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[argonian 14254]

17 minutes ago, woke said:

 

The whole point of being a mercenary is not to be attached or aligned with any nation. Mercenaries are simply hired to fight, and if the other side offers better pay, of course the mercs would gladly switch sides. That's just a thing or two about making deals with mercenaries.

real mercenaries actually want to gain something. so switching to side B because they're giving you shit makes sense. switching back to side A and sacrificing all the stuff side B gave you does not. the ferrymen have done this dozens of times. fight a war, win a war, get given a fort or smth, give it up immediately without a fight next time they switch sides, rinse and repeat. it's incredibly boring.

 

the flays forged empires. the reivers maintained a consistent front against one. the ferrymen r ADHD patients pre-adderall 

[ImmortalShadowZ 1306]

I have been on both sides of Ferrymen situations in like 2/3 years of being around actively. Both sides with them, and against them (way back during early Arichsdorf days) have been pretty enjoyable - 10/10 will say this again. Bandits and Mercenaries (which the ferrymen fall under) need conflict, and even more the server needs it. The veletz war created a drastic atmosphere due to the ferrymen and the groups that took their appeal, although many people chose to try and log off to avoid it.

It was a certainly a tedious modreq against us time, but it was fun to log in and see the crowds after they captured prisoners of war. We can't be keyboard warriors complaining about the consequences of these groups that are ultimately here to challenge the status quo and provide a much more enjoyable atmosphere.  Otherwise the majority of the server gets too comfortable in tunnels sharing tea (but not all of us want to wait around doing nothing for 3 months again and again until another coalition war happens). 

Now will you please release me so I can go back and build more terrain? I ain't even going to get rep for this, its on PAGE 8

[Treshure 5817]

56 minutes ago, argonian said:

real mercenaries actually want to gain something. so switching to side B because they're giving you shit makes sense. switching back to side A and sacrificing all the stuff side B gave you does not. the ferrymen have done this dozens of times. fight a war, win a war, get given a fort or smth, give it up immediately without a fight next time they switch sides, rinse and repeat. it's incredibly boring.

 

the flays forged empires. the reivers maintained a consistent front against one. the ferrymen r ADHD patients pre-adderall 

This is incredibly spot on. I wrote up a bigger post that I ditched but this sums it up much better. Flays were scary because they were invested in the IRP consequences. Shit, even guys like DPMAGICIAN loved political scheming RP, which made their PvP that much ******* scarier. Their icy RP personas were believable. The Ferrymen have no spine, no agenda, no plan. It’s just a club. 
 

I will say that the Ferrymen have a much better temperament than the old PvP groups. I saw Flays flash their guns on old show yourself threads, and I can’t even tell you the racist shit they used to say on their TeamSpeak. But you can have an edge without flashing swastikas everywhere. I just miss a PvP group with as much bite OOCly as they give in character. It’s hard to sit through a bandit encounter knowing he’s gunna get it on with an Azdrazi slay queen princess afterwards — these are not people I would take seriously, ever

[squakhawk 14038]

you’re better than reivers but still have reiver problems 

 

i like some of the ferrymen but i’m continually disappointed at other parts where the most awful people are protected and endorsed by you guys; people that have objectively done nothing but harm the server and its players and yet they’re somehow friends despite doxxing, threatening, harassing, saying insane deranged racist/homophobic shit, and they can claim to change however they have but even with my optimistic nature i know that’s just a flat lie 

 

I know these people just crave attention and validation (why through heinous behavior is beyond me) but it leeches sometimes into you guys into just doing rediculiusly stupid shit too. Orlanth putting iron blocks in prebuild for his fuckin house insulation is like just funny about what Islamadon mainly said that you guys have the potential to do a lot of good on the server and often just avoid it. And i can’t blame you, it’s easier to not hold yourself to a high standard and and it’s not your moral or literal obligation to do so either. 

 

But it’s just an option, really. I can’t say wars are decided but it’s annoying that multiple systems have to be done to balance around a couple dozen people who are like a blackwater terror unit that doesn’t really seem to align or correlate with roleplay and seems moreso just OOC friend alliances or ego strokes. 

 

The OOC black market trading, the logging off and on in mines on different personas to abuse harvesting, abuse of st nodes when we had them, pushing every system to its maximum unintended limit that borders on fail rp by trading across personas and shit. The typical bandit meme name like Dirty Richard who is a snow elf (who has a secret cutie soft spot for his egf) but is otherwise a 2 dimensional waste of time that just rolls around with a kit and ganks only the weakest and most vulnerable people 

 

There could be more, there could be a bare minimum, and that’s not to say all you guys are that or do that. More and more names of just terrible people crop up in my head when i initially had meant to target like 4 in the higher paragraph and now i’m thinking about even more with every sentence i type. 

