A Trial: Defender Default

[HeroOfDuLoc 1935]

1 hour ago, Adam_barnett said:

Or the fact people want to roleplay on this server? PVP is not roleplay. An example why is because somebody could train very hard and be a very good fighter in roleplay, then have a very bad and laggy computer/laptop which will mean the roleplay of training won't affect it. Lag affects pvp, lag does not affect roleplay.

I play on some computer I bought at Bestbuy 4 years ago, I get anywhere from 30-50 fps, sometimes worse. Laggy computers/laptops do not affect how good you can become at PvP, and completely disregarding someone's opinion because they're 'pvp trolls' is not how you contribute to an argument. As Lunar said Csalz had some shitty laptop that could only run Minecraft, still better that 90% of the people on the server. Just because it's an RP server doesn't mean RP is the best choice of combat, especially when people who don't understand basic body functions go about the server doing backflips. I myself have witnessed you complaining IRP when you were walking about the Uzg and an Orc attacked you, you automatically becoming flustered when the Orc didn't let you win. When you have a competent argument that isn't 'It's an RP server it should be RP,' then come back and express your points maturely and perfectly clear enough for us to understand you.

[Equinox 245]

I still see it as a trial, those that complain about it need to give it time, especially since it is indeed a TRIAL, and it's based on the DEFENDER, not the attacker.

 

If you want to circumvent the ruling, find people that don't mind the pvp, or you know, stop the random acts of violence. -- If anything.

[BonesOfTheEarth 2252]

Wow, this thread was constructive criticism at first, yeah. Now its a shitfest of people arguing.

 

Please.

Calm the **** down, guys.

[AGP 3169]

1 hour ago, Equinox said:

I still see it as a trial, those that complain about it need to give it time, especially since it is indeed a TRIAL, and it's based on the DEFENDER, not the attacker.

 

If you want to circumvent the ruling, find people that don't mind the pvp, or you know, stop the random acts of violence. -- If anything.

1) We could theoretically have a "trial" of being a pvp factions server instead of an Rp server and I don't think that would go over well! An idea should not necessarily be entertained with a trial "just cuz."

2) Random acts of violence happen in roleplay.

[whiteoak123 9]

This sounds awesome, and hope it ends well.

[BonesOfTheEarth 2252]

Just now, whiteoak123 said:

This sounds awesome, and hope it ends well.

Yes, thank you.

<3

[lemontide331 1615]

5 hours ago, Adam_barnett said:

Pvp is literally who has the best pc and who can click the fastest.
If you do not have a good pc you can't strife and will lag very badly while attempting to do it. While strifing or lagging you need to spam click. Just because you know a few combos don't mean it is not spam clicking. Just because you're hitting somebody while falling down towards the ground, does not mean you're not spam clicking.

doesnt take a gd pc to run mc on 30+ fps tbh. but if u get below that and complain about pvp then im not quite sure why you're playing minecraft in the first place :)

[colovian fur 8360]

11 hours ago, Pureimp10 said:

At this point, you're almost as bad as Rubio.

 

 

    Let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that PvP Defaulters don't know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing. PvP Defaulters are undertaking a systematic effort to change this server, to make LoTC more like a factions server.

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    But I would add this. Let's dispel with this fiction that PvP Defaulters don't know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing. They are trying to change this server. They want LoTC to become a factions server. We don't want to be a factions server, we want to be the Lord of the Craft. And when I'm elected Admin, this will become once again, the single greatest roleplaying server in the history of Minecraft, not the disaster PvP default has imposed upon us.

 

 

[Pureimp10 5691]

You're funny.

[xDK 1205]

On 3/3/2016 at 7:20 PM, Samoblivion said:

 

Not really an option for the Orcs, a society built around bloodlust, strength, pillaging and warrior culture. To say "Don't raid." is to say "Don't RP your character's culture."

 

 

You said it yourself.. Bloodlust, strength, pillaging and warrior culture. All very centric and needed in an orcish culture.. However, believing that you would need PvP default in order to do all those things, speaks to your lack of inginuety.

 

 

On 3/3/2016 at 8:03 PM, Steazus christ said:

Not being funny but with the state of the rp combat, this is fkin stupid. I've tried rp now and all I am met with is power game after powergame after powergame after powergame, I also do not want to spend six hours roleplaying with the same person, i have better things to do, simply put, if you don't like pvp default, get good at pvp instead of acting like a nob head. 

 

 

Go back to Mineplex plz.

 

 

On 3/3/2016 at 8:50 PM, Anderssn said:

 

 That's not what I'm trying to say. But yeah, every military order or group is formed with a cause which is most likely to protect and to eliminate threats. And you raid to weaken or to piss off your enemy, or simply because it's fun. 

 

 

Fun for whom? You?

[Blundermore 2741]

Oh LOTC, how far you have fallen since Aegis...

[Pureimp10 5691]

5 hours ago, xDK said:

Go back to Mineplex plz.

Go back to MassiveCraft plz

[Anderssn 1115]

6 hours ago, xDK said:

 

Fun for whom? You?

 

Pretty much everyone playing on this  HC PVP Factions server.

[Samoblivion 532]

8 hours ago, xDK said:

You said it yourself.. Bloodlust, strength, pillaging and warrior culture. All very centric and needed in an orcish culture.. However, believing that you would need PvP default in order to do all those things, speaks to your lack of inginuety.

 

Speaks to my lack of ingenuity? Christ, get that stick out of your arse.

 

I'm not saying that PvP is intrinsic to Orcish culture. I'm not saying that those things can't be accomplished in an RP default or defender default environment. There are many examples in orcish rp where we prefer to rp fight, for example character arc relevant bouts between rivals, among others. But overall, PvP is vastly preferrable in many instances.

 

To use the example of raids: they are elongated by defender default if the defender chooses RP fighting. In an engagement that would in real life take around 15 minutes, these confrontations are stretched to half an hour to well over an hour by typing and, very often, power-gaming. By elongating the time of the raid it is highly likely that meta-gaming reinforcements of the defender can arrive. What's more, if you feel your RP time is disturbed by raiding forces, surely wanting to elongate such a raid with contrived emote combat would be counter-intuitive? A PvP raid is generally over in 10 minutes, while an RP only raid can last for over half an hour, or hours at its worst (<--- That happened to me once, in an antagonist raid on Malinor in Anthos when people complained enough to make a 30+ person fight RP only, and all sides hated it).

 

While we're discussing raids I'd like to commend Oren, particularly the Savoyards, for continuing with PvP when they defend in raids. They understand, unlike some, that it makes things far more streamlined and overall reduces tears, rule-breaking and overall saltiness on all sides.

[SirSpaceyEsquire 2]

Thank THE GREAT GOOD JEBADIAH KERMIN!!! This is exactly what the server needed, I almost left the server permanently because of the god awful pvp default system we had.