((Ooc)) How To Fix Malinor

[PtahWithin 1320]

What rubs me the wrong way, Ptah, is the way you talk. "Wasting blood, sweat, and tears on this nation." It's a minecraft server. And no matter how frustrating it is to you, rp is rp.

 

I like words.

[Galendar 631]

you. need. one. leader.

[yopplwasupxxx 5946]

Kill the known cultists that walk your streets first, I see like 1000000 of them everytime I go into New Malinor

[Shadeleaf 1022]

A harbinger walked into malinor today... undisguised... it was asked to remove its armor

/facepalm

 

 

Guards need to be more decisive in their actions, but else I think malinor is on the road to recovery, if not? I'll happily pull the antag card and destroy it again~

[Galendar 631]

A harbinger walked into malinor today... undisguised... it was asked to remove its armor

/facepalm

 

 

Guards need to be more decisive in their actions, but else I think malinor is on the road to recovery, if not? I'll happily pull the antag card and destroy it again~

destroying it right now would. not. help.

[Pinsir99 526]

Nowadays it's incredibly frustrating when we're taken off of regions just for the sake of it, 

*Double Cough*

 

And maybe a CT-like ward that stops fighting could be created. *Shrug*

[Samsan99 274]

1) Please, for the love of all things holy, don't 'revamp' the political system into having one high leader. It just throws out the window huge lore central to an elf's way of thinking. When the upper and lower councils were first created, frankly, I was dissapointed. Bring back one central decision making body (the princes and princesses) who juggle everything evenly. In Aegis, being the high leader meant you got 2 votes in a council meeting, nothing more, nothing less. It was good because it was different from the way every other nation was doing things, one main leader with offshoot advisors, generals, etc.

2) The main problem with elves at this point in time is that nobody understands or cares about how an elf is supposed to behave. The term that comes to my mind is 'pointy eared humans.' Elves should be slow to react to anything, calm, contemplative creatures. They live for thousands of years, what do they care about 10 years of hard political trial with Oren? It's a drop of water in the ocean. Half the elves shouldn't even know the name of the current king, because in their eyes, humans come and go in the blink of an eye. You wake up one morning and realize that one of your old buddies has been dead for five generations.

Elves should have a fundemental respect for nature, and Druids. I'm not tooting my own horn here, but Druidism is the native religion of the Elves. Malin, if I'm not mistaken, was a Druid, but for the past IRL year, we've been walked over by three different leaders, to the point where we've grown so frustrated with trying to roleplay with you guys that we've left. Not once, but twice, we've felt the need to simply pack up and leave the nation.

3) Elves should NOT be focused on combat, festivals and celebration should be an every day occurance in Malinor. I'm not saying there should be no guard force, but it should have a very minimal impact on the way things run. Of course, that's relying on the idea that people CHOSE to roleplay their characters correctly, and aren't cartwheeling around throwing knives every which way. If an elf fights, it should be out of the ordinary, and even more so to go to war. Usually, an elf should try to just outlive their opponents. When you compare an elf and a human based on just their text and emotes, there should be a distinct difference because at the end of the day, they're two VERY different races with huge cultural differences. Should ALL elves be like this? No. Should most of them? Yes.

EDIT: One of the most fantastic things about Native's reign was that he was a very passive leader, and lead people on how they should act and behave based on his example. When I caught a bandit on Malinor soil, our conversation went something like this:

"What should I do with the murderer?"

"Oh, you know, whatever you want."

It really set a standard to how elves SHOULD be played, and I firmly believe a leader like THAT is what the elves need most.

Just yes

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

Or how about this, you dont like how things are going, DONT TALK ABOUT THEM ON THE ******* FORUMS ALL I HEAR IS OOC BS AND ITS REALY TICKING ME OFF You see someting wrong RPLY FIX IT that is what rp is for isnt it? or is this server so dependent on the forums that people cant function right with out an area to bs over ooc things THIS IS A RP SERVER DAMNIT Start acting like one, and this malinor stuff, FIX IT THROUGH ""RP"" I cant stress this enough Roleplaying is what this server was made on not a bunch off ooc bullshit. Now, why, why talk about it on the forums, why not do something rply if you see it is a problem in rp standards have an uprising or something and userp them who knows what other posibilities there are just dont settle an rp problem through ooc this is this reason i keep leaving the only reason i keep coming back is some dear friends of mine. Also, please excuse my language.

Oh lookie, a sensible person!

[PtahWithin 1320]

Oh lookie, a sensible person!

 

Funny how when someone else does it it is sensible, but when I use much, much less swearing and literary prose apparently I'm frustrated and angry and have to chill.

[bickando 3967]

#DisbandMalinor

Joking, but seriously. It's fine if we wish to solve it in RP, and I personally am fine with that as well, but the Elven playerbase in Malinor has no wish to change. They go about like the humans, not like Elves would probably be. I think a legitimate problem is people not shaping up and taking responsibility for running around shooting dark magic, for fighting the guards and asking why it is so instable. Malinor, in my opinion, has become more like the Humans than it should ever be.

