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Tristan Roderic grumbles... "Dammit bub!" also wondering why his favourite tavern-keeper didn't invite Markev's No.1 tourney winner on said errand?

You’re taking this out of context and nitpicking. I clearly implied healing as the narrative of my response, something which you seem to have ignored. I also find it interesting you didn’t respond to my reference of Holy Healing users in Haense collaborating without issue of roleplay being killed. I also haven’t seen you produce any evidence to back your claims, whereas I have produced evidence to back mine. Again, you’re exploiting context. I wasn’t talking about self regeneration in the particular quote you responded to. Rather, I was talking about healing magic being applied to someone else. Instead of actively responding to this, you scribbled over it and branded my response as something else entirely. I made an explaination into why Holy Healing isn’t God’s revelation and why it isn’t perfecto in every given situation. Learn how to debate. Ah, but you were in fact the one who brought up this argument. As cited below: Though I will give you the benefit of the doubt given as you did mention that this was a different argument. However, I find it interesting and painstakingly hilarious that you seek to say my response is irrelevant despite the fact it was a legitimate response to one of your own. Manipulating the argument and then taking a 180 turn just makes you look like a condescending fool and reduces your legitimacy to rubble. Oh, I did read the responses, and you once again appear to have little to no justification into why you think this way, nor evidence to back your claims other than some steep hatred for healing. Ascended don’t regenerate like Deadpool or Wolverine for God’s sake. I made a point on how regeneration is a common occurrence in many kinds of magic. How am I meant to roleplay healing myself when I’m sitting casually in a deserted RP hub with no one there to respond or view my roleplay? Do I go to a nation where potentially the roleplay is hostile? Do I wander around searching for roleplay despite the fact I’m injured and trying to heal my wounds. If healing-regenerative roleplay is truly awful, why don’t you make an effort to inquire in roleplay with someone healing themselves and establish some context? But hey, at least you responded properly to what I actually said this time. I’d prefer if you took time looking into context with every response you make. It would make having debates with you all the more interesting and fun.

@ChonGojDragonskiYour claim that Holy roleplay kills mudane healing is blatantly false. Allow me to produce citation: In the Kingdom of Haense, we had an entire hospital with devoted mundane and alchemical roleplayers that would actively roleplay treating players who had been wounded. I myself witnessed roleplay such as people having their wounds sealed close, stitching, disinfecting and essentially the furthest you could go before your roleplay was considered too gory. Mundane healing roleplay did die in Haense however. This was not a result of healing roleplay, as we had both @Farryn and @EternalSaturnroleplaying there at said time without any issue. In fact, it died as a result of ooc intrigue inciting conflict to a nation which otherwise didn’t warrant it according to the current war rules. Though that’s a different topic. Basically, when the previous Haense leadership decided to enact an exodus and leave the server, the hospital roleplayers went with them. Farryn also pointed out that she used mundane healing prior to any attempt at applying healing roleplay, due to the fact healing magic takes time to conjure and apply. Situations where this doesn’t happen is once again a result of poor roleplay and powergaming, which happens in every form of roleplay. The reason we fundamentally don’t have enough mundane healers is because people don’t want to roleplay them. People would rather roleplay a Knight, a mage, a peasant or even a noble. Who are we to accuse a magic of causing something that actively is the fault of the playerbase as a whole. Also another point. PK clauses are bad. The idea that a character must be forcefully injured, mutilated and perm-killed takes away freedom of roleplay and literally allows the concept of OOC targeting to take a foothold. We know OOC targeting exists, so would you really want someone’s day to be ruined because another got a thrill out of removing his eyes from their sockets out of no where? Ascended aren’t the only ones who get passive self-healing. Liches, darkstalkers, striga and shades also have the ability to heal and regenerate damage. As Ascended are meant to combat said creatures, it makes sense they would be granted similar gifts in order to effectively use their healing abilities and not be trumped by a dark creature that could reappear with their arm reattached within any given time. Apologies for errors. Using mobile platform atm.

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Much of the excuse behind the disapproval is not the fault of the magic itself, but rather the way it is used. Magic isn’t all about zapping your opponent or blasting someone with a beam of energy. Magic also involves creation, manipulation, alteration and restoration. Healing offers a unique side to magic roleplay and gives players a different style to play with. The downside to any mechanic is that someone will ultimately try to exploit or powergame. This happens whether it is magic, melee or creature roleplay. People need to realise that the magic isn’t at fault here but instead it’s the minority of people who give it a bad wrap. The Ascended for example do face the prospect of a price in using healing magic. They transfer the damage to themselves and depending on the severity of the wound; in some cases are unable to heal or otherwise may fatally damage themselves. Healing with an equivalent exchange policy already exists, we have a magic that uses it already. Witch-hunting holy magic won’t fix the issue. Everything can be powergamed or abused. Healing magic is but a snowflake in a tundra.

Mcname: GildedDuke RP Name: Tristan Roderic Nation: Haense Age: 17

Rickard Henrik sighs softly at the news of Jack's death, displaying a tone of sorrow at the passing of his father-in-law; "May you have safe passage through the Soulstream, friend. Give my love to Elizabeth..." The Ascended would state, looking up at the star lit sky.

