BrandNewKitten 2789 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Roleplay is Roleplay and they exist in Roleplay so let them Roleplay. If they can find ways to create events as player made antags then everyone else should be happy since player made antags are exactly what the playerbase has asked for. It's difficult to know which will work so this just opens another opportunity. Instead of creating another dark group out of no where this one now has years of prior history on the server. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaotikal 2236 Share Posted May 20, 2016 46 minutes ago, Redxophos said: By "no free will" do you mean to say they are like golems now? Unable to do much without the specific instructions of their impera, in this case being the drake? No, like Setherien's free will. It's not free will, but it's not direct control. Kind of like a slave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malocchio 983 Share Posted May 20, 2016 3 hours ago, Free The Hobbits said: I'm not trying to be mean or insult your writing, but consider abstaining from 'big' words and write naturally. A good writing piece doesn't need to sound like you took every word from a thesaurus. Just because you say "xd no offense my dude b-but!!" doesn't mean that what you're saying isn't an insult. Matt has a brilliant, ridiculously vibrant vocabulary and if you have a problem understand "big" words, consider not commenting and feel free to use Google to allow comprehension. This is indeed, as Lev said, how Matt talks naturally and as someone who experienced the same sort of comments about my writing, it's actually extremely irritating that you had to add that tiny little comment for some +1's from halfwit forum-serpents. Try not to do that to people, yeah? That's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavernLich 324 Share Posted May 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, Chaotikal said: No, like Setherien's free will. It's not free will, but it's not direct control. Kind of like a slave. What? That's not a weakness. That's a filler to make the "cons" look good. Role play is role play but don't give a bunch of have-beens power without proper weakness. Until I see real cons, - 1. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onslaughted 920 Share Posted May 21, 2016 3 hours ago, Redxophos said: What? That's not a weakness. That's a filler to make the "cons" look good. Role play is role play but don't give a bunch of have-beens power without proper weakness. Until I see real cons, - 1. I seriously don't understand what you are getting at, it seems you were literally trying any reason to -1 on the thread in my opinion. Right now harbingers kinda just sit around, just sitting like "Hey". this is us trying to boost them up again and have an actual purpose to be on the server in the first place, though our minds aren't free anymore, we can't really control our harbingers like we used if we put ourselves under a new drakaar, to me that is a con, to you I am not sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxury 603 Share Posted May 21, 2016 This is nice. In my opinion, Harbingers ended up in a weird state after Setherien. I'd see one from time to time like 'Oh.. You guys are still here?'. Let them be refreshed once more before they finally fizzle out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaotikal 2236 Share Posted May 21, 2016 33 minutes ago, Redxophos said: What? That's not a weakness. That's a filler to make the "cons" look good. Role play is role play but don't give a bunch of have-beens power without proper weakness. Until I see real cons, - 1. considering you didn't really pay attention to what I wrote and can't bother to interpret, feel free to -1 tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lhindir_ 3439 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Huge +1, let it happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaise 1569 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 Appreciate all the comments. I'll look at potential cons that aren't typical when I have the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TavernLich 324 Share Posted May 21, 2016 1 hour ago, OnϟlaughtƩd said: I seriously don't understand what you are getting at, it seems you were literally trying any reason to -1 on the thread in my opinion. Right now harbingers kinda just sit around, just sitting like "Hey". this is us trying to boost them up again and have an actual purpose to be on the server in the first place, though our minds aren't free anymore, we can't really control our harbingers like we used if we put ourselves under a new drakaar, to me that is a con, to you I am not sure. Let me get you to see through my eyes: first of all, dying antagonists that should have died a long time ago are regaining their God-tier powers. What's the catch? Basically they harbor emotional woes because of their emo Drakaar overlord and then they are "enslaved." So what? A slave can do anything they want so long as it doesn't contradict a command given by their master. I'm not -1ing this just for the sake of -1ing, it's because this doesn't have any legitimate weaknesses. 1 hour ago, Chaotikal said: considering you didn't really pay attention to what I wrote and can't bother to interpret, feel free to -1 tbh. You gave little information, most of it being vague and confusing. Not much to interpret. Give me something cogent, so that I may work with it. Other wise cut that passive aggressive crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
excited 10834 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Has my support. Paladins and Ascended turned a new leaf, it'd be simply shameful to reject the same opportunity too the Harbingers at this point. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ℤ∃ʁ∅ 823 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Holy magic still super effective towards them right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaise 1569 Author Share Posted May 21, 2016 10 hours ago, Matt_dew said: Cons: -Being influenced by a dark being, the Harbingers take enhanced damage from holy forces. Yup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToodIes 1198 Share Posted May 21, 2016 Some questions. Are they still weak to gold? Would they be weak to Fi', which would cut the connection with their 'deity'? You say they won't be able to rely on Bloodshards anymore. What about Thanhium armor? Can you be a bit more specific on what 'free themselves from their husk state' entails? Why is merely being influenced by a dark being the reason they're damaged by holy magics? Shouldn't it be because they're, y'know, undead? When you say it's entirely voluntary, do you mean IRPly or OOCly? i.e. can a Harbinger be forced to come under a new master completely ICly, or does it require OOC consent? Are new Harbingers able to be created by Azdromoth? Can they still be 'cleansed' by Xan magic in this state? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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