Off topic: Shoes and Halflings

[Free The Hobbits 859]

With the growing number of improper Halflings quickly rising in numbers I'd like to make clear that there is a difference between being 'improper' and being simply just a tiny Human and playing the character simply for the farming, fishing, and cooking buffs. Not only are these issues prevalent in the past years I have been playing a Halfling but they have become increasingly more prevalent since the destruction of Goodborough (Now Luciensport).

 

The biggest issue that I see is Halflings wearing armor, while this isn't the worst thing you can do, armor does not fit Halflings who are both too short and too weak by nature to be able to move in it. In short I'll get to the point that I'm trying to make. Shoes are one of the things that you really can't wear. It just doesn't work, they don't fit comfortably over the hairy and leathery foot of a Hobbit. It would feel uncomfortable and you'd need to find awkwardly sized shoes. Besides, they would be very redundant because Hobbits have pretty much shoes for feet. It's like speaking blah, it's partially mental but mostly because Orcs have giant tusks in the way of their mouth, it doesn't work any other way. I know the Orcs had/have similar problems with whitewash Orcs who didn't actually do anything they just played an Orc to play an Orc and I hope that we can get some activity in town again, hopefully.

 

So yeah, play impropers it isn't an issue to do so and it is encouraged you play a Halfling but the difference between a Human and a Hallfing is pretty large so keep in mind the lore and traditions of a Halfling otherwise you're just playing a tiny, useless Human.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

A skilled smith is surely capable of custom-fitting a suit of armour to be small enough to fit a halfling, and adaptable enough to its physique.

 

I understand you frustration (I myself deal with "wood elfs" who exist to be PVP platforms cause of the archery buff), but you really cannot tell halflings OOCly how to act and what to wear. Especially shoes. Halflings just have bigger, hairier, more calluoused feet...what exactly is preventing them from wearing shoes again? I'm sure a good enough cobbler is more than capable of designing footwear for them. It's a bit presumptuous to say "halfling feet are so special, no shoe will ever be able to fit them ever".

 

Anyway, that's my two cents.

[Jistuma 1996]

Nothing by lore stops a halfling from wearing shoes or armor. That just means that the players can't get in trouble for doing it. IC you can do whatever.

 

Halflings have various ways that can be described, heck, they even made themselves divided into... I forgot their names... still, it was 'different' types of halflings.

[KarmaDelta 969]

The old ways die my friend.

[dm420 186]

This. I understand your feeling, and I 100% agree with you. But you gotta understand that everyun is different and want to play their halflings differently if they so desire.

[Kim 1328]

down with shoes

[SodaiKamikaze 652]

Shoes do not go on halfling feet..

Wee-folk walk bare..

 

[_Jandy_ 3519]

9 hours ago, 吳憾戰士14 said:

A skilled smith is surely capable of custom-fitting a suit of armour to be small enough to fit a halfling, and adaptable enough to its physique.

 

I understand you frustration (I myself deal with "wood elfs" who exist to be PVP platforms cause of the archery buff), but you really cannot tell halflings OOCly how to act and what to wear. Especially shoes. Halflings just have bigger, hairier, more calluoused feet...what exactly is preventing them from wearing shoes again? I'm sure a good enough cobbler is more than capable of designing footwear for them. It's a bit presumptuous to say "halfling feet are so special, no shoe will ever be able to fit them ever".

 

Anyway, that's my two cents.

The only armor that actually sits well on halflings is about the thickness of a bucket. Not really worth wearing armor at all when it comes down to it.

9 hours ago, Jistuma said:

Nothing by lore stops a halfling from wearing shoes or armor. That just means that the players can't get in trouble for doing it. IC you can do whatever.

 

Halflings have various ways that can be described, heck, they even made themselves divided into... I forgot their names... still, it was 'different' types of halflings.

No lore stops them but it would be very uncomfortable, I'm sure we could get Heff, the person who is supposed to be the chosen expert in the subject, to confirm this.

 

8 hours ago, KarmaDelta said:

The old ways die my friend.

It's been medieval times and most things have stayed the same for like 1500 years, right?