HOUSE OF KOVACHEV ‘By Right of Flame’ House Standing ~-~ The House Kovachev is a masterly House of the Highlands, claiming their descent and lineage as a cadet branch of the Great House of Carrion and a scion of the Raevir peoples. Originally founded by Kovac Carrion, Lord of Kovachgrad, literally ‘Kovac’s Hold’ in the tongue of ancient Raev. Once ruling as Kings in their own right; now standing as Ducal lords of Carnatia and loyal vassals to the Kingdom of Haense; faithful bannermen to their Karovic cousins in the Royal House of Barbanov, rightful Heirs to the Black Barbov and Protectors of the Highlands. Having evolved from their hardy roots, the House of Kovachev is renowned as the second greatest House of the Highlands, a step below their liege lords in House Barbanov. More so than other Houses of the Highlands, they are often heavily involved in internal affairs and when it suits them external. As a result of their status, the House is often well considered for marriage arrangements between itself and the likes of the Royal family. As is tradition, the House follows a Patriarchal lord, decided by legitimacy and direct descent of the main line, often found in the first born. In the case that no male heir exists, the female line is presented with said titles, and should the main line be all but extinct, the closest relatives are bestowed the right to such a claim. However, this can be overwritten should the ruling liege lord declare a legitimate and documented will, in which the titles can be passed to one with no affiliation to blood ties. -:Standing Patriarch:- His Grace; Stefan Viktor of House Kovachev, the first of his name; Duke of Carnatia, Count of Kovachgrad, Turov and Kvaz; Lord of the Stones. -:Standing Heir:- (Vacant) Ancient History ~-~ During the time of old Raev, the Carrion Vochna had firmly cemented its rule over the surrounding provinces and all of the area inhabited by the Raevir people from their newfound capital of Khazav. However over the generations there had been a single, unrelenting thorn in the side of House Carrion - that was to say House Nzech, who Barbov the Black had originally rebelled against and deposed, claiming Raev for himself, his sons and grandsons until the end of time. The present line of House Nzech was in fact descended from a lesser first cousin of the monarch who Barbov had deposed, who had bent the knee to the rebel forces in return for his head and his family’s castle, Ralich, and all its attendant lands. Barbov did reluctantly spare his line, however as a consequence of this, after generations had passed and Barbov had become a cold corpse in the ground, House Nzech began to speak once more about their ‘ancient rights’ to Raev and their supposed superior claim to the realm. This talk eventually took root in the courts of a number of feudal lords and slowly gained leverage in the realm until it culminated in a rebellion from House Nzech, whose lord proclaimed himself the Stone King from the mountainous border territories surrounding Ralich. This was not the first instance of House Nzech’s defiance, and would, as any learned Raevir historian knows, sadly not be the last. King Timov I, himself the great-grandsire of the ‘Old Crow’ Emperor Siegmund, sent his young and brazen nephew Kovac to raise a cohort from across the realm and put down the Stone King’s rebellion. The young lord did just that and marched through the mountain passes to the stronghold of Ralich, laying siege to the fortress. Ralich was reputed as being unconquerable and highly defensible, and the Stone King’s forces merely hid behind their walls avoiding all combat, endeavouring to sap their assailants reinforcements. Unfortunately Kovac had a similar idea, and while his own forces could be consistently replenished and supplied by King Timov’s host, the Stone King had no such luxury and was to be starved out of his castle. The lengthy siege lasted for ten and a half months after which the Stone King, trapped in his castle, decided he would sally forth and see what damage he could do to his besiegers. His cohort was utterly destroyed by Kovac’s forces and he himself was slain by Kovac in single combat, who was said to have cut him in twain with a single arc of his bardiche. His sole child and heir, Lyudmila, crowned herself from within the halls of Ralich the Stone Queen. The Stone Queen’s servants, incited by her castellan, were less than loyal to her and understood from past example what became of those who continued to oppose the dynasty of the Crow. They yielded the fortress and delivered her to Kovac trussed and hooded. As a reward for his exceptional service in the Siege of Ralich, King Timov granted his nephew Ralich and its surrounding territories which became known as Kovachgrad or Kovac’s Hold. Taking up a role as warden of the mountain passes, Kovac firmly entrenched himself within the Stone King’s old fortress, marrying Lyudmila the Stone Queen and subsequently creating House Kovachev, a cadet branch of House Carrion, taking for his sigil a feral red griffin on a black field, one of the many hardy beasts that resided in the mountains surrounding Ralich. House Nzech may have been dispossessed and pronounced extinct, but while the Stone King’s line was absorbed into House Kovachev when its patriarch wed the Stone Queen, many more and lesser lines of the house existed. Like a weed, House Nzech is known for being very difficult to eradicate, as while treasonous their roots ran deep. Descendants of the Nzechonovic dynasty are rumoured to still exist to this day. From their position in the ore-rich mountains, House Kovachev had become a house of industrious repute with famed metalwork and jewellery, their smiths and furnaces producing fine artisan works. Despite this, however, the house remained poor due to the almost complete lack of arable land in the mountains, preventing Kovachgrad from growing its own food with the exception of a few sparse berries in the boreal forests. As a result of this, fire had become a more integral part than usual in the life of the communities ruled over by Kovachev, allowing their livelihood of metals and weaponry to be produced and providing them with warmth and the hearthfire that sustained them. House Holding ~-~ An Artist's interpretation of the landscape of the Duchy of Carnatia; Vailor. Circa. 1559 The Duchy of Carnatia stands as one of the largest vassal states within the Kingdom of Haense, second only to the Principality of Akovia. In times of old, Carnatia was geographically dominant upon the northern map the realm, ruled by Houses such