[Your View] Conquest Proposal Specifics

[Archbishop 1784]

Jachun if you cannot get rp to your capital and cling to the excuse that theres taverns then its not really a capital its a ghost town. Stop blaming the fact that your nation capital cannot get rp. Every other capital has rp and theres still taverns so maybe nobody wants to go there?

[KarmaDelta 969]

What roleplay reason would it be if there is no rp reason for it? Im pretty sure most OOC will be taken into Ic. I may be wrong and paranoid ? 

 

Money my friend. Im surprised no one has yet to warclaim your tavern over how much money you probably make, along with how rich of a location it is. People may hate on tavern RP in OOC, but honestly, going IC as a merchant, I would totally try and talk my nation leader into trying to take your land if no deal could be met with you.

[Alakabam 582]

I think you are thinking way too highly of the situation, I am implying that tavern rp is more so endorsed by the staff than nation capital rp, they pose no threat hence why no nation has even attacked your tavern yet, but it is a very huge factor as to why players are less attracted to capitals, most rp happen in a tavern isolated from a city whereas in other days most capital rp was in a tavern inside a city.

Where is tavern rp being endorsed by staff? Just because they are closer to the cloud temple, if that would be the case than why isn't the orc thing filled with people at all times, the problem is that Zero's tavern is actually active and Petrus's is not. Pretty sure the Elven and Dwarven tavern is as busy at times while I have yet to see anyone in the Petrus tavern, besides from when Urara was the owner of it. This would be weird in itself if Oren wasn't the biggest nation with the most people, but even though they have the most people their tavern is less active than the Elves.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

Casus belli for attacking a region should be considered to be IC until proven it's OOC. Not the other way around.

[Jachnun 566]

Jachun if you cannot get rp to your capital and cling to the excuse that theres taverns then its not really a capital its a ghost town. Stop blaming the fact that your nation capital cannot get rp. Every other capital has rp and theres still taverns so maybe nobody wants to go there?

I agree that Petrus isn't attracting any rp but there are several other capitals such as Cerulin who could be blooming much more than taverns rn, and taverns are a large component when it comes to straining. 

[ℤ∃ʁ∅ 823]

I think you are thinking way too highly of the situation, I am implying that tavern rp is more so endorsed by the staff than nation capital rp, they pose no threat hence why no nation has even attacked your tavern yet, but it is a very huge factor as to why players are less attracted to capitals, most rp happen in a tavern isolated from a city whereas in other days most capital rp was in a tavern inside a city. 

I might am, sorry if I sounded triggered. Sadly the first thing that pops in my mind when I see 'forced conquest' "Oh shhhh Guys we are about to be destroyed! we have no military! " thats because we try to please everyone and treat everyone equal. We do our best to make sure we arent targeted. Oren: "This place needs a Creator Cross around here!" Me: "Alright! Guys this place needs a damn cross NOW!" Orcs: "Tribute! Now!" Me : "Already ahead of you! Tell me what you want and Need and well set things up NOW." Stuff like that would be a good way to stay off the conquest or threat scale which is something my tavern does. Which calms me to not fully worry. If I was to deny and treat everyone like crap when they demanded me to do things. Oh yes please conquest and rekt the tavern. We'd deserve it. 

[zaezae 1098]

My god people understand that IC reasoning don't have to make since or be justified. Our characters have black, grey, white, orange, and blue morality. They don't have to make sense. They don't. You scoff at 'PURGE' but that is legitimate RP. Ramza, your tavern is, in my character's opinion, a cess-pool. She'd support it's destruction, and I've no reason OOCly to feel that way. Your tavern's popularity makes it a more legitimate target for warclaim for a myriad of reasons. There is way too much concern for OOC comfort. 

 

I mean, you cannot please every single person, and you'll have conflict. Life isn't fair, and neither should RP.

[Jachnun 566]

Where is tavern rp being endorsed by staff? Just because they are closer to the cloud temple, if that would be the case than why isn't the orc thing filled with people at all times, the problem is that Zero's tavern is actually active and Petrus's is not. Pretty sure the Elven and Dwarven tavern is as busy at times while I have yet to see anyone in the Petrus tavern, besides from when Urara was the owner of it. This would be weird in itself if Oren wasn't the biggest nation with the most people, but even though they have the most people their tavern is less active than the Elves.

