Breaking the Ice

[mylimo7 409]

((I read your lore on the armor, full of posts about many different Dwarves 'examining' the armor the coming to a conclusion, "hey this magical mask of the Teutons is apparently like our masks so let's just produce sone Dwarven masks!" unless you have a magic app for Rune Smithing ten I don't see how you could possibly find out the technology of the Magic Armor of the Teutons by Mages.

[Zezimus 1523]

((I read your lore on the armor, full of posts about many different Dwarves 'examining' the armor the coming to a conclusion, "hey this magical mask of the Teutons is apparently like our masks so let's just produce sone Dwarven masks!" unless you have a magic app for Rune Smithing ten I don't see how you could possibly find out the technology of the Magic Armor of the Teutons by Mages.

((We were told of the magical properties in the armour by former Teutons who somehow learnt about the stones. Just because the armour is 'magical' it doesn't mean there aren't parts to it that would work through engineering. No, we did not say it is anything like we have made before, we merely have Dwarves who can understand the technology and attempt to replicate it. The armour we have made has nothing magical about it although it may do in the future, since we have a number of Dwarven mages and through them, a number of links to the mages guild.))

[MajesticOwyn 334]

((I read your lore on the armor, full of posts about many different Dwarves 'examining' the armor the coming to a conclusion, "hey this magical mask of the Teutons is apparently like our masks so let's just produce sone Dwarven masks!" unless you have a magic app for Rune Smithing ten I don't see how you could possibly find out the technology of the Magic Armor of the Teutons by Mages.

((I'd like to say that they didn't compare the Teuton to their mask, they compared it to another mask that was made by Mirtok during the plague. It is similar in design and it was only logical to assume that he based the Teuton masks off this technology. They had a mask and the manual to use, operate, and care for it.

I was told that the runes in the armor were used to make it weightless, all this comes from Order members that have since left. Never has the magic been said to make the mask or the entire suit work, it's just to compensate for the immense size and weight of their suits.))

((so wait, you are telling me that you created your own armor that is replicated from the Teutons armor with the example of a torn and blooded set from a soldier twice Thr size of dwarves? You completely destroyed the time these people took for these in so little time. I am sorry but I find this extremely lame. The armor itself took months in RL and years IC to create and you make sets for the entire army of the dwarves in 2 days. The armor also needs orbs to work that can only be found in Hanseti. I am frown upon this horrible RP.

And Skippy. .

Please stop with the damn posts, "ohhh, we're going to win," or "we beat you losers". I see this on every damn war claim your in..

((There is plenty of legitimate role play when it comes to this and so we looked at the best way to enter Hanseti and end the Order. I would like to clarify some things. The armor was not torn or bloodied or anything of the sort, it was a perfect pristine suit that was delivered to Zezimus. As you can see both the dwarves and us have done a lot of work both in-game and on the forums to make sure that these suits are legitimate. The original suits took so long because they were new technology and also have many features that ours don't.Ours took less time as we had both a suit and a gas mask to work upon, allowing the dwarves to reverse engineer it effectively. They made light versions that don't require the weight reducing stones, they remain airtight and have a replicated filter system (As I said, from two pieces of technology that Mirtok had designed.)

I find it disappointing that you would call the role play horrible when so much work has been put into it both IC and out of game. It has personally led to hours of role play for my group. There seems to be no other way to enter Hanseti, we found a way to get in. Each of us has a different reason for this and it's really interesting when you get down to the base of things, the people involved.))

((I also don't see how large boats can fit through that icy river. Longboats would break by the ice.

((I don't see how the boat they use to transport prisoners to the island can get through. As they said, icebreakers and longboats.))

[Nefarious Aus Shitpost 891]

((I also don't see how large boats can fit through that icy river. Longboats would break by the ice.

