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  1. The new map is very pretty!

  2. As a former NL, there is definitely a need for some kind of repercussions for when your character is killed. My rule of thumb was that if there had been sufficient RP and if it was of good quality, that I would PK and I was actually going to PK once when I was captured (though my captives decided to let me go). I always refused to PK not only as NL, but in general, when the RP was just qualitatively muck - little to no effort put in, memey, etc. Tldr; NL's should have to PK provided that the RP lead up and the quality of RP surrounding the occasion, was of a good standard. (Yes, 'good standard' is more of a subjective thing, but we all recognize good effort)
  3. It is a beautiful Sunday evening.

  4. Just hit Diamond on League, Hallelujah!

  5. Assalamualaikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh!
  6. It's been over two weeks since my Ban Appeal was claimed :(

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    2. Gavin_

      Gavin_

      @Moribundity Yeah, I mean idk why it can take so long..

    3. Widu

      Widu

      Tiocfaidh ár lá

    4. Morigung-oog

      Morigung-oog

      Patience, young padawan. Read old ban appeals. Its what I do to pass the time sometimes. idk if the really funny ones are still up tho.

  7. Anyone else still waiting on flowers? cope :(

  8. First attempt at a Wonderdraft Map, any and all advice or suggestions welcome!
     

    https://imgur.com/a/UkDMArv

    1. _RoyalCrafter_

      _RoyalCrafter_

      Looks great! I love the names. One piece of feedback I would give is to not have  forests on each side of a mountain range due to the Rain Shadow effect, basically it means that mountains usually get rain on one side and block it from reaching the other causing a more desert area. That being said, you might have your own fantasy environment which would explain your map. Keep on mapping :D

    2. Gavin_

      Gavin_

      @VerminHunter Ah, did not know about this! Thank you though :)

  9. And now we wait

    1. Mister_Gavin

      Mister_Gavin

      Rooting for my fellow Gavin and Brother in Christ.

       

      "Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen."

      Ephesians 4:29

       

      “Bear with each other and forgive one another if any of you has a grievance against someone. Forgive as the Lord forgave you.”

      Colossians 3:13

       

      Free and Forgive the homie.

    2. Gavin_

      Gavin_

      Gaviscon sounds good, but Gavisback? 😍

  10. Yo can I still forum rp

    1. Ibn Khaldun

      Ibn Khaldun

      Yes sir, start one and I'll join.

  11. The inhumanity!

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    2. sami03

      sami03

      Oof.. wonder what made him post that

    3. Gavin_

      Gavin_

      @sami03 Ain't that the million dollar question! 

    4. Gloonkey

      Gloonkey

      oh for fucks sake even i'm not this much of a gamer

  12. Where would I go to get a custom map made?

    1. Privet

      Privet

      scroll to forms, staff services, map art

    2. rukio

      rukio

      If you mean an actual map I think Haense used to have people who made cute custom ones. Unsure if they still do or if the person still even plays. Twitter might be a good place to look for artists tho

    3. Xarkly

      Xarkly

      If you mean artistic maps, I've recently started doing top downs and isometrics for D&D campaigns.

  13. God Rest the Queen, God Save the King.

  14. How do we discourage main character syndrome on lotc? 

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    2. Javert

      Javert

      Enforce a system where you only have a certain amount of lives. If you die too much, both in pvp and crp, you must pk. Stops people from being heroic real quick

    3. Laeonathan

      Laeonathan

      Honestly if you don't push it and don't do silly things your characters barely die. Like, none of my characters ever died - besides those I actively sent into their own death.

       

      But that's because my characters value their own life and don't raise the sword thinking they can win alone against two people. No smart person would take up a fight against an enemy without outnumbering them in a world where frost witches, powerful mages, undead and other kinds of creature commonly run around.

