing and affect real war. Its just stupid and a waste of time. Put more efforts into plugins that are interesting and add something to our experience other than struggle. Miss when tech team actually listened to their player base. Take a vote right now, 75% or more of LoTCers DO NOT WANT THIS.

 

Also the cheat code is just getting onto staff so you can spend 90% of your time in godmode anyway. they dont care about things that dont affect them, and implement them anyway.

 

no hate to Cheez, I know this wasnt his choice to do. But the amount of admins that pushed for this is terrible and a testament to their endless desire to see us struggle time and time again. do better.

-1

[DrFong 226]

When I was a lad, all we had was wheat and pig meat.

 

Last map, food was so boring. Infinite cooked potatoes from nowhere don't add to RP. Maybe this will help? Starvation RP? Food hoarding RP? 

 

I am excited to see how this will evolve!

 

Craftable Mush-Burger asap please!

[Sarven 2619]

I think this is a pretty cool feature, interested to see how it goes, has a few things that I think should be addressed, with perhaps players being able to make some form of alchemy or other such to keep food fresh, cooking food that is about to go back to extend its shelf life, etc

But this seems neat

[indiana105 5126]

if xarkly is right i invite any one of the admins to grind perishable steak for a warclaim while being raided on cooldown by gooners

 

how is “hiding behind walls” a problem when raid ladders exist to just negate them lol. every nation last map was destroyed by a coalition, pvp still dominates everything else. you don’t need to make it even more tedious than it already is. so braindead 

[PrinceJose270 1211]

Outside of reading all the complants about this, I still think its good that @Cheezboi9 was willing to take the initive in all of this. Rather then having some half-baked and unfinished plugin like we did in Almaris where A LOT of crafting required "energizing potions". This is certainly a step that treads of rough terrain when touched upon lotc based on past experiances. However that shouldnt destroy the concept itself.

For the people who say it wont promote RP, there are still people out there that rather sprint around a damn fountain then to do actual RP. This allows communities to actually look at food n go. "Huh, maybe I should have some challange to get food." Rather then having 600 million chests full of steak that collects dust.


Lastly,
 

12 hours ago, Cheezboi9 said:

 

The Future

FoodCore itself will get some more feature updates after launch, including the ability to change the color of the bag and rename it.

 

There are many more additions to come for food as a whole. FabledFoods is fabled to release sometime after launch, and along with it will be a new overhaul to Animal Husbandry, Farming, Cooking, and even Brewing.

 

Keep an open mind, the future of LoTC plugins look great

 

 

Literally mentioned to keep an open mind to the thought, Maybe they will add salt and preserving barrels to store large amount of food, or be able to make custom cooking that enhances some food so RP food might actually have a benifit, or maybe drinks will also aid in food bars. Its potental, and if its a flop it wouldnt be the first time staff revert a plug in. It's an attempt that has more leeway and the potental for community feedback beyond "I dont like this delete please." 

So Cheez, I do hope the plugin works well. if you need ideas thrown your way hit me up!

[Cheese 8881]

refrigerators aren’t tech locked right 

[Travisty 1020]

I think there’d be less negative feedback had the expiration plug-in not just be one unnecessary thing to grind. It makes farming more necessary, sure, but it provides nothing else 🤷‍♂️ why not release mechanics that make farming more fun (tools, more crops, literally anything) or give us a cooking plug in similar to the many mods that already exist to that kind of thing (Farmer’s Delight, Cooking for Blockheads…) might as well give chef rp a boost if you’ll make their stock expire or worthless if nerfed (no one is wasting mina on food as satiable as a cookie + it’ll add more variety to those rp bakeries/restaurants). I mean we should at least be able to make foods that will last longer, like jerky, preserves, dried fruits, etc at least it’d provide more recipes

[Coolcod77 613]

 

Does all food perish at the same rate currently?

 

I'll just repeat what some have said and say this would be fine if via a cooking plugin it was possible to salt or smoke meat, use sugar, honey and other preservatives to ensure that food lasts longer. Without any of this it just further extends grinding with no rewards. I don't hate it as long as armour and weapon costs have been halved to make PVP grinding less painful.

 

 

[Cheese 8881]

6 hours ago, monkeypoacher said:

community team members certainly should not get god mode. what do you even do with it?