 

Sure, they’re your friends, but if it was any real bond you’d hold them to a standard that they shouldn’t get their rocks off on hurting people and trying to ruin their day like some sort of emotional vampire. 

 

stop enabling awful people, hold yourselves and eachother accountable if you want to be any semblance of good folk- you don’t have to, yes, but you’re looking for my thoughts and they’re there. 

 

I appreciate some of the roleplay communities and opportunities you guys have approached and done organically and think there has been improvements over the years but these things keep happening that are just nonstop letdowns of what and who could be rather than what they are.

[RandomRhunes 177]

“Oh no! The ferrymen raided! But I wish they’d raid my heart instead. .”

[colovian fur 8360]

i will defeat the ferrymen. 

[HazelWazel 463]

1/10. A ferryman member will message me “Moo.” Once in a blue moon to get me to breed cows for him. Don’t recommend. 

[seannie 7443]

this is a fed list and any1 who commented on it will have their doors busted down by ferryglowies

[MissToni 3565]

Fight me! 1vs1, I dare you! (I will lose)

[Xarkly 17299]

4 hours ago, ImmortalShadowZ said:

I have been on both sides of Ferrymen situations in like 2/3 years of being around actively. Both sides with them, and against them (way back during early Arichsdorf days) have been pretty enjoyable - 10/10 will say this again. Bandits and Mercenaries (which the ferrymen fall under) need conflict, and even more the server needs it. The veletz war created a drastic atmosphere due to the ferrymen and the groups that took their appeal, although many people chose to try and log off to avoid it.

It was a certainly a tedious modreq against us time, but it was fun to log in and see the crowds after they captured prisoners of war. We can't be keyboard warriors complaining about the consequences of these groups that are ultimately here to challenge the status quo and provide a much more enjoyable atmosphere.  Otherwise the majority of the server gets too comfortable in tunnels sharing tea (but not all of us want to wait around doing nothing for 3 months again and again until another coalition war happens). 

Now will you please release me so I can go back and build more terrain? I ain't even going to get rep for this, its on PAGE 8

 

I think some of the points are that it doesn't challenge the status quo though.

 

Ironically like some of the others are saying, the brand of conflict itself is becoming stale. It's just the same cycle now for like 4 years.

 

If something like EOM or whatever actually came out of these wars one day it would be much more interesting. Granted server rules and how hard it is to do shit like that does play a big role, but you get what I mean.

 

As an outsider the goal just seems to be fighting for fighting sake, and it kinda feels stale since 2021, and like 50% of people have a character called Dicky Dickyson and don't actually play outside of raids.

[woke 1157]

6 hours ago, argonian said:

real mercenaries actually want to gain something. so switching to side B because they're giving you shit makes sense. switching back to side A and sacrificing all the stuff side B gave you does not. the ferrymen have done this dozens of times. fight a war, win a war, get given a fort or smth, give it up immediately without a fight next time they switch sides, rinse and repeat. it's incredibly boring.

 

the flays forged empires. the reivers maintained a consistent front against one. the ferrymen r ADHD patients pre-adderall 

 

You just mad cus we getting paid and you're not getting paid! XD

[LazyBacon220 600]

Overall, I am not opposed to conflict rp. In fact, I love running events that impose some sort of large-scale conflict on players. Another obvious iteration of this is the Ferryman or a pvp-based conflict group. This premise is something that should remain on the server but overall, I have had terrible experiences with ferrymen. My most blatant example of this was a raid conducted early last year during the Petran Civil War. The majority of the ferrymen during that encounter were incredibly toxic and brought down the seriousness of the roleplay with single sentence emotes and egregious power gaming. (They also irply killed children which isn't cool) This and other instances have changed my perspective on ferryman.

I do know however, that there are chill players who play bandit personas. I have had interactions with them before and these are refreshing. I enjoy adding conflict to my persona's story but when it is blatantly toxic (lotc is not a COD lobby) it brings down the experience and brings down the view of the entire group.

[Unwillingly 18108]

47 minutes ago, LazyBacon220 said:

They also irply killed children which isn't cool

ok everything else u said is fair and I'm not discrediting that but why is it unacceptable to kill children in rp genuinely curious what the perspective is here

[FadedMoonlight 450]

This is legit the first time I've ever heard of Ferrymen, can they give me a boat ride out of Aevos? 

[woke 1157]

49 minutes ago, FadedMoonlight said:

This is legit the first time I've ever heard of Ferrymen, can they give me a boat ride out of Aevos? 

 

I got you for a price (all of your belongings)