    4. Your Favorite Impure

      Your Favorite Impure

      Yea, what @Laeonathan said pretty much sums it up

  15. The Way of Lomahnihsm _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Called are we, to the sublime. Infinite, is our potential, and to overcome, is our charge. It is the conviction of our Silver Soul’s that will lead us higher. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Table of Contents Purity Lomahnihst Rites _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Purity What is Purity? There have been many interpretations offered regarding the nature of Purity, though there has yet to be a definitive answer given, from which we can teach our youth and go forth. I shall, in this treatise, pronounce the ultimate interpretation, if my analysis of what Larihei Lomahnih is, holds. If indeed, as I have previously argued, Larihei, is of divine nature, and our souls are that of thilln, then Purity is a metaphysical construct- it is not something which can be empirically studied, nor can it be weighed, nor can it be counted. Though, being Pure demands that you belong to the category of Mali’aheral, for it is only those who have souls of silver. Historically, the question “Thilln ito nae’leh?” has been premised upon two things; Blood and Mind. Are you of Pure Mali’aheral lineage? And do you subscribe to the teachings of Larihei - maehr’sae hiylun’ehya. This is premised correctly - being of Pure lineage and being of Pure mind are necessary to one being Pure. However, Purity in and of, by definition, cannot just be those two things. Rather, Purity is the condition of one’s soul. Following maehr’sae hiylun’ehya provides us with many benefits. Firstly, it is the best philosophy by which to live our lives. Secondly, and more importantly, it is what maintains the thilln of our soul. It is what keeps it thilln. The Impure of the world do not live by our philosophy, as such their calling towards perfection - towards Larihei is diminished. They care not for her nor our ancient ways. As a Mali’aheral slowly begins to withdraw from our lifestyle, they grow more and more accustomed to lesser ways and vices. Whereas when one resides amongst Pure kin, pursuing a Pure life, one's Silver Soul is in its Purest and healthiest state. Given the immaterial nature of the Soul, its ‘thilln-ness’, is not observable or knowable to us, though when our fates are decided at the end of our lives, it is The Silver Maiden alone, who will see us for what we are, whether we have lived a life worthy of being graced by Her presence. To be Pure, is to have an untarnished Silver Soul. Purity then, is the endeavor to maintain the Thilln of one’s Soul. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Lomahnihst Rites Given the utmost importance of maintaining all aspects of our Purity; The Soul, The Mind and The Body, it is important from youth, that we engage with a culture that emphasizes these very things. As such, I have devised several Rites which all Lomahnihsts are obligated and required to undergo - to both maintain their Purity and to continue to live out a life of Purity. The Rite of Sanctification Upon reaching adulthood, all Lomahnihsts shall undergo The Rite of Sanctification, to be observed by their fellow Society members. This Rite is a requirement for all expectant Avernan, wherein following a ceremony, they shall be submerged in pools of Gold, effectively placing them in a state of ‘renewal’. As Larihei offered the gift of rebirth to our ancestors, we shall offer all initiates the ability to cleanse themselves of previous transgressions against the Lomahnih way. This Rite shall conclude the initiation of the Avernan as full members of The Silver Society of Larihei Lomahnih. The Rite of Marriage As one meanders throughout life, having come of age, one naturally has the urge to create a family - to continue the ancient legacy of one's ancestors. It is without question that the familial unit is the fundamental unity within our blessed society. Therefore, both culturally and civilly, one is obligated to continue our way of life, and so when two wish to become one, they shall be wed in ceremony, before their peers, receiving the pools of Gold together, serving as both a renewal of their promise to be pure, and as a promise now to each other. The Rite of Dying To die, is a consequence of having lived, and as one nears the end of ones life, the last act of purification is granted. A ceremony, presided over by the Masaneyir, and attended by the family of the one who’s time has come to an end, shall be held wherein they shall be purified once more, by the blessed waters. Then, their bodies shall be cremated and laid to rest within the crypts of our ancestors. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Maehr’sae Hiylun’ehya Masaneyir Braxus Ni’leya
  16. I feel like a bot too sometimes :(