What does any staff member do it with…. no team NEEDS god mode in order to play the server. Invisibility/fly/tp pex is different from just sitting around invincible to damage, and that’s not even to mention most staff members aren’t doing their jobs every time we log on. We’re volunteers who help out when we see someone who needs it, but the majority of the time we’re regular players, not wage slaves

[PrinceJose270 1211]

17 minutes ago, Travisty said:

I think there’d be less negative feedback had the expiration plug-in not just be one unnecessary thing to grind. It makes farming more necessary, sure, but it provides nothing else 🤷‍♂️ why not release mechanics that make farming more fun (tools, more crops, literally anything) or give us a cooking plug in similar to the many mods that already exist to that kind of thing (Farmer’s Delight, Cooking for Blockheads…) might as well give chef rp a boost if you’ll make their stock expire or worthless if nerfed (no one is wasting mina on food as satiable as a cookie + it’ll add more variety to those rp bakeries/restaurants). I mean we should at least be able to make foods that will last longer, like jerky, preserves, dried fruits, etc at least it’d provide more recipes

That be interesting, Maybe Food/crop quality would exist (I e kinda like stardew) to get better satuation or effects from a "Cooking" plugin. but it does seem they plan to overhaul the stuff. Fruits beyond apple and pumpkin would be fun. But If cheez is the only one running it. think its fair to give the man a bit of time. Coding is certainly no snap of the fingers after all

 

[winterblood 11181]

7 minutes ago, Travisty said:

I think there’d be less negative feedback had the expiration plug-in not just be one unnecessary thing to grind. It makes farming more necessary, sure, but it provides nothing else 🤷‍♂️ why not release mechanics that make farming more fun (tools, more crops, literally anything) or give us a cooking plug in similar to the many mods that already exist to that kind of thing (Farmer’s Delight, Cooking for Blockheads…) might as well give chef rp a boost if you’ll make their stock expire or worthless if nerfed (no one is wasting mina on food as satiable as a cookie + it’ll add more variety to those rp bakeries/restaurants). I mean we should at least be able to make foods that will last longer, like jerky, preserves, dried fruits, etc at least it’d provide more recipes

 

this existed with nexus, as someone else mentioned earlier in the comments - its what made food expiration less of a pain, because it was TIED to numerous other things in nexus to make it less of a pain.  farming rp and chef rp also wasn't improved because of these features, it just led to more mechanical grinding for pvp

 

incredibly disappointing that certain admins have endlessly pushed for this to be a thing, despite majority of players and other staff members being forwardly against it

 

this is also whats kept us locked in temp map for over a month apparently, new map wont come until plugins are finished - which weren't worked on until the start of temp map.  just makes it even worse and more of a bother

 

also why does this put MORE dependency on leather?  a product already grinded endlessly for due to pvp

 

no hate on cheez, because this very clearly wasn't their decision to implement this

 

 

[Lirinya 4021]

6 hours ago, JustMeMorgan said:

 

I'll ask the same question again to you, if mechanical restrictions take the fun away should we just put everyone in god mode till they get into pvp?

 

I know this wasn't aimed at me, and I don't want to take away from the actual discussion at hand: A new plugin which overall seems really interesting aside from the decay matter. As to the question above? Yes, absolutely.

 

There's no use for mechanical hunger aside from sprinting, which could be overhauled in some capacity to be a stamina bar or something.

There's no use for mechanical health outside of PVP, since there are no hostile mobs, so the use of food to recover health is also pointless. Fall damage is the only thing I can see needing some sort of health based control.

 

The more plugins added the more the server veers, imo, into an RPG server and less of a Roleplayer server. It becomes more like WoW RP as opposed to actual creative writing and imagination RP. But that's a whole other kettle of worms.

 

All in all from what I've seen, the plugin seems creative. 

I do not think it will effect the amount of people who make and use custom food items, nor do I think it'll effect farming in any way. 

I didn't see it mentioned though I may have missed it, but what sort of decay timer are we looking at for food? Hopefully it takes into consideration the time played on a specific persona, and not on the server timer. 

[sona 108]

So first of all, nothing against Cheez! I'm sure this took a while of good work. Coding isn't easy, as someone who does it sometimes. So good work there!

 

...That being said, why push out this plugin with... nothing else worthwhile in it? Sure, I get it's framework. But this could've sat in the oven longer and also released with more farming capabilities (for those defending this saying it'll help farm RP) or more fun ways to make food? Like @Travistysaid, something like the many food mods out for Minecraft. 

 

War grinding will take even longer now. I don't even really say much on these forums, but I guess if I'm quiet, then that means I support it, which I don't. Food expiration is going to be an absolute pain. I doubt restaurants or taverns will actually benefit from this either, but I could be wrong. This doesn't even include how upcharge WILL happen on crops and foods. So aside from war grinding, why would anyone buy other foods if they'll undoubtedly become more expensive?

 

Either way, those are just my thoughts from a player that hasn't been around for years. Again, good work to Cheez! But I think that people are vocal for a reason against this. Do the poll. 

[bordwell 57]

37 minutes ago, Cheese said:

refrigerators aren’t tech locked right 

They killed frost witches so we couldnt turn them into sentient freezers