((Ooc)) How To Fix Malinor

[Baconthief 682]

Alright, I've returned from my test and have maintained an open mind to your suggestion and I can see how it would work. It would truly remove all of these uber-casual players whom watch as I work, and expect for myself to both build their home and wipe their ass while doing complex algebraic systems. It will get rid of these people whom are killed six times in a row and only return.

 

Yet, once this "fat" is trimmed, what will be left of malinor? It will still remain the very same dedicated players. The very same individuals who have stuck around for so long, through ooc-**** storms and plenty of unneeded grief. The very core, will remain the same, all the external will be removed. With the "leaches" gone, I see a similar situation as Oren-Malinor or Asulon when there was only four to five people present in the entire nation and that will remain of the entire nation. Then there is a completely new problem, a great lack of playerbase(One which has been in malinor for nearly two years) That is not something that can easily be fixed, especially with the ooc factionalism of this sever. Help, as I had mentioned, is going to need to be required regardless.  Something I find the other high council individuals have overlook was the simple task of actively hunting for and seeking out assistance.

 

The aegis-malinor cannot be made so simply, especially if the potential(These new elven rpers, something that was extremely rare between asulon and now) is being removed. There is much needed change in the leadership, I will not argue. Yet, the playerbase remains the root-problem as none wish to change, nor do they wish to rp a normal elf. Malinor will become a nation of four people who know how to rp an elf, if a genocide was to be done.

[PtahWithin 1320]

Alright, I've returned from my test and have maintained an open mind to your suggestion and I can see how it would work. It would truly remove all of these uber-casual players whom watch as I work, and expect for myself to both build their home and wipe their ass while doing complex algebraic systems. It will get rid of these people whom are killed six times in a row and only return.

 

Yet, once this "fat" is trimmed, there will be very few people. It will still remain  the same dedicated players, in the same amount. With the "leaches" gone and removed, I see a similar situation as Oren-Malinor or Asulon when there was only four to five people present in the entire nation(who were the dedicated individuals) and that will remain of the entire nation. Help, as I had mentioned, is going to need to be required regardless.  Something I find the other high council individuals have overlook was the simple task of actively hunting for and seeking out assistance.

 

The aegis-malinor cannot be made so simply, especially if the potential(These new elven rpers, something that was extremely rare between asulon and now) is being removed.

 

good

 

now let the bodies hit the floor

[Aislin 4354]

Pay substantial money to hire a functioning guard force so all those whimps in malinor that cry about PvP all the time can shut up.

 

Problem solved.

 

P.S. Learn to separate IC and OOC and you'll be just fine.

[ĔṀĔŔĨĨČĶ 519]

Pay substantial money to hire a functioning guard force so all those whimps in malinor that cry about PvP all the time can shut up.

 

Problem solved.

 

I would PvP for Malinor if your OOC attitude wasn't so unwelcoming to "Human" players. Literally, I tried playing an elf but got treated like **** RPly and OOCly because I raided you in the past on a different character. If you guys cannot even separate OOC and RP in such a Minor level, I do not know what to tell you.

[Baconthief 682]

I would PvP for Malinor if your OOC attitude wasn't so unwelcoming to "Human" players. Literally, I tried playing an elf but got treated like **** RPly and OOCly because I raided you in the past on a different character. If you guys cannot even separate OOC and RP in such a Minor level, I do not know what to tell you.

Please provide me names of the people who do that, when they do. Most of the people who do that, are the rogue individuals whom I've mentioned before. It's not the real-malinor who regularly gets online to see to it things are done(Which is like three), it's the false outer-coating.

[ĔṀĔŔĨĨČĶ 519]

Please provide me names of the people who do that, when they do. Most of the people who do that, are the rogue individuals whom I've mentioned before. It's not the real-malinor who regularly gets online to see to it things are done, it's the false outer-coating.

 

!! I'll tell you what I will come be an elf on an Alt MC Account and PvP for you and no one will even know it's me.

[The Fact Core 511]

Good, words.

[Garukumus 81]

There comes a point when being the counter-revolution just becomes absurd. You all talk about the "Real" or "Core" Malinor citizens, yet acknowledge the fact that almost the entirety of your playerbase believes in something completely different. To be a functioning nation you cannot force on your playerbase the way you want them to act; You have to allow them fulfillment of RP.

[Crayfishchris 751]

Hm... alright. As a human/elven player (I've got a main who is of Oren and a nearly-main who is of Haelun'or.), I personally find this conflict stupid. It appears that only me and a few others seem to view this optimistically, or with any sort of positive attitude.

 

I'm all for improving Malinor's military. That's one of the things you need to do to survive as a nation. And it is blatantly obvious the PvP as a whole needs to improve. The thing is, Malinor developed as an RP-fight area. And that causes problems, because when it comes time to fight, most people are keyboard warriors!

 

Now, a government with one leader would be cool, but that is my view, as I was a human first.

 

But in all honesty, let's stop ganging  up on Malinor and just take a chill pill. It's more fun when we just RP, and don't create threads like this.

[Katherine1 362]

BTW, get those darn Dryads and Druids active within ya town!

Druids left Malinor after being threatened for trying to heal Old Malinor after they risked their lives and put tons of effort into saving it while the elves basically gave up and didn't care for it. The current leader is known to not be too fond of the Druids anyway. Getting druids active in Malinor now is much harder then it would have been just a couple weeks ago.

Dryads are a different story. I am going to tweak them to be more social, but I'm also planning to make a grove for dryads. That way they can be clumped together for RP and can go to a nearby RP hub. At the moment I'm considering whether to make the grove near Malinor or Cloud Temple. Cloud temple would get the RP out to more then just the Elves, but Malinor is where most Elves RP, so it'd provide the easiest transition from wood elf to dryad as there would be no change in the RP hub you seek out.

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

What rubs me the wrong way, Ptah, is the way you talk. "Wasting blood, sweat, and tears on this nation." It's a minecraft server. And no matter how frustrating it is to you, rp is rp.

As for the subject itself:

1. Appoint a supreme dictator who has the first and final say in everything. (khel?)

2. Build a barracks and jail. Fire guards who do nothing when crimes happen.

3. We already have iron. Mine more.

4. Citizens: Stop acting entitled when a guard is doing his job. So many people protest against arrests and guard activities for shits and giggles because its just so cool to play the rebel, to stick it to the system. No. It's not. Obey the guard. End of story. And if you dont you have no right to complain about the law in malinor.

That is just my two cents. Really I think we should drop the OOC and just roleplay instead of making these threads.

[__WaterFox__ 636]

Forgive me if I have not seen it, but I want to see more cunnning deals made by the council members. Who said elves can't be smooth liars or pull off dirty politics? That would be the kind of stuff I'd expect great manipulation and under handed dealings from elves

[Baconthief 682]

1. Appoint a supreme dictator who has the first and final say in everything. (khel?)

 

 

You don't know what you get yourself into, you'll all become rigid, orderly, snotty lil'thalmor if I had my way.

Also to build on artimec's point, stay in school and make good grades aswell

[Heff 2460]

Somethings wrong with Malinor?

[Wolf Druid Ouity 1461]

1) Please, for the love of all things holy, don't 'revamp' the political system into having one high leader. It just throws out the window huge lore central to an elf's way of thinking. When the upper and lower councils were first created, frankly, I was dissapointed. Bring back one central decision making body (the princes and princesses) who juggle everything evenly. In Aegis, being the high leader meant you got 2 votes in a council meeting, nothing more, nothing less. It was good because it was different from the way every other nation was doing things, one main leader with offshoot advisors, generals, etc.

2) The main problem with elves at this point in time is that nobody understands or cares about how an elf is supposed to behave. The term that comes to my mind is 'pointy eared humans.' Elves should be slow to react to anything, calm, contemplative creatures. They live for thousands of years, what do they care about 10 years of hard political trial with Oren? It's a drop of water in the ocean. Half the elves shouldn't even know the name of the current king, because in their eyes, humans come and go in the blink of an eye. You wake up one morning and realize that one of your old buddies has been dead for five generations.

Elves should have a fundemental respect for nature, and Druids. I'm not tooting my own horn here, but Druidism is the native religion of the Elves. Malin, if I'm not mistaken, was a Druid, but for the past IRL year, we've been walked over by three different leaders, to the point where we've grown so frustrated with trying to roleplay with you guys that we've left. Not once, but twice, we've felt the need to simply pack up and leave the nation.

3) Elves should NOT be focused on combat, festivals and celebration should be an every day occurance in Malinor. I'm not saying there should be no guard force, but it should have a very minimal impact on the way things run. Of course, that's relying on the idea that people CHOSE to roleplay their characters correctly, and aren't cartwheeling around throwing knives every which way. If an elf fights, it should be out of the ordinary, and even more so to go to war. Usually, an elf should try to just outlive their opponents. When you compare an elf and a human based on just their text and emotes, there should be a distinct difference because at the end of the day, they're two VERY different races with huge cultural differences. Should ALL elves be like this? No. Should most of them? Yes.

EDIT: One of the most fantastic things about Native's reign was that he was a very passive leader, and lead people on how they should act and behave based on his example. When I caught a bandit on Malinor soil, our conversation went something like this:

"What should I do with the murderer?"

"Oh, you know, whatever you want."

It really set a standard to how elves SHOULD be played, and I firmly believe a leader like THAT is what the elves need most.