[[ I wasn't even aware we had longboats. We have an icebreaker, a ship-of-the-line and a single longboat. Please, stop posting until you actually KNOW what is going on. ]]

[Hiebe 2493]

(Knew this was going to turn into an occ fit fest. Oh well we rped it )

[Zezimus 1523]

I am ashamed Zezimus. You didn't count the Bahr clan in? Tsk tsk tsk. []

((Sorry Heero, I'm trying not to get too many allies involved in this and also, crafting the armour for an Orc would be well, particularly difficult. :P))

[zortjr 32]

((Hey, Just letting everyone know that I will have the lore for the armor done by today. I just woke up and need to go to class but it should be finished around 3-4 est. Sorry for the inconvenience.))

[cmf95 39]

*looks at the war claim posted onto the wall of his home*

Looks like me bruders and I be goin ta war!

[Samson Option 9652]

[And this is where I enter in a dazed and confused state...

I am in no way being biased and trying to 'defend' the Teutons. I want to acquire this: If the Teutons devised their suits from the Dervas Runes [which is actually RPly possible as the Ancient Hanseti and Dervas were known to each other], how are the Dwarves using Dervas Runes when they have not the knowledge. I was insulted behind my back about my writing the Rune Lore, hence I allowed Tyrion to go ahead. That doesnt mean go ahead with what I wrote, but with his entirely different system. I am just curious as I am severely confused.]

[Zezimus 1523]

[And this is where I enter in a dazed and confused state...

I am in no way being biased and trying to 'defend' the Teutons. I want to acquire this: If the Teutons devised their suits from the Dervas Runes [which is actually RPly possible as the Ancient Hanseti and Dervas were known to each other], how are the Dwarves using Dervas Runes when they have not the knowledge. I was insulted behind my back about my writing the Rune Lore, hence I allowed Tyrion to go ahead. That doesnt mean go ahead with what I wrote, but with his entirely different system. I am just curious as I am severely confused.]

((If you look at Majestic's post, you'll see why we are not using the runes at this time. The runes were only said to deal with the weight of the armour and so we've made a lighter version of it. Depending on how our tests go, we may have the original armour studied by mages. However, as of yet, we know not OOCly or ICly whether these runes are actually needed for anything more than the weight and we've never been told otherwise by former members of the Teutonic Order. This thread gives details as to how the armour is being constructed.

http://www.lordofthecraft.net/forum/index.php?/topic/67504-reconstructing-the-armour/

Also, I'm not too familiar with either of the systems of rune lore as I wasn't with the Dwarves at the time but I do believe that if the armour was given its magical properties through anything more than these stones, our mages would have known that.))

[DoubleDeetz (Fomsil) 237]

*Fomsil takes a large gulp of his mug of ale and smirks with Ale froth across his beard.

Tis will be a fine battle!

[Arkelos 1027]

[[Kyral is allowed to go, yes yes?]]

[Heero 4092]

((I read your lore on the armor, full of posts about many different Dwarves 'examining' the armor the coming to a conclusion, "hey this magical mask of the Teutons is apparently like our masks so let's just produce sone Dwarven masks!" unless you have a magic app for Rune Smithing ten I don't see how you could possibly find out the technology of the Magic Armor of the Teutons by Mages.

Oh really now? Last I checked, I saw no members of the Tuetonic Order on the accepted Mage's list. Let alone the Enchanter section. I would just be delighted to find out how it's

magical

when you lack the mages to do such a thing.[]

((Sorry Heero, I'm trying not to get too many allies involved in this and also, crafting the armour for an Orc would be well, particularly difficult. :P))

Fine. So be it. Atleast I still have Dorry Irongut. ;P []

[Destroyer_Bravo 1054]

Ellsia shrugs, only caring for the armor and the ability to test it.

(( And I remember vividly non-magical non-Space Marine TAC masks that were pretty much everywhere... ))

[Sargeblub 78]

((The stones were enchanted by a Mage, I believe his name was Ambros. When I was still in the Order I was one of the ones who helped kidnap him. And, I believe only the stones are magic, the armor is just armor.))