I really don't care which tavern is bigger than which I am pro city rp not tavern rp and idc what city it is generally but I think there are several other cities who should blooming much more than roadside taverns, something which shiftnative himself favored (the man who built this map) tried to do. And this hasn't worked well what so ever, taverns have so far proved to kill the noob retention whereas cities were much better at that. Cities play a huge roll in player retention, not taverns and player retention is something we need to focus on because we have lost a significant amount of players and most noobs who apply dont even stay. 

[Archbishop 1784]

I have yet to see where the Cerulin tavern is. But if you can't keep your taverns active because there are better taverns thats an ic problem. You should get someone who can actually own and make events there not just ignore it. If you want your tavern to be active give them reason to go there not just remove other taverns in hope they will flock to yours, which they won't. A new tavern will just be rebuilt elsewhere. It does not matter where the tavern is, it will always get rp and has done since there was a roadside tavern in Anthos.

[ℤ∃ʁ∅ 823]

 

Money my friend. Im surprised no one has yet to warclaim your tavern over how much money you probably make, along with how rich of a location it is. People may hate on tavern RP in OOC, but honestly, going IC as a merchant, I would totally try and talk my nation leader into trying to take your land if no deal could be met with you.

 

That would be true, Its funny Ramza doesn't take money from the staff. You work here, your tips your money. I let you make your money from your labor. How I make my money? I do the same as you.

 

The thing is he wanted to make a tavern with the elves, because he was. But was denied. So what he did was go and find a land and start up a tavern of his own. And we the deal thing, Its not like we are rich. Because we arent lol. We'd cook for a huge party for the queen or King with such. Order food boom we'll make it and deliver it. Have it your way. 

[Jachnun 566]

I have yet to see where the Cerulin tavern is. But if you can't keep your taverns active because there are better taverns thats an ic problem. You should get someone who can actually own and make events there not just ignore it. If you want your tavern to be active give them reason to go there not just remove other taverns in hope they will flock to yours, which they won't. A new tavern will just be rebuilt elsewhere. It does not matter where the tavern is, it will always get rp and has done since there was a roadside tavern in Anthos.

The roadside tavern in Anthos was completely dead even though it was footsteps away from spawn and most rp happened in the Conclave and Abresi, before that Salvus and Malinor player retention was much higher then, this is when city rp dominated there is obviously a good incentive behind city rp, and tavern rp shouldn't be favored by the staff over city rp like Shiftnative did. 

[mmat 7460]

Can we stop diverting the topic from conquest to nexus plots and taverns please. I get they're kind of related, but it's a different discussion that will be had.

[Ragadorus 113]

Personally I find be the polls are not fitting to determine these situations. As the Humans are the majority player base, they will win their designated choice (aka, a biased poll).

As a solution a different polling method should be determined, maybe dividing the votes of the various nations and unaffiliated rather than what the Staff are riding on now to get people's opinions.

The fringe logic here being that if the humans are the majority of the playerbase - which I highly doubt; they might have a plurality, but not the majority - and all the humans have the same opinion, then the majority still chose that option.  The majority being a group of players with a different opinion from yours does not make it a less valid opinion.

[Alakabam 582]

I really don't care which tavern is bigger than which I am pro city rp not tavern rp and idc what city it is generally but I think there are several other cities who should blooming much more than roadside taverns, something which shiftnative himself favored (the man who built this map) tried to do. And this hasn't worked well what so ever, taverns have so far proved to kill the noob retention whereas cities were much better at that. Cities play a huge roll in player retention, not taverns and player retention is something we need to focus on because we have lost a significant amount of players and most noobs who apply dont even stay.

You say you'd like more capital rp but I don't see you roleplaying in Petrus creating fun, so what would make people want to go there, the tavern is just busy cause there is fun to be had and it's a nice enviroment.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

You say you'd like more capital rp but I don't see you roleplaying in Petrus creating fun, so what would make people want to go there, the tavern is just busy cause there is fun to be had and it's a nice enviroment.

That road tavern is popular because of its location and it's location alone. Same with the standing inn. Any plot in that area is bound to sink the most RP.

 

Let's not kid ourselves by pretending it's anything else.