[Evilbanana5757 154]

#ouity4highprince

[Crayfishchris 751]

A harbinger walked into malinor today... undisguised... it was asked to remove its armor

/facepalm

 

 

Guards need to be more decisive in their actions, but else I think malinor is on the road to recovery, if not? I'll happily pull the antag card and destroy it again~

Um… hi.

 

As the guard who asked that Harbinger to remove his armor, let me explain.

My character, Kristian, had never… ever… seen a Harbinger. His actions were those of a loyal guard in Malinor. Ask that creepy knight in the corner to please remove his armor, as that is not allowed in the city!

Now, OOCly, I wanted to create RP by doing this, as I kind of knew that if you walk around in an armor skin, you're generally something like a Harbinger, or a Dread Knight… you know, something that doesn't have a soul (or whatever is going on with those guys~)! Something to be feared! And I decided to keep asking because Kristian, like the silly dolt he is, would probably continue and get himself into trouble.

 

You are attempting to bring OOC reasoning into something that doesn't require it. If your character had a problem with that, then bring it up to a Prince or someone of higher rank. Don't try to place the blame on Malinor (dang, autocorrect, y u do dis) for something entirely RP related. Because, on the whole, that was a very enjoyable event. My suggestion is to RP all these troubles away. We have too many edgies? Ban the ones who cause trouble. We acting too much like the humans? Governmental reform time! Did Malinor get into a war they shouldn't have? Oren, go at it! Crush 'em, alright? Show 'em not to make war. The whiners OOC can be talked to via the amazing Private Messaging system we have here. There is absolutely no need whatsoever to make threads like this!

 

Alrighty. That is my two cents. 

[Tethras 278]

Just gonna touch up a bit on the Druid point. Agreed Elves should respect Nature, but Druids? I would say it's more of a extremist form of elven ideology. Having been a Druid during Asulon where we retook Elandriel, one thing I've noticed is that druids are selfish. And are so god damn  self entitled. Like honestly, you should listen to me because I'm a Druid. All Elves should be druids! I don't blame the Elves for not adopting druidism. I wouldn't say Druids are the Elven Religion, but rather part of it. We don't offer that much these days, and are very much to ourselves. Let the Elves form a religion with Druidism as a part, although more of an extremist branch of it. They don't need the Druids breathing down their necks, making their demands because they're their religion. Druids do offer good things, but we've never really acted well as the Elven religion. And I think it's about time we actually realised our own folly instead of blaming the elven population completely. But being a tad controversial I agree the Elves need to respect nature and have an understanding of druids to a degree. Maybe disagreeing depending on how their personal character is. #EveryonesEdgyinsomeway.

 

((It's 3am so I'll write another post to clarify my views on this matter tomorrow. I'm tired so it may have been worded incorrectly, so it's subject to change. At any rate G'night))

 

ps. I'm still a Druid. #Druid4ever

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

Just gonna touch up a bit on the Druid point. Agreed Elves should respect Nature, but Druids? I would say it's more of a extremist form of elven ideology. Having been a Druid during Asulon where we retook Elandriel, one thing I've noticed is that druids are selfish. And are so god damn  self entitled. Like honestly, you should listen to me because I'm a Druid. All Elves should be druids! I don't blame the Elves for not adopting druidism. I wouldn't say Druids are the Elven Religion, but rather part of it. We don't offer that much these days, and are very much to ourselves. Let the Elves form a religion with Druidism as a part, although more of an extremist branch of it. They don't need the Druids breathing down their necks, making their demands because they're their religion. Druids do offer good things, but we've never really acted well as the Elven religion. And I think it's about time we actually realised our own folly instead of blaming the elven population completely. But being a tad controversial I agree the Elves need to respect nature and have an understanding of druids to a degree. Maybe disagreeing depending on how their personal character is. #EveryonesEdgyinsomeway.

 

((It's 3am so I'll write another post to clarify my views on this matter tomorrow. I'm tired so it may have been worded incorrectly, so it's subject to change. At any rate G'night))

 

ps. I'm still a Druid. #Druid4ever

Many Elves = Mage

Druids no like-ey the magics.

Druidic Elven religion = Maybe not good.

[Baconthief 682]

I do agree with you 100% dave. Druidism should most defiantly be part of elven rp, but to have a true-lotc elf devoutly follow the teachings of the aspects? No, I would say an elf would never strictly adhere to any religious teachings in such a manner. An elf welcomes magic, as much as he/she should nature. They should most certainly have an understanding of the druid faith, and like what was stated above: it should be a divided issue among the elven populace.

 

My personal character would never follow any druidic belief because of many things that have occurred in rp, but he most certainly knows and understands druidic teachings (Being an Aegis-warden, asulon-druids, chaotic behavior, magic, a few situations in rp) But the problem I see with the sole elven religion being druidism is: Mages

 

Most mages are elves, most elves want to be a mage. Magic is welcomed just as much as druidism, yet druidism does not tolerate the presence of magic

 

Elves =/= druids 100%,  but I personally wish that the druids truly could find a niche in elven rp and will gladly work oocly ( khel will rply, knowing the importance of the circle to many other elves) to help find a place. Yet, as it stands, druidism is not fit to work as an elven faith, and it's unlikely to be welcomed without a few changes.