The Collapse [Modern Nations Frp] {Ooc/app + Interest Poll}

[Snoop 365]

Also do a modpost concerning North Korea. I don't want to make any further posts until their actions are done.

[Splitchris 11]

Sorry to bother you but I've invaded Uruguay and control that as well so just add that to the next map please.

[5678 260]

Not much time to RP today, so just pretend Indochina went through a long discussion with Indonesia before joining a union.

[dirtryhary 26]

Sorry my internet has been down I will hopefully post tonight even though it seems the butt wrecking has begun.

 

How do Indonesian subs get past the defenses Iv'e been building since way back when, and my navy? -.-

[Zanderaw 162]

They go around to where there's no navy, that's how. I thought you had put all that stuff on the east coast.

[bickando 3967]

Sorry Zanderaw, but I wrote a paragraph for you. It is impossible to upkeep 1,800 tanks, 3 million troops, and a massive fleet on Oceania's, quite frankly, low oil production. I'm telling you this on the basis that a tank goes 1.7 miles a gallon, and that your tanks would take 900 barrels of oil to move 20 miles, which is how far it would need to go in a straight line to go through Hong Kong, which it also is not doing. And I'm talking about Sherman-class light tanks, not your kiamat tanks, which would take approximately triple if they are as large and heavy as you proclaim them to be. Each day would require 2,700 barrels of oil to be shipped from Indonesia to the frontlines, and that doesn't include the costs of your fleet moving at all. I hate to break it to you, but the reason that a battlecarrier hasn't been made yet is that its daily cost would be too high. Daily operating cost of a battleship is 7 million. Daily cost of a carrier, 12 million. A surplus of funds may provide for a fleet full of battleships and corvettes, but a one of your massive ships would cost 30 million easy on maintenance alone. No sailing, just maintenance and crew upkeep. Oil costs for your fleet would be around 7,000 barrels per day. Total costs each day for your army would be around 500 million dollars for upkeep, not including import costs. You've been having an upkeep cost of at least 300 million since you started invasions, and surplus funds cannot account for all of that. I suggest you nerf or mothball your military, or you'd go bankrupt just sailing to China. Costs have already gone to the roof of your treasury.

 

At the same time, it'd be great if you stopped underplaying other nations like India (kind of like hexbug). Telling other nations that their oil bbl/day is low, while in some cases may be true, is not here. I'm sorry if this seems kind of prickly, but it's really impossible for you to be doing such massive movements. I've accounted for costs and a quarter of my treasury would be gone moving around troops with a treasury trillions above yours.

 

At the current time, with large amounts of expansion and low amounts of government funding, I will probably subject the following nations to a mod event (I'm telling you now so that everybody has a fair chance to get their countries in order):

China

Russia/Slavic Union

Germany

Oceanic Empire

France

Italy

United African Armies

 

On the same note, I'd like to ask that all countries please check the http://www.globalfirepower.com/ link they posted in their applications for the logistics and militaries of their nation (or conglomeration of nations). Moderation so far has been incredibly light as to upper limits, but I will start to enforce, and go more harshly on myself as I am playing as a high-tier nation. I had meant to start this earlier, but didn't expect this surprise so I'll delay it by another page so it doesn't seem like this is to protect myself. It's time I start doing my duty as a moderator, I suppose. Thanks for your time.

[Zanderaw 162]

The battlecruisers are nuclear powered, which negates the oil cost in that realm, but even by your estimation of the oil cost it's still manageable. All combined, the countries under oceania produce 3,265,550 barrels of oil per day, which is indeed less than you. Now, doing the math for oil consumption, assuming Australia uses less since it's basically a prison state now, we come out about even with that number, or maybe a bit over. If I implement basic rationing, as I did when war was first declared with India, The army at its current size should be able to be maintained easily, and we can attribute its functionality until now to the stockpiles accrued from that time until the restrictions were recently lifted.

 

India is not so lucky. Its oil production is 897,300 barrels per day, slightly less than Indonesia alone. However, its consumption is far higher, at 3,292,000 barrels per day, a difference of 2,394,700 barrels/day. There is no way in hell India is going to be able to bridge that gap.

 

That brings us to you. Now, I haven't read your previous posts thoroughly, so correct me if I'm wrong, but Chian produces in the neighborhood of 4 million barrels per day and consumes in the ballpark of 10 million barrels per day. It is for this reason that I assumed you would be starved for oil when the attack happened. Your rationing is going to have to be pretty damn serious, and if I'm going to accept that that works, then it should be easy for me to fix the problem.

 

Conclusion: India still crippled, China problems manageable, Oceania problems definitely manageable.

 

EDIT: I have read your posts and can find no reference to a superfleet between USA and Indonesia. There was a fleet in the southeast very early on, but it would have been encountered by my armada if it were still there. Furthermore, I'm assuming the 750 ships you're sending at me are very low quality, as globalfirepower lists only 520 ships in total, the majority of which are coastal defense craft.

 

Also looking forward to shooting peasants!

[hellfiazz 879]

Bet all you guys wished you had listened to the enviro-freaks now lol

[SteelMarshall 190]

I'd like to point out that the UAA has been putting practically ALL of its government funding into stabilizing the region. I am the only nation (to my knowledge) that hasn't been wasting it's treasury on technological improvements or the upkeep of a draft army, for the sole purpose of allowing for rapid expansion.

[bickando 3967]

Forgot about the SteelMarshall, sorry.

 

Zanderaw, I suppose you're right. Since I started I rationed oil and used my oil reserves to get my troops around, and I forgot to add in the other countries in Oceania when doing calculations.

 

My two fleets are very low in quality, almost all coastal defense craft. You could easily destroy both of them, it was just China's attempt to fight back.

[SteelMarshall 190]

No problem! I just wanted to make sure that was put out there, since i haven't been building any badass armor or super carriers because of it xD

[Splitchris 11]

I'm very worried that some nations will just eclipse all others in technology and then proceed to insta-destroy all other armies from like 10 miles away with super space Jets and such 'advancements'. It seems this will happen with the current technology system where everything is basically unlimited and built in 5 pages or less.

[Splitchris 11]

I'm saying this with experience from many many other FRPs

[DigitalRescue 4]

The extent of tech in this FRP is exoskeletons and a supercarrier. I don't think anyone is using anything past a 7.62 rifle as far as weapons go. I havent seen any superfast jets, either. And tech has sped up so much because of the 5 page tech advancement mod event, so yeah.

[Splitchris 11]

Eh, the whole drone armada thing worries me, really. The fact that this tech is also being produced so quickly is more serious than the actual advancement - the fact that these new designs are produced in the hundreds after a few pages is quite exaggerated and scary to be honest. Having hundreds of those drone planes capable of beating actual pilots in dogfights on one carrier and being able to be launched faster than any normal plane seems a bit O.P. to me, but meh, maybe I'm just being a bit hysterical. I just don't want something like where everybody has their own super weapon stand-off which kills RP like we had with those satellite weapons and biological bombs and etc.