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As someone who's worked on past maps I've never heard of a map being delayed because of plugins. Admins definitely made a bad call on this as like many people have said, there are no supporting systems to enable farming immersion. Most staff use /god so this will only make it harder for new players to travel the map, and demand that they join some nation or risk starving between roads they don't fully know. LOTC constantly switching between half finished technical systems and ignoring general consensus harms the community and ability for new people to join and old people to return to the server. 

 

Adding timers to mines did not make me want to roleplay black lung, nor will adding spoil times encourage roleplay in the fields. This isn't Cheezi's fault but a discrepancy in the desire to mechanize the server more by a minority of players in hopes to generate more playtime("rp"). I think it will take a continued vocal effort to try and get admins to steer clear from nexus-adjacent plugins. So I encourage people to vocalize their disdain toward the Admins directly, rather than the guy who was forced to do it.

 

To the admins, there's a reason people like scaling. It adds more to the visual experience of understanding the different races and creatures on Lord of the Craft without impeding on people's lore or experience. Making the experience of roleplaying on the roleplay server easier should be a priority, rather than adding new mechanics based on your discretion.

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Resource pits and food chests form the true basis for a system of government.

 

This is just terrible. Hopefully, adding the remaining player base to the staff will fix it. 

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2 hours ago, PrinceJose270 said:


Literally mentioned to keep an open mind to the thought, Maybe they will add salt and preserving barrels to store large amount of food, or be able to make custom cooking that enhances some food so RP food might actually have a benifit, or maybe drinks will also aid in food bars. Its potental, and if its a flop it wouldnt be the first time staff revert a plug in. It's an attempt that has more leeway and the potental for community feedback beyond "I dont like this delete please." 

So Cheez, I do hope the plugin works well. if you need ideas thrown your way hit me up!

oh yeah but this should be done as a package and not released bit by bit, it should be worked on properly if it is actually going to be a thing. what is the purpose of releasing something that requires something else to be good, and not releasing it? admins r dense 

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I forgot to say Orcs need to be able to eat spoiled food for my opinion to be swayed.

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The undead will starve to death. I find this somewhat amusing.

 

Nexus had some interesting workarounds. I do get somewhat tired of these half-measures. Either go the whole way and merge the mechanical and roleplay side of things, or strive to do so, or don't do it at all. I do, however, understand that regarding such a decision, the tech team is the last one to be asked.

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2 hours ago, Borin said:

oh yeah but this should be done as a package and not released bit by bit, it should be worked on properly if it is actually going to be a thing. what is the purpose of releasing something that requires something else to be good, and not releasing it? admins r dense 

Wont Argue too much against this, Even i too think that this should of been paired off with at least 1 thing. Though this is the framework, Likely released to test to make sure it alone can function without bugs (cough vaults almost got destroyed cuz of errors cough) and likely once that is shown branch out as a framework is intended for the other plugins as Its foundation. With what cheez seemed to mentioned that there overhaul for XYZ is sometime after launch. If I had to guess, most players are gonna be living on bread n potatos either way within the first few days. 

As for the whole Admin stuff, I can only assume Daisy is also having their hands full in keeping the already existing plugins from collapising in on themselves like a dying star. And one can hope Other tech like aeso n co are assisting cheez in this project. I can only say is this can be at least tolerable for the moment and see what is cooked up before its all spoiled over. (Im not sorry for the pun)

Either way i'm confident Cheez has big goals. otherwise i dont think he'd take on the project n the burden that comes with it without the confidense or determination to try. Think its better to leave suggestions or ways to try to at least make it improved (better crop quality, food quality, and containers that can prevent or multiply the spoilage time). And if its too much, Admins have full capabilities to remove the plugin like they did with AH and Vortex.

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There's always been this crowd who hates any mechanical change to the game and hardcore rpers which always been the more vocal side, I have always loved that dedication.

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Why do i have to grind for food instead of rping :/ i‘m sorry, it really seems like you put a ton of effort into making this plugin happen, but i feel like it‘s not going to be very fun for the regular player at all.

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I don't mind food spoiling. Thats chill.

 

My preferred outcome is actually that every single player gets access to /god, and it gets disabled when statusing for pvp. It does not hurt the roleplay aspect of this roleplay server and turns food into only a pvp item.

 

But like, Im also just chill with this as is. Food spoiling is aight.

 

 

Edit: Additionally, like many of these plugins, CA races seem not considered! Such as the size plugin, I had mentioned then the possibility of CA's having orc-size limitation(but currently all CA's are stuck at human size unless made from an orc sheet). Or in this food plugin, some CA's that either can eat raw food, or dont have to eat at all but still do for mechanical bonuses, should be able to just eat expired food to compensate. I wouldn't argue generally for an actual boon like this to apply to CA's, but CA's cant exactly just go and do farm roleplay a lot of the time!