  17. The Lomahnihst Tradition _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ It was in Great Caverns deep, that the greatest bounty of the ‘thill would be found. Laden in pools of Gold, were callings of the divine, a means to a greater purpose. A higher way to live, granted to us by the Silver Maiden. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Table of Contents Divinity Apotheosis Haelun _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Divinity Mali’thill do not hold the view that there is no deity, but rather that it is irrational to worship an invisible deity. Furthermore, Mali’thill believe in the existence of a creator, and so the idea of a deific figure is not one of controversy. Reason speaks to another tradition of the Mali’thill, that of worship and veneration. Though today, we shun the worshiping of deities, this perhaps, was not always so. As a son of the Mother of Thilln, I hold that Larihei Lomahnih is not merely mortal, but of higher origin. I do not hold this lightly, nor have I reached this conclusion with ease. I shall lay out my reasoning for this belief here in what I consider to be feats of divinity. A painting depicting Larihei amongst the heavens Foresight Larihei was Malin’s most senior advisor, having aided him greatly in both the defeat of Iblees and in the founding of his Kingdom, and it was she who warned him of the impending danger of the Word Altars, which eventually led to the warping of forests and the dangerous magics of the Fae. The forests would grow wild and feral, killing many elves. Malin, horrified at this, outlawed and buried deep, these Aspectic altars of power. Creation It was Larihei, already bearing the physical and mental characteristics of a Mali’aheral - though they did not yet exist, who led our ancestors to the Golden Pools, where they would eventually become the first of the Mali’aheral - reborn in the image and likeness of Larihei Lomahnih. Gifts Larihei gave to the Mali’aheral, many great gifts. The most senior of these gifts were received by the Mali’aheral upon their bathing in the pools - their Silver Soul. Secondary to this, were the powers of the Void. Thirdly, she gave to our ancestors, the very code and philosophy which guides us still, to this day, after millenia - maehr’sae hiylun’ehya. Sacrifice It was the mother of Thilln who sacrificed her mortality - her physical and worldly presence, in the creation of the portals which would save our kin from certain doom, leaving behind the mortal plane - separating herself from her children, so that they may live. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Apotheosis Lomal the traitor led an assault upon Larihei and her flock, as such the mother of thilln ordered her kin to retreat, not wanting her children to suffer more bloodshed. She created for them, a portal to a new world, where they would be safe from Lomal and his mutants. Half of her children followed, the other remained behind, though Larihei was not to be found in this new realm - she had vanished. A painting depicting Larihei’s apotheosis Larihei had suffered enough. She had fulfilled her worldly purpose, her flock were safe and had her teachings to live by - it was her time now, to return to the Creator, one of his finest instruments, a divine extension of Purity, Perfection - Grief. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Haelun In her creation of the Mali’aheral Larihei wept, grief stricken - for in their endeavor of attaining perfection, her children would suffer the ills of a lesser world. A painting depicting Larihei weeping Larihei, kae'len cruan sulier, ay'kae vallumer'ehya Larihei, Behold my pain, and weep for me Elihnsil, Elberr, kina'ehya, The Spear, The Bow, and death, laean kae wynne myumiereyae. these bring me no joy. ay'nae'leh sirame k' taliiyhe, ay'elcihil k' cruare for your honor I bleed, for the city I suffer il'iylkarim, mirueln thill'ehya ito kae'leh With this day, I am of silver and red. This is the Ancient Creed of the Sillumiran - the Weeping Blades of Haelun’or, invoking Larihei’s attention to their suffering - a mother to weep for the losses she would endure. A mother is one who creates, who gives birth to new life. A mother is one who suffers greatly, so that her children may live a better life. Larihei, creator of Blessed Haelun’or, she who gave birth to elMali’thill is the eternal mother, and to her we owe our lives - to her, we give praise and worship, for without her, we are nothing. When at last, we are fated to meet our end, as Larihei embraced us when we emerged from the Golden Pools, born anew, she will embrace our Silver Souls when we are relinquished from our mortal coil. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Maehr’sae Hiylun’ehya Masaneyir Braxus Ni’leya
