Your View: New Magic Rules (Vote!)

[Wendigo 786]

This post is obviously in regards to the new changes to magic, which can be found here https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/137011-a-new-policy-on-teaching-applications/ and here https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/137461-limited-teaching-and-further-elaboration/

 

I don't want to go on a long rant because I feel like there are somethings that people can say better then I, but I will put in my two cents. 

 

I do not understand after what seemed like the overwhelming negativity these new rules produced (Each person bringing to the table a VALID reason for it being a terrible new addition), that they haven't been removed. From what I've read on the forums, and please correct me if I'm wrong, the majority of even the MAT disagreed with Slic3 and this rule. So unless clarified a lot of conjecture is coming from this. From what I've also been observing through various posts and skype chats, a majority of the staff as well disagree with the rule! So again the question begs, if the community as a whole(Which I hope the vote reflects) disagrees with it, WHY is it still being enforced and added upon? 

 

Another point I'd like to bring forward is, how will shrinking the pool of teachers decrease magic 'cliques'? This will only make people hold onto their more important TAs and increase the very thing you are trying to get rid of. This is backwards, and makes zero sense as a whole in the short and long term grand scheme of things. 

 

For some reason this whole idea sits wrong with me on so many levels. So please I'd like to hear, as I'm sure everyone else would like to hear, your opinions either good or bad on these new changes.

Edited December 4, 2015 by Wendigo

[Delmodan 855]

I am truly failing to see how even the current change to said rule effects what is wanted out of it. To me, this current change I see it as giving leniency to a few set magic groups whereas this rule is effecting every magic group as a whole. As well, the current explanation sounds as if there is more of a problem with people learning a lot of harder to get magics, due to 'cliques' or however they obtain it, than teachers themselves. With this limitation, those teachers with harder to get magics will choose to keep them and rid themselves of the more common magics, thus limiting the more common magic teachers as well restricting more of the harder to get magics and who can even teach them. This can in turn strengthen and add more cliques which defeats the purpose of this rule. 

[Runabarn 1028]

Someone needs to slap some sense into slic3.

[GodEmperorFlam 3447]

Someone needs to slap some sense into slic3.

Or simply remove him from MAT lead as he seems incapable of processing feedback and admitting his own mistakes.

[Wendigo 786]

I'd ask that people leave thoughtful and constructive comments, but I do realize some people may be more upset with this rule then others. Delmodan brings up a good point, by enforcing this rule you are limiting the exposure to magic as a whole. 

[GodEmperorFlam 3447]

I'd ask that people leave thoughtful and constructive comments, but I do realize some people may be more upset with this rule then others. Delmodan brings up a good point, by enforcing this rule you are limiting the exposure to magic as a whole. 

Well, I left a handful of paragraphs on the previous thread which, along with everyone else's points aside from the deity bit, have been ignored. It's rather clear that our opinions don't really matter, which is why I made the comment that I did. Delmodan hit the nail on the head or however the saying goes though.

[EdgyMagey 787]

I am sorry but the new TA rule is currently nothing but limiting the teachers of magic and possibly students. It will just result in more and more magicks getting axed because of inactivity. For example, I currently have a TA for fore evocation. I still want to teach others Mental Magic and Voidal Shifting. But now, I have to deciede one since this new rule just popped up randomly.

[luv 3469]

I am sorry but the new TA rule is currently nothing but limiting the teachers of magic and possibly students. It will just result in more and more magicks getting axed because of inactivity. For example, I currently have a TA for fore evocation. I still want to teach others Mental Magic and Voidal Shifting. But now, I have to deciede one since this new rule just popped up randomly.

I agree, I feel this rule isn't going to do any good, especially since majority of the community don't like it either.

[ℤ∃ʁ∅ 823]

All what Delmo said really.. If the team is going backwards again, cut the leader or the team. The latest rule just gave us teachers that teach hard to learn magics even more struggle than it already is..

[Archbishop 1784]

As a magic user and teacher of one of the listed magics in Slic3mans newest post. I do not understand the new rule, is somebody able to explain it to me please so I know what is going on? I did attempt to ask Slic3man on skype to find out but he has not replied.

Edited December 4, 2015 by Adam_barnett

[Corvoo 562]

While I'm thankful that some leniency being given to some magic groups, I don't understand the need for said rule in the first place. I've talked with numerous people about it, and none of us can seem to make heads or tails of why this rule was implemented in the first place. The MAT said at one point it was to remove cliques, but this is just going to make said cliques worse. I'm not sure what the MAT lead is thinking, and if the rule isn't going to be removed, I'd appreciate some clarification on why it even exists in the first place. Along with what they're trying to accomplish. I see absolutely no benefits whatsoever.

[luv 3469]

While I'm thankful that some leniency being given to some magic groups, I don't understand the need for said rule in the first place. I've talked with numerous people about it, and none of us can seem to make heads or tails of why this rule was implemented in the first place. The MAT said at one point it was to remove cliques, but this is just going to make said cliques worse. I'm not sure what the MAT lead is thinking, and if the rule isn't going to be removed, I'd appreciate some clarification on why it even exists in the first place. Along with what they're trying to accomplish. I see absolutely no benefits whatsoever.

I agree with the cliqueing so much! This is only going to make magic cliqueing worse in every possible way. 

[1 1393]

I don't get, whatsoever how it breaks up cliques. This would seem to make more cliques by limiting teachers, thus limiting students. That makes less magic users!

Seriously, what is Slic3's line of thought in this.

[luv 3469]

We shouldn't keep bashing Slic3, it's not the right way to go about this. But I do agree with the majority that yes this rule should be removed.

[Song Druid 1486]

The reasoning being the removal of magic cliques? Druids are already disliked for many reasons.  Now because on a whole Druids are clearly being given a form of special treatment on a rule that really shouldn't even exist, it's only going to serve to alienate us even further from the server (which we are taking painstaking lengths IC to undo).