Hanrahan 2983 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Its attitudes like this that make you a target. Conclave has made diplomatic attempts with almost every faction and it's now friendly with Oren, Dwarves, Ex-Talonnii and the non-scourge affiliated Orc clans. How? We treat them with respect IC and OOC and don't call them trolls or look down upon their roleplay or ways of having fun. PS: Stop double posting you twerp. PPS: As someone who never RP'd with the Adunians once, all I observed from outside the box was a group of people who played the victim card constantly, built disposible landscarring builds everywhere and constantly rebelled for seemingly no reason. I'm not insulting you here or anything, this is just what I myself observed. I could easily be wrong. PPPS: You don't want to know how many hours I spent cleaning up after Adunian lands every time they moved. As someone who was part of it internally - I feel really bad for you having to clean up our messes. Honestly, the rebellion aspect was only due to the kilts and paint. If anyone cares about server history, we only rebelled twice. You can't rebel agaisnt a kingdom you don't live in and don't' serve. Also, we played the Victim card because we were victims, most of the time. Understanding what a playerbase goes through internally is important when judging it from the outside. P.S I'm so sorry for doubleposting, it's this annoying computer. D: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiebe 2493 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Why not allow region owners choose if their region is pvp or not, if you enter a no pvp zone it would warn you. This could rped as monks have set up wards or something idk. Worked in Aegis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neri 3590 Share Posted February 24, 2014 As someone who was part of it internally - I feel really bad for you having to clean up our messes. Honestly, the rebellion aspect was only due to the kilts and paint. If anyone cares about server history, we only rebelled twice. You can't rebel agaisnt a kingdom you don't live in and don't' serve. Also, we played the Victim card because we were victims, most of the time. :c Still, you could have played your cards better. If its any consolation I did like your lore and culture, especially that song Chikea made. Maybe if you made a real effort, like the Mali'Fenn have, to be a constructive and beneficial group to the server then people may change their attitudes to you over time. May. Anyways this is offtopic by a huge tangent... or is it? I feel like most of your posts have a hidden undercurrent... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helvetius 314 Share Posted February 24, 2014 You don't need a No-PvP Zone! Have people forgotten about normal walls going 100% around? Walls not surrounded by hills or using hills as a wall? We don't need some Towny plugin to toggle pvp either because it would make the server lame and stupid. Period. You don't need to be some PvP lover to know that. Think and you'll know why. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanrahan 2983 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Still, you could have played your cards better. If its any consolation I did like your lore and culture, especially that song Chikea made. Maybe if you made a real effort, like the Mali'Fenn have, to be a constructive and beneficial group to the server then people may change their attitudes to you over time. May. Anyways this is offtopic by a huge tangent... or is it? I feel like most of your posts have a hidden undercurrent... It is, I have a horrible habit of turning it into PVP/RAID = BAD argument. I don't think that much before I write, so tangents happen very easily. Sorry :C Main topic: Why is it so server-crushingly ruining to have a town where RPers who like RP can RP 100% of the time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiebe 2493 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I remember a command GMs did in Aegis that was called WAR, once entered, everyone in that region was notified that war was turned on and you could break blocks and pvp. Do that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neri 3590 Share Posted February 24, 2014 It is, I have a horrible habit of turning it into PVP/RAID = BAD argument. Main topic: Why is it so server-crushingly ruining to have a town where RPers who like RP can RP 100% of the time? Same reason why companies based in Monaco got into a scandal over tax evasions and havens. People will abuse what they can in most given cases whilst still technically being legal / within boundaries. This extends those boundaries to a point where it would be harmful to the server. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanrahan 2983 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Same reason why companies based in Monaco got into a scandal over tax evasions and havens. People will abuse what they can in most given cases whilst still technically being legal / within boundaries. This extends those boundaries to a point where it would be harmful to the server. I'm sorry if this is a daft question but.. How? How would they abuse it? Almost everything else is slightly abused.. This place would just be one town, and I doubt it would grow exponentially enough to cause 'Harm'.. What kind of harm could be caused? What problems would arise? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanrahan 2983 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 ^ Tat's done now. I'll give 0.003 Minas to anyone who can give me more then three points as to why having one town where PVP isn't allowed out of ALL the land and cities and settlements in 4.0 will cause the playerbase to kill each other, leave, and destroy LOTC. You must use IG examples, if using examples. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neri 3590 Share Posted February 24, 2014 ^ Tat's done now. I'll give 0.003 Minas to anyone who can give me more then three points as to why having one town where PVP isn't allowed out of ALL the land and cities and settlements in 4.0 will cause the playerbase to kill each other, leave, and destroy LOTC. You must use IG examples, if using examples. Burden of proof is on you, not us. Also stop writing in big obnoxious text, green italics is bad enough. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WuHanXianShi14 0 Share Posted February 24, 2014 People in Oren generally RP just as much as 'Hardcore RPers' do from what I find. What I do find is people are really tight knit there and inside jokes are thrown around alot in RP which can throw off noobs as they might find it offensive or not get it. What does this have to do with PVP? What I'm trying to say is even in areas stereotyped as being PVP hungry trolls there is plenty of indepth immersive RP. Constant raids still annoy me though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski_king3 0 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Somehow, you still managed to miss out on the points. -No place will accept us -No one will ally with us -We don't have the numbers or skills to defend -Tried to pay them off, was killed before saying 'Hello' -Tried to convince them via forums, got trolled into oblivion. -Don't have enough resources to pay tributes -Don't have enough players to counter-raid Okay, see the problem? If that was your scenario, how would you deal with it IN ROLEPLAY. Perhaps that's a very compelling RP reason to no longer exist. If you cannot survive through all RP attempts to survive, then die and assimilate elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanrahan 2983 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Delete this topic, I'm an idiot who's a selfish greedbag for wanting this. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson Option 9652 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Good you caught on so slowly. Ski_King3 hit the nail on the coffin on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neri 3590 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Delete this topic, I'm an idiot who's a selfish greedbag for wanting this. VICTIM CARD We're talking this over with Han privately so I think it's safe to trash this. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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