Asulon Rules, ( Aegis 2.0 )

[CommanderCaleb 34]

I'm just constantly refreshing this page for answers, lol.

[Bastion 7]

I think the war rules will work great. People are worried about meta, but it's against the rules. If obvious meta is displayed, it would be dealt with. Also, players will discuss the rules of engagement with each other, so these rules will also work well because they can fit each unique situation.

The thing I'm most curious about is,

When you are killed by another player you cannot return to the place you died for another 20 Minutes and you permanently forget all the moments leading up to your death. This Includes

Names

Faces

Locations

People

Information obtained

I don't fully understand this. We lose basically all memories leading up to our death? Isn't that essentially perma death?

[shiftnative 3103]

I think the war rules will work great. People are worried about meta, but it's against the rules. If obvious meta is displayed, it would be dealt with. Also, players will discuss the rules of engagement with each other, so these rules will also work well because they can fit each unique situation.

The thing I'm most curious about is,

I don't fully understand this. We lose basically all memories leading up to our death? Isn't that essentially perma death?

Only what has happened 20 minutes prior to death

[BannanaToYou 196]

Tnt cannons wouldn't work. That would make TnT work above grounds. Meaning people who got banned for going out with a bang etc. Could really truly go out with an insane bang. Tnt cannons can only shoot in one line too so, kinda annoying.

[Samson Option 9652]

GM's would need to watch each looting, and giving people the ability to do it whenever they want = lots of work for GM's

You have allowed for 1/5 items to be taken from chests, so then make that the rule for undisclosed pillaging when the GM's allow the single person to be able to loot non-lwc chests?

[Bastion 7]

Only what has happened 20 minutes prior to death

Ah I see. Does this also apply if you die some other way besides being murdered? I'm assuming it does. I suggest this:

"If you die, or are killed, you are not allowed to return to the location of your death for the following twenty minutes. And, you permanently forget the previous twenty minutes leading up to your death. This includes.. "

There are a few other typos' and confusing language, (I suggest you include bullets or dashes) but all in all, I think it looks good. The rules are much more descriptive, and applicable, and they feel more 'mature' in general. Nice job :D

[Friendly Guy 223]

Interesting...

*Strokes Fluffy white cat In Lap*

Funny i was peting my dog with my feet when i read this :)

[Kickstarted and Running 965]

I have to partly agree with Gaius, and Shift on this. I understand that it needs to be known before hand so people are actually there in the city being "attacked", but for the city to use this knowledge to fortify locations that are not normally fortified would be meta, such as what happened in the "Ivrae" situation. I think that after the war is officially declared in OOC that a GM should be present to avoid any Meta actions taken on the defending side, and that normal routine and guidelines of the city gaurds should be established before hand, such as how many people are normally at the gate? or on the walls? or watching the city via on foot in the city etc.

I think that the defenders definitely need to know before hand because there are times when only like 3 out of 30 people are on for that city, and they need to know they need to be on OOC, but having a gm there with the afore mentioned guard outlining of duties should help aleviate most of the possible Meta that could happen based on the OOC information.

so bullet points

• defenders need to know before hand
• defenders need an outlined guard/army/officials activity log of normal day to day activities to avoid meta

Yeah, yeah, I have witnessed having 3/30 people active in a siege that was technically just a powergame slaughtor *coughLunavaracough* ohh, bad one. But seriously, you shouldn't be able to attack unless you can be sure that the fight will be semifair, such as a proper amount of defenders to attackers, and maybe equipment so it's not a slaughtor.

EDIT;: Also, I would like to know what you consider swearing, because it's part of people characters to say things like "Youn bloody arse!" or "Damn you!" and such. I do agree things like f*** and the c word and certain words are unacceptable, but I think moderate swears like arse should be ok. I mean c'mon, we can't have countless refined villians, that would make common bandits orriginal! :)

[Pepernoot 51]

Gaius, you'll have to take timezones into account.

Imaging waking up, logging in to lotc, and find Nuremberg in ruins, with almost everything looted? A few Sariants might have been online, but as most of them are American, some Europeans were able to just walk into the city and loot it.