  18. The Silver Society of Larihei Lomahnih Est. 3rd of The Amber Cold, Year 85 - S.A _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The denizens of Malinor brought fire and ruin to the homes of the Mali’thill. Violence became the language of those Mali who were bitter and jealous, and they were quick to greet their Silver cousins. Thus the path became clear - it would be an Exodus of the Thilln, that would seal the fate of Larihei’s flock. No more, would they hail Malin, No longer would they suffer the ills of Malinor. The age of Silver had begun. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Table of Contents To Begin Hierarchy Values Larihei Lomahnih To Depart _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ To Begin The Genesis of the Mali’thill begins with one, Larihei Lomahnih. It was her thirst for knowledge, her discontent with stagnation, and the want to better the lives of her people, that led her to strife with Malin and into the Great Caverns. It would be within these rough, cold and damp caves, that Larihei and her flock would discover pools of Magegold - The Golden Pools, and it would be within these pools, that Larihei and her followers would bathe, becoming the first of the Mali’aheral. A painting depicting the Golden Pools Bound are we, Mali’thill, to millenia of tradition - the inheritors of an ancient heritage. To it, we are loyal and from it, we shall proceed - and this shall be the guiding principle of this blessed society. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Hierarchy Masaneyiran The Masaneyiran, or ‘High Speakers’, are those who lead and guide the Society. It is through their wisdom and their adherence to maehr’sae hiylun’ehya, that they exude the virtues of the pure. There shall only ever be one Masaneyir at any given time, and they are responsible for; The guidance of elmali’thill, as exemplars of the model of purity, as echoed by this Silver Society. The maintenance and upholding of this Silver Society, its values and goals. The oversight and selection of the Saneyiran and elHeial’saneyiran. The maintenance of relations with those outside of the order. The vetoing of any decision made by elHeial’saneyiran deemed anathema to the values and goals of the Society. Saneyiran The Saneyiran, or ‘Speakers’, make up elHeial’saneyiran. They follow and implement the directives of the Masaneyir, ensuring that junior members of the society are aligned with the visions and values of the order. Saneyiran are also responsible for the tabling of new directives, policy and laws, where applicable. They shall; Oversee the recruitment of students and their subsequent training and induction into the order as Avernan. Call meetings of the elHeial’saneyiran. Enact council directives. Implement council directives. Avernan The Avernan, or ‘Wanderers’, make up the majority of the Order. They are those members who have been recruited by elSaneyiran and have been formally sworn into the Order, to live as students of the Lomahnih way. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Values Members of the Society adhere to traditional Mali’thill values - at the core of their very being, the philosophy of Larihei Lomahnih herself - maehr’sae hiylun’ehya. Furthermore, as divined by elMasaneyir Ni’leya, there are three pillars to which elMali’thill are beholden. Bloodline Members of this order hold the integrity of their bloodlines to be a fundamental part of their being, their lineage being a gift from the Silver Maiden. The safeguarding of their ancestry and bloodline cannot be overstated in terms of importance. Thus, no member of this order shall sully their bloodline and ancestry by bearing offspring that is not of pure descent. Soul Members of this order hold that within all Mali’aheral, resides and directs, a Silver Soul. Larihei, the first of our kind, long before she had discovered The Golden Pools, is known to have already maintained the physical characteristics of the Mali’aheral - pale skin, platinum hair, azure blue eyes. Thus, when Larihei bathed in the Golden Pools, through her very being and will, she willed it that all who bathe within these pools, shall be born anew, in her image - the transformation of their vulgar soul into that of a Silver Soul. The Mali’aheral, therefore differ in kind as opposed to degree from other Mali. It is this Silver Soul, which directs all Mali’thill to Larihei and her teachings. To quote Ellir’siol; “It has called to us. A dormant power, a soft undertone of purpose, faint but wishing to be stronger, has awakened beneath the skin of the pure-blooded High Elves.” Though unknown to her at the time, this ‘dormant power’, was indeed the instruction of her very being, as willed by her Silver Soul, which ultimately led her to Haelun’or in Asulon. Habit Members of this order shall endeavor to act out their purity at all times. To act as beacons, encouraging all other Mali’aheral to come forth into the light of the Silver Maiden. They shall live by the teachings of Larihei and should it be necessary, die in defense of those teachings. A painting depicting Larihei and her followers engaged in dialogue Through dedication, through continuous effort, one can live a life entirely devoted to Larihei and elmaehr’sae hiylun’ehya. This is achieved through habit - the constant striving towards the ideal. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Larihei Lomahnih Blessed is She, the Silver Maiden. Through her, we have come to be, and from her, we shall proceed. An extension of the creator himself. We are her chosen people - the mantle of her prerogative, is both our burden and our salvation, for it is in Larihei, that we find eternal consolation and a reason to be. When at last, our demise has come, we shall be embraced by her and our Silver Soul shall ascend, enjoined to her. A painting depicting Larihei Lomahnih Members of this Blessed Order hold that Larihei Lomahnih, The Silver Maiden, Shepherd of the Pure, is not merely mortal, but divine in Nature. Members of this Blessed Order hold that Larihei Lomahnih, The Silver Maiden, Shepherd of the Pure, has endowed us with a Silver Soul. Members of this Blessed Order hold that Larihei Lomahnih, The Silver Maiden, Shepherd of the Pure, is eternal - her charge to us, the pursuit of perfection through elmaehr’sae hiylun’ehya, necessary for our fruition as Mali’thill. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ To Depart Since the loss of the Silver Maiden and the rekindling of our kind in Asulon, politics and sophistry has held a grip over the very neck of Haelun’or, leaving her gasping for air. This has resulted in countless grasps at power, several attempted schisms, kinslaying and the abandonment of maehr’sae hiylun’ehya. Thus, it is time once more for the flock of Larihei to exode as the first of our kind did. A painting depicting the city of Karinah’siol This Silver Society is born, we shall remain strict adherents to the way of Larihei without engaging in the political, without suffering the woes of ‘Nation’ and ‘State’. We shall live as an autonomous commune, regulated by Silver Law and the guiding hands of elHeial’saneyiran. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Maehr’sae Hiylun’ehya Signed, Masaneyir Braxus Ni’leya
  19. The Silver Society of Larihei Lomahnih Est. 3rd of The Amber Cold, Year 85 - S.A _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ The denizens of Malinor brought fire and ruin to the homes of the Mali’thill. Violence became the language of those Mali who were bitter and jealous, and they were quick to greet their Silver cousins. Thus the path became clear - it would be an Exodus of the Thilln, that would seal the fate of Larihei’s flock. No more, would they hail Malin, No longer would they suffer the ills of Malinor. The age of Silver had begun. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Table of Contents To Begin Hierarchy Values Larihei Lomahnih To Depart _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ To Begin The Genesis of the Mali’thill begins with one, Larihei Lomahnih. It was her thirst for knowledge, her discontent with stagnation, and the want to better the lives of her people, that led her to strife with Malin and into the Great Caverns. It would be within these rough, cold and damp caves, that Larihei and her flock would discover pools of Magegold - The Golden Pools, and it would be within these pools, that Larihei and her followers would bathe, becoming the first of the Mali’aheral. A painting depicting the Golden Pools Bound are we, Mali’thill, to millenia of tradition - the inheritors of an ancient heritage. To it, we are loyal and from it, we shall proceed - and this shall be the guiding principle of this blessed society. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Hierarchy Masaneyiran The Masaneyiran, or ‘High Speakers’, are those who lead and guide the Society. It is through their wisdom and their adherence to maehr’sae hiylun’ehya, that they exude the virtues of the pure. There shall only ever be one Masaneyir at any given time, and they are responsible for; The guidance of elmali’thill, as exemplars of the model of purity, as echoed by this Silver Society. The maintenance and upholding of this Silver Society, its values and goals. The oversight and selection of the Saneyiran and elHeial’saneyiran. The maintenance of relations with those outside of the order. The vetoing of any decision made by elHeial’saneyiran deemed anathema to the values and goals of the Society. Saneyiran The Saneyiran, or ‘Speakers’, make up elHeial’saneyiran. They follow and implement the directives of the Masaneyir, ensuring that junior members of the society are aligned with the visions and values of the order. Saneyiran are also responsible for the tabling of new directives, policy and laws, where applicable. They shall; Oversee the recruitment of students and their subsequent training and induction into the order as Avernan. Call meetings of the elHeial’saneyiran. Enact council directives. Implement council directives. Avernan The Avernan, or ‘Wanderers’, make up the majority of the Order. They are those members who have been recruited by elSaneyiran and have been formally sworn into the Order, to live as students of the Lomahnih way. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Values Members of the Society adhere to traditional Mali’thill values - at the core of their very being, the philosophy of Larihei Lomahnih herself - maehr’sae hiylun’ehya. Furthermore, as divined by elMasaneyir Ni’leya, there are three pillars to which elMali’thill are beholden. Bloodline Members of this order hold the integrity of their bloodlines to be a fundamental part of their being, their lineage being a gift from the Silver Maiden. The safeguarding of their ancestry and bloodline cannot be overstated in terms of importance. Thus, no member of this order shall sully their bloodline and ancestry by bearing offspring that is not of pure descent. Soul Members of this order hold that within all Mali’aheral, resides and directs, a Silver Soul. Larihei, the first of our kind, long before she had discovered The Golden Pools, is known to have already maintained the physical characteristics of the Mali’aheral - pale skin, platinum hair, azure blue eyes. Thus, when Larihei bathed in the Golden Pools, through her very being and will, she willed it that all who bathe within these pools, shall be born anew, in her image - the transformation of their vulgar soul into that of a Silver Soul. The Mali’aheral, therefore differ in kind as opposed to degree from other Mali. It is this Silver Soul, which directs all Mali’thill to Larihei and her teachings. To quote Ellir’siol; “It has called to us. A dormant power, a soft undertone of purpose, faint but wishing to be stronger, has awakened beneath the skin of the pure-blooded High Elves.” Though unknown to her at the time, this ‘dormant power’, was indeed the instruction of her very being, as willed by her Silver Soul, which ultimately led her to Haelun’or in Asulon. Habit Members of this order shall endeavor to act out their purity at all times. To act as beacons, encouraging all other Mali’aheral to come forth into the light of the Silver Maiden. They shall live by the teachings of Larihei and should it be necessary, die in defense of those teachings. A painting depicting Larihei and her followers engaged in dialogue Through dedication, through continuous effort, one can live a life entirely devoted to Larihei and elmaehr’sae hiylun’ehya. This is achieved through habit - the constant striving towards the ideal. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Larihei Lomahnih Blessed is She, the Silver Maiden. Through her, we have come to be, and from her, we shall proceed. An extension of the creator himself. We are her chosen people - the mantle of her prerogative, is both our burden and our salvation, for it is in Larihei, that we find eternal consolation and a reason to be. When at last, our demise has come, we shall be embraced by her and our Silver Soul shall ascend, enjoined to her. A painting depicting Larihei Lomahnih Members of this Blessed Order hold that Larihei Lomahnih, The Silver Maiden, Shepherd of the Pure, is not merely mortal, but divine in Nature. Members of this Blessed Order hold that Larihei Lomahnih, The Silver Maiden, Shepherd of the Pure, has endowed us with a Silver Soul. Members of this Blessed Order hold that Larihei Lomahnih, The Silver Maiden, Shepherd of the Pure, is eternal - her charge to us, the pursuit of perfection through elmaehr’sae hiylun’ehya, necessary for our fruition as Mali’thill. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ To Depart Since the loss of the Silver Maiden and the rekindling of our kind in Asulon, politics and sophistry has held a grip over the very neck of Haelun’or, leaving her gasping for air. This has resulted in countless grasps at power, several attempted schisms, kinslaying and the abandonment of maehr’sae hiylun’ehya. Thus, it is time once more for the flock of Larihei to exode as the first of our kind did. A painting depicting the city of Karinah’siol This Silver Society is born, we shall remain strict adherents to the way of Larihei without engaging in the political, without suffering the woes of ‘Nation’ and ‘State’. We shall live as an autonomous commune, regulated by Silver Law and the guiding hands of elHeial’saneyiran. _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Maehr’sae Hiylun’ehya Signed, Masaneyir Braxus Ni’leya
  20. Anyone remember back in the day when RP wasn't about winning? When people could RP in good faith and have fun? I miss those days.