 

8 hours ago, امين said:

This. I understand your feeling, and I 100% agree with you. But you gotta understand that everyun is different and want to play their halflings differently if they so desire.

Ahh, that makes sense. In that case the special snowflakes shall be the future! Even if they don't understand the race lore :/

 

7 hours ago, Kimbap said:

down with shoes

This is why you're my favorite.

 

6 hours ago, Nalatac said:

Shoes do not go on halfling feet..

Wee-folk walk bare..

 

Correct.

[Free The Hobbits 859]

8 hours ago, KarmaDelta said:

The old ways die my friend.

Then just play a human, idk what you want me to say, the lore and burrows are literally what sets a halfling from a human

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

7 minutes ago, _Jandy_ said:

The only armor that actually sits well on halflings is about the thickness of a bucket. Not really worth wearing armor at all when it comes down to it.

I don't really follow your logic...

[_Jandy_ 3519]

Just now, 吳憾戰士14 said:

I don't really follow your logic...

Halflings are tiny people who have never been warriors. They can't carry their weight in metal and historically the only armor able to be used by halflings was made directly from buckets. Halflings wearing armor is only for the most special of snowflakes who don't really want to play a halfling, I'm sure they just want to be a tiny human with a farming/cooking/fishing buff. 

[Free The Hobbits 859]

30 minutes ago, 吳憾戰士14 said:

I don't really follow your logic...

Neither do I because Tyrion is 4 feet~ just about I don't remember if they ever give a specific height but Peter Dinklage is about 4'5" so a good foot taller than a Halfling. So, I don't really follow your logic...

[Sky 0]

Considering the populace of the halfling demographic, you really don't have much reason to ostracize an already dwindling player base. They are able to wear armour, they are able to wear shoes and even act in ways otherwise seen as odd for a halfling, if they do shun them in-character and avoid causing out of character ****-threads. Unless they are breaking biological lore here, which they aren't, then quite frankly get over it and over the idea that you somehow control the way all halflings should be played.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

21 minutes ago, Free The Hobbits said:

Neither do I because Tyrion is 4 feet~ just about I don't remember if they ever give a specific height but Peter Dinklage is about 4'5" so a good foot taller than a Halfling. So, I don't really follow your logic...

Armour, as seen on Tyrion here, can be scaled down to the body proportions of smaller people. That's my point.

I'm sure the same smith who made Tyrion's set here could make a slightly smaller set for someone a foot shorter.

 

Also there is the concept of proportional weight. A smaller set of armour = lighter than a larger set of armour. A halfling would be wearing a suit of armour of the same proportion to his body weight than a human in a human-sized suit of armour would be.

[Free The Hobbits 859]

3 minutes ago, ˢᵏʸ said:

Considering the populace of the halfling demographic, you really don't have much reason to ostracize an already dwindling player base. 

I haven't ostracized anybody, I said you're encouraged to play an improper but if you really don't follow lore you're just playing a funny human.

 

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They are able to wear armour, they are able to wear shoes and even act in ways otherwise seen as odd for a halfling, if they do shun them in-character and avoid causing out of character ****-threads. Unless they are breaking biological lore here, which they aren't, then quite frankly get over it and over the idea that you somehow control the way all halflings should be played.

Do you think everything I do is out of character? You don't need to take my word as the golden law of the land here mate, you can do **** all with your life and I won't care because if an improper walks into town they get a good proper shoveling. If nobody follows Halfling lore you also need to understand they don't even really look different from Humans otherwise. If you name your Halfling Robert and walk around in armor you're really just playing it for the buffs and you know it.

 

Most impropers do a good job of being Halflings and even though I don't know most of them I do know that there are quite a few who are pleasant people. I haven't insulted you, and frankly telling a group of people who agree to 'get over it' is quite rude and uncalled for. If I play an Orc and just walk around with green skinned human speaking bard what's the point? Orcs are blood thirsty by nature just as Halflings are mostly peaceful by nature, although some have short tempers and easily swayed to evil. The point is if you don't have a reason to break the lore you should just stay away from the character.