Sounds fun? I don't think so.

[Trouvo 205]

Ah I see. Does this also apply if you die some other way besides being murdered? I'm assuming it does. I suggest this:

"If you die, or are killed, you are not allowed to return to the location of your death for the following twenty minutes. And, you permanently forget the previous twenty minutes leading up to your death. This includes.. "

There are a few other typos' and confusing language, (I suggest you include bullets or dashes) but all in all, I think it looks good. The rules are much more descriptive, and applicable, and they feel more 'mature' in general. Nice job :D

i think there is one fault in this, for example if a guard was killed and he has been a guard for more than one full mc day(20min) then he would naturally return to his job.

EDIT;: Also, I would like to know what you consider swearing, because it's part of people characters to say things like "Youn bloody arse!" or "Damn you!" and such. I do agree things like f*** and the c word and certain words are unacceptable, but I think moderate swears like arse should be ok. I mean c'mon, we can't have countless refined villians, that would make common bandits orriginal! :)

IC swearing is still allowed...but over use is still considered harassment or not needed

[AllenTheGreat 286]

Hopefully, this being the internet and I am unable to proclaim your intent, you aren't suggesting that I don't have a life to deal with likewise. As I believe I stated, if need be, I can quote, I suggested that the rule I objected with be altered in terms of skirmish and pillaging.

Skirmishing is on an open field, if no one's there, you're just sitting in the middle of a field doing nothing.

Why Pillaging? Because cprivate will protect chests, GMs can be alert if the leader of the other nation or guild, etc. did actually proclaim the pillage possible. If the GM has no information pertaining, well then he won't be opening said chests and this pillage will have more roleplay weight than item count :)

The GM could take a quick look at the War Forums, and see that the pillage was scheduled and agreed to, then unlock the chest

Knowingly or unknowingly plagiarizing any application, in part, or in full, will result in a forum ban.

*coughAlotOf"Parents-killed-by-orc"NeedsToBeCheckedcough*

EDIT:

'The Disussion of any real life religous beliefs is strictly prohibited'.

I reslly don't think this should be a rule, discussion of religion should be permitted, as long as it in no way offends someone. Saying 'I believe in God, and that he made the world etc' Should be allowed, but 'God isn't real! Stupid religion!' should be what isn't allowed...

^ Nobody take the quote there offensively please. >.>

I believe it means discussing actual religions In-Game, where they don't exist. Not on the Off-Topic Discussion Forums and TS.

[Danny 2232]

'The Disussion of any real life religous beliefs is strictly prohibited'.

I reslly don't think this should be a rule, discussion of religion should be permitted, as long as it in no way offends someone. Saying 'I believe in God, and that he made the world etc' Should be allowed, but 'God isn't real! Stupid religion!' should be what isn't allowed...

^ Nobody take the quote there offensively please. >.>

[CommanderCaleb 34]

'The Disussion of any real life religous beliefs is strictly prohibited'.

I reslly don't think this should be a rule, discussion of religion should be permitted, as long as it in no way offends someone. Saying 'I believe in God, and that he made the world etc' Should be allowed, but 'God isn't real! Stupid religion!' should be what isn't allowed...

^ Nobody take the quote there offensively please. >.>

I agree!

[Song Druid 1486]

Hi. Cybering rule? Get rid of it. Thanx!

[Pepernoot 51]

'The Disussion of any real life religous beliefs is strictly prohibited'.

I reslly don't think this should be a rule, discussion of religion should be permitted, as long as it in no way offends someone. Saying 'I believe in God, and that he made the world etc' Should be allowed, but 'God isn't real! Stupid religion!' should be what isn't allowed...

^ Nobody take the quote there offensively please. >.>

The rule is about discussing RL religions IC. If people are discussing religion IC it's allowed of course, as long as they don't use real life religions (No references to Jesus, Muhammed and they bro's), as that is using OOC information ingame. Those people have never lived, and/or the books have never been written in the world of Aegis/Asulon.

(Oh, and Danny I'm offended by you quoting "I believe in God...", please remove that asap ;) )