Vote On The Way Combat Should Work!

[Rhia 936]

The orcs bring a rather valid point to the table. You rarely see an Orc - Orc ban/strike report and all of the orcs get along with each other oocly. I don't think you could really say that for any other "major race".

[Death Reaper 37]

I declare that default-RP or Gaius would be the best choice, if PVP is selected... I do not want to see Anthos full of one-sided PVP fights, a group of good PVP'ers would form and make almost all fights one-sided... Also Oren wouldn't improve at all.

[Cyndikate 2303]

I wish these admins went through with this instead of asking the community what they want. Obviously they wont give new things out. They'll cry and whine for two weeks, make petty leaving posts and come back in two weeks. But eventually they'll shut up and adapt.

Like the purge.

These are times where you have to screw what the community thinks and choose whats best for this server.

[Lago 2572]

The problem with three options is that it splits the vote. I'd have a second choice option on the poll (requiring restarting it), which allows an option to be eliminated.

[Tythus 1307]

I have been doing tons of all-nighters, almost no players on during the night-shift usually.(I consider 30-45 none.)

We have far more players who can't be on every day etc and all they need to vote on here is briefly login and vote so it's easy enough anyway.

[Death Reaper 37]

We have far more players who can't be on every day etc and all they need to vote on here is briefly login and vote so it's easy enough anyway.

What system did they use in Aegis?

[Roxforbraynz 251]

Honestly, my view on the whole thing? PvP as default.

 

While you can argue that it's a bad thing, what you're doing is only pointing out it's faults. Honestly, this argument could be compared to the argument that video games are bad. Going for PvP as default will not affect anything other than people who want to have random conflict, or brew conflict due to their own IC actions, such as insulting the White Roses openly. You can argue that you will be victimized, but let me put it in perspective here; I primarily play two peaceful characters. I tread carefully and actually watch what I say to certain people and I rarely get into any fights. I don't think this will change no matter what we go with as the default, but I can say that it will affect very little. There's so much more you can do than fight. If you argue about losing your items, then try to never carry anything other than what you absolutely need such as a few prop items and some food, or keep spare items stored away in a chest for when you do lose them. I myself have about five spare wooden hoes for my Druid, just in case. Also, most of the arguments I see here act like fighting RP is the only thing you can do here. There is so much more that you can do if you put your mind to it!

 

Now focusing on just fighting, think. This will drastically reduce the amount of OOC bickering that goes on during fights and greatly reduce the amount of time a fight takes so you won't spend one third of your time online fighting and actually let you get around to non-fighting RP. Even then, if you enjoy RP fights, you can still RP fight with people you enjoy RP fighting with. There's nothing saying that you can't. This is going to just change it so that the OOC complaint-fests that happen from random conflicts doesn't happen. And if you want my opinion, that is a great thing as it means much less OOC drama, which I personally loathe.

 

Now as for villains, you can always ask the person before you commit to trying to kill them. If they don't want to RP the fight, just keep on walking to find your next target. You might soon come across someone who would like to RP fight and have a delightful little session.

 

Really, the server will only benefit from having PvP be the default for fights. If you think otherwise, then you might be ignoring the bigger picture here.

 

And one last thing, if you try to bash me for being a PvP lover... I dislike PvP on LotC as much as the next person, but I can clearly see that this will only benefit the server!

[Dyn 149]

What system did they use in Aegis?

PVP, it was practically all we had at the time. But people think putting PvP will bring us back to those times. We simply had a friendly community, not seventeen guilds all against eachother or people constantly waging racial wars and then getting angry about if. I would've thought the orc/dwarf conflict would've made that clear, but I guess not. Players have been at eachothers throats, but I don't think that'll change if we use a different paintbrush.

[Death Reaper 37]

PVP, it was practically all we had at the time. But people think putting PvP will bring us back to those times. We simply had a friendly community, not seventeen guilds all against eachother or people constantly waging racial wars and then getting angry about if. I would've thought the orc/dwarf conflict would've made that clear, but I guess not. Players have been at eachothers throats, but I don't think that'll change if we use a different paintbrush.

If we can make it like so, I am sure people would gladly vote for PVP.

[Silevon 497]

Is this really what we have degraded to? You're all just saying you have the server's best interest at heart, while completely ignoring the other side's points. It's rather childish on both sides. I don't really care how this turns out, just stop bickering.

I'm not sure who that was directed at, but Gaius and Blindmind have made some excellent points but no one has made an attempt to respond to them.

[SirSnowMan 318]

Does anyone know when the final decision will be?

[Dyn 149]

Does anyone know when the final decision will be?

I believe at the end of the week, on Friday.

[Cyndikate 2303]

Just like to note, if you run mc at 10 FPS, its very likely that your computer cant run mc anyway. This is coming from someone who's computer runs slower than a chrome book

I think they need to consider WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, the vote clearly states they want rp default.

Perhaps a balance is needed, keep rp default, but allow people to use the pvp plugins when there out if they want

Sometimes what the community wants isnt whats best for the server. They asked for less ic and ooc conflict, they ask for ic fear, they asked for less combat oriented players, and when a choice is given to them, they voted for the very thing thats caused the server nothing but problems for the past 6 months.

Long story short, the community doesnt know what they want.

[Solaba 144]

I think they need to consider WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS, the vote clearly states they want rp default.

Perhaps a balance is needed, keep rp default, but allow people to use the pvp plugins when there out if they want

Not quite. The poll doesn't mean that it necessarily won and I haven't seen a valid point by anyone who does want RP still as default and hasn't been answered with a solid answer by how PvP default is not bad.

[Aelu / Rel (Combustionary) 1540]

Just like to note, if you run mc at 10 FPS, its very likely that your computer cant run mc anyway. This is coming from someone who's computer runs slower than a chrome book

 

 

So a computer than can run MC at 10 fps... can't run MC? You're contradicting yourself.

 

Sometimes what the community wants isnt whats best for the server. They asked for less ic and ooc conflict, they ask for ic fear, they asked for less combat oriented players, and when a choice is given to them, they voted for the very thing thats caused the server nothing but problems for the past 6 months.

 

The fact that people want to win is what causes issues. PvP will just cause ooc hatred between the groups that are good at pvp, and those that are not.

Long story short, the community doesnt know what they want.

How so? I think it's fairly obvious a lot of us want RP.