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    2. rukio

      rukio

      You've always been in Hnor right? Its definitely been far more of a cesspool in the past for human nations. 2012-2014 you would have people literally show up at each other's houses after doxxing them. One person was stalked onto a train to have their picture taken by another lotcer. People would ddos each other even up until 2018-2019 when the booting sites were taken down or w/e happened. Hnor might not have been exposed to it but the server has been in a far far worse state than it is right now. Actual death threats, pizzas sent to houses, would not be surprised if people were swatted. 

       

      OOC schemes have anyways been the backbone of human rp, though I cannot speak for elven or other rp.

    3. Gavin_

      Gavin_

      I always come back to Haelun'or, but I've been around since Aegis, was with Courland for a few years too. I agree with what you're saying, but the spirit of the server has changed. That kinda stuff went on back then but never really affected the larger server, whereas now, all of this "I don't like your community, I'm going to destroy them" shit is mainstream.

      Twi's big mistake was that she never tried to take over Haelun'or RP'ly, it was always just "Give me what I want or die". She never RP'd with us outside of that. She went about it the completely wrong way and aligned herself with the wrong people.

      Also, everyone has OOC aims and schemes. The difference between what Twi did and your average OOC plotter is that Twi was hellbent on destroying the Haelun'orian community, as was Kiwi, as was Ryan, and this - is what the staff appears to have taken issue with.

    4. Tulan

      Tulan

      Well, I'd like to see Nor'asath crumble, doesn't mean I will act on it in RP. It's just gonna happen eventually anyway. (Atleast with the current 'leadership')

  21. Literally was just forced into a discord group where I am now being once again, forced into an action - that being to give my support via comment and + 1 to this submission, which I do so happily and freely, of my own accord.
  22. I can only really speak to the Haelun'or conflict from my own perspective, but it was clear from day one, that the motivating factors in taking over Haelun'or were entirely OOC'ly based, with a sprinkling of RP to justify those actions. While this isn't necessarily a bad thing, it turned into one when it was made clear that Twi was going to stop at literally nothing to become the PRO of Haelun'or, even if that meant the destruction of a 10 year old community. Twi could've went about things so differently, and I recall being kind of shocked at her willingness to straight up try to brute-force her way through to what she wanted. At an IRP debate that was scheduled, not only did she show up late, but she then refused to debate (now, everyone knew that this debate would work out in favor of Haelun'or, but that's not the point) and the only words she spoke icly were "Surrender", before she ran without RP'ing and SS'd out. From day one, it was either "Give me your Nation or Die.". This kind of thing, in my 10+ years of playing on this server, never really happens icly, unless there are OOC factors involved. Never did she try work things out diplomatically or peacefully, it was always "Give me what I want or suffer", and this of course translated into the OOC smear campaign against not only myself, but the entirety of the Haelunorian community. It was often said to me that I, as NL at the time, was responsible for the actions of my community. If this is the case, then the same applies to Twi, and I can guarantee you, that we received enormous amounts of abuse and harassment. While I am not against a hostile takeover of a nation, it must be done irp'ly and it should be motivated irp'ly - with the RP being more than just a means of justifying an OOC plot. Unfortunately, this response is entirely accurate in its portrayal of how Twi acted during the Haelun'or conflict.
  23. Haense can paste in a build but Haelun'or can't? Despite us being given the go-ahead a while ago? Hrm..

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    2. ReveredOwl

      ReveredOwl

      idk why you want to paste a new city you'll lose in a couple weeks

    3. Disheartened

      Disheartened

      I dunno if this is widely known or not, but I remember when I was on WT some pastes would be far more complex and time consuming than others. We even had to take the entire server down to do some. Perhaps the difference is in that? I am not sure, of course, but try to be understanding to the staff. It's a tough job.

    4. Gavin_

      Gavin_

      @DisheartenedAbsolutely, my only gripe is that we've had a warclaim declared on us whilst actively being in one, essentially stun-locking us, whilst at the same time being told that we could paste our new build in, only now to be told that we're not allowed to. It's the lack of consistency that bothers me.

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