why do ST hate voidal magic?

[LoTC's Next Top Model 1626]

hi i write a void magic. i constantly get complaints about how life evo is the "most restrictive magic on the server" and i've come to the conclusion that most people just arn't very creative and blame that on lore rather than trying to think of new ideas themselves.

void magic is by far the most creative and freeform of all magics, with the ability to literally make your own spells (magnum opus) and pretty lax rules about freeform enchantment, as well as cross-compat between magics giving you fun and whacky abilities for pairing certain magics together. the sky's the limit, problem is most people want an escalator.

[Aehkaj 1244]

They don’t since prosthetics like Animii loose overclock abilities because “prosthetics shouldnt make it favorable to loose a limb” but telekinetic arms are an all around buff
+ Translo’s buff where you can teleport and attack in the same emote

 

Or I’m completely wrong, idk I’ve never had an rp reason to get into voidal magic 

[sami03 387]

STcels should spend their time writing my ratmen ca instead of doing shit events featuring ratmen as enemies

[satin 7600]

6 hours ago, argonian said:

the fact that lore changes too often for the average joe to give one singular shit needs only be proven by the fact that only the ST keep track of it. the lectors, a very based and incredibly fun group, nevertheless were only on top of it because almost all their lead players, and all their active players at least, were story team members

 

that lore in general changes too often for anyone to give a shit, you prove it yourself with your shitty comeback that no one besides me and charoodler will ever notice. enjoy reaching the rest of humanity with this b4 this current stance is retconned yet again. not that i understand why ur using a voidal magic thread as a weird attempt to flex on me, i've never fought against it once, but uh do what u want ig dude.

 

this simply isn't true though, it's an incorrect stereotype

if you don't read lore how can you tell when it changes

[MeteorDragon 3441]

3 hours ago, Aehkaj said:

Translo’s buff where you can teleport and attack in the same emote

 

Hate the break the news to you... but this was always a thing. The buff came when it was given to Brisk Step, which has a cooldown, minor teleport always had this

[argonian 14254]

1 hour ago, satinkira said:

 

this simply isn't true though, it's an incorrect stereotype

if you don't read lore how can you tell when it changes

the new topics section

[satin 7600]

51 minutes ago, argonian said:

the new topics section

 

 

changes that are made are listed here sorta monthly - but people aren't obligated to keep up with them to do magic rp. barely anyone who rps magic or supernatural shit keeps up with all of the changes. not that they can't, but it's just that they aren't bothered. people can give a shit abt lore without keeping up with the changes

I fear I may be shadowboxing

[Proddy 2415]

 

[flexMate 346]

20 hours ago, ronin_champloo said:

Because the majority of players are stuck in this section of the iceberg.

 

 

Regardless, seriously speaking from what I've witnessed and seen, it's not a problem of the ST hating voidal magic.. it's an issue with players themselves being unable to form their own proper opinions, and instead parroting what they've said again and again, like a circlejerk, and these reflect IRP. Concepts and thoughts that would drive a person mad are instantly believed by the Ben Shapiro, Alchemy-Guzzling and Philosophy-Snorting populace of LoTC so easily and quickly as a way to downplay, disparage and demean Voidal Mages ICly and OOCly. 

 

These same people will IRPly go to cities, talk about how the void is bad, and carry the same atmosphere as these guys, rather than relying on IRP experience to decide wherever or not something is bad/good.

 

 

Make your own opinions, read stuff and react accordingly to RP rather than looking toward forum posts and discord messages for your own beliefs. What you read OOCly shouldn't reflect what your character believes ICly.

LOL I gotta see the entire iceberg.

[argonian 14254]

6 hours ago, satinkira said:

 

 

changes that are made are listed here sorta monthly - but people aren't obligated to keep up with them to do magic rp. barely anyone who rps magic or supernatural shit keeps up with all of the changes. not that they can't, but it's just that they aren't bothered. people can give a shit abt lore without keeping up with the changes

I fear I may be shadowboxing

if not even mages can be fucked keeping up with magic lore, that's a problem innit

 

now imagine ur someone who only comes across a certain type of magic or CA once every several months, and it's a coin-toss whether half the reclines and counters will have been changed

 

lore shouldn't read like a league of legends balance patch

 

anyway pm me if u wanna continue this cuz I'm going way off topic here

[Slorbin 2932]

voidal magic is dumb ******* evil sorcery bullshit and it's an irreparably shitty system of magic. literally the only way to fix voidal magic would be to remove it entirely and introduce manamagic

[Cloakedsphere 1471]

Voidal magic is literally the bread and butter of the ST. There are many other magics, that the ST dislike heavily no matter how many times it is re-written to be considered fair or nerfed into oblivion only to be shot down and/or shelved entirely.

ST Care more about voidal magic and druidism more than any other magic on LotC and they focus heavily on those 2 because they're the most prevalent, and that is fact. I dont know why you think the ST hate voidal magic...

But for anyone to say voidal magic is tough to get... well... you clearly havent attempted looking for it or getting it. Voidal magic is handed out like candy to basically any and everyone with little to no care, which has inevitably diluted the magic to be extremely boring and mundane to the average user who encounters it because nobody actually provides story telling or story building RP with it. Early on, when voidal mages actually were somewhat rare, the server loved to see them because it meant they had a 1 up in fights or that they were extremely good roleplayers who made cool trinkets with powers that could be used. Now, I can buy 20 of the same trinket from 10 different shops in 1 city alone. Voidal magic has taken a steep downswing in quality if you ask me. Otherwise, I think voidal magic is fine. Making magic accessible is fine and I am a firm believer in giving everybody a fair chance. But getting the magic to "just have a magic" or to craft items and sell items with your enchants on them, is as lame as it gets. Build some story, create RP posts, create guilds, do something other than "magic missile" rp. 

[Morigung-oog 5697]

Void magic's fine. The players themselves just often deny any sort of important voidal events. Not to mention that void mages have a reputation even to this day of powergaming, violating redlines and being an absolute minmaxing blight upon actual RP.

 

Its the 'default' magic type. I play a void mage and even I can admit we are the problem, while taking active steps not to powergame myself and contribute to a healthy server narrative.

[SethWolf 2340]

Man I'm ngl I didn't know you could do all of that cool stuff with void magic. I'm making a void mage next and I'm gunna go buck wild with it.