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obviously seeing stuff like "it's manageable unless you're an NL or equivalent" doesn't have me thrilled about interacting with whatever this plugin is, it feels extremely neglectful of the fact that people in leadership positions have jobs and IRL obligations that can be difficult to balance with what's supposed to be a hobby. so yeah my bad if I've been a little venomous towards seeing this plugin pushed forward I guess? to be blunt it feels shitty, and that's not even mentioning the profound but unsurprising lack of communication or community feedback on something evidently so controversial, if not even unfavorable by the majority

and I think the lack of organized feedback is attributable to the fact that there's been no coherent reasoning for this plugin in the first place, and the best players have right now to speculate on is screenshots being passed around from discord and in-game conversations and word-of-mouth. there's no direct, tech-side messaging on 


1. the purpose of the plugin
2. what it hopes to accomplish (this especially)

maybe this stuff worked when we were all 12 and in middleschool but I'm 22 and would rlly like to just use this server as a creative outlet, as would most other people. there's zero reason this couldn't have just been a custom food recipe plugin divorced from vanilla foods, and if you don't confidently believe that people would interact with it were this the case, then it's not a very good plugin

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Yall make me sick especially primnyaquorum.

 

First off there is nothing stopping you from integrating game mechanics into roleplay. “Hahaha i’m a mage with a magic circlejerk clique we shouldn’t have to play the game or interact with it, we should not have to LOOK at any thing to do with the block game… God, my 100 st items and alchemy resources buried 100 blocks underground behind 20 iron doors sure is immersive… I need everything handed to me with 0 effort because i sure did not roleplay my characters progression”

 

The mechanical standard should be brought back so you infidels can be quelled. It is absolutely tiring when any time a plugin is added to the server about 20 people who probably log on for a combined total of 10 hours a week and will never, ever interact with any part of the game outside of their underground reject cave try to drag any feature down, simply because it is a mechanic. 

 

This server started with mcmmo and factions plugins but here we are debasing a plugin that adds food realism. Why? Because “my character is basically god they shouldn’t have to eat, hahah” like come on bro.  You aren’t going to need to sprint anywhere anyway you’re going to be not moving sitting on a chair doing slice of life rp even though you’re a undead superhuman who wants to destroy the world or something.

 

Is this the most amazing plugin on planet earth that revolutionizes roleplay? Not really, but is it necessarily bad? No. In fact we survived an entire map with this style plugin with very little complaints people just grew more food, this even has features specifically to placate people who god forbid have to play the game they purchased.  At the very least food scarcity should help create an economy which the prior map severely lacked due to every feature being removed from the game due to the vocal minority crying.

 

And you wonder why there is no major development ongoing on the server? Because some cliqued up pea brain story team circle jerkers moan all day, who will inevitably spam report on my post because their real life sucks so bad they spend more time on erp discord channels then playing the server they claim to love. Instead of keeping the game alive we want to post massive essays nobody will ever read, gatekeep magic because it’s the only thing in their lives that makes them feel special because in real life they’re rejects.

 

Meanwhile some people actually want to play the game so i applaud this effort and encourage more plugins to be developed. The story team should be completely ignored and their wishes rejected, allow them to post on the forums to their hearts content as i cannot remember the last time they actually did their job of facilitating roleplay. 

 

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7 hours ago, Priceflash said:

Yall make me sick especially primnyaquorum.

 

First off there is nothing stopping you from integrating game mechanics into roleplay. “Hahaha i’m a mage with a magic circlejerk clique we shouldn’t have to play the game or interact with it, we should not have to LOOK at any thing to do with the block game… God, my 100 st items and alchemy resources buried 100 blocks underground behind 20 iron doors sure is immersive… I need everything handed to me with 0 effort because i sure did not roleplay my characters progression”

 

The mechanical standard should be brought back so you infidels can be quelled. It is absolutely tiring when any time a plugin is added to the server about 20 people who probably log on for a combined total of 10 hours a week and will never, ever interact with any part of the game outside of their underground reject cave try to drag any feature down, simply because it is a mechanic. 

 

This server started with mcmmo and factions plugins but here we are debasing a plugin that adds food realism. Why? Because “my character is basically god they shouldn’t have to eat, hahah” like come on bro.  You aren’t going to need to sprint anywhere anyway you’re going to be not moving sitting on a chair doing slice of life rp even though you’re a undead superhuman who wants to destroy the world or something.

 

Is this the most amazing plugin on planet earth that revolutionizes roleplay? Not really, but is it necessarily bad? No. In fact we survived an entire map with this style plugin with very little complaints people just grew more food, this even has features specifically to placate people who god forbid have to play the game they purchased.  At the very least food scarcity should help create an economy which the prior map severely lacked due to every feature being removed from the game due to the vocal minority crying.

 

And you wonder why there is no major development ongoing on the server? Because some cliqued up pea brain story team circle jerkers moan all day, who will inevitably spam report on my post because their real life sucks so bad they spend more time on erp discord channels then playing the server they claim to love. Instead of keeping the game alive we want to post massive essays nobody will ever read, gatekeep magic because it’s the only thing in their lives that makes them feel special because in real life they’re rejects.

 

Meanwhile some people actually want to play the game so i applaud this effort and encourage more plugins to be developed. The story team should be completely ignored and their wishes rejected, allow them to post on the forums to their hearts content as i cannot remember the last time they actually did their job of facilitating roleplay. 

 

holy ad hominem
"u have no life so you can't have an opinion" brother have you ever heard of logic?
the plugin adds nothing but an extra step, an inconvenience. why would it matter if food rots or no? who is out there actively RPing eating bread from idk, 50 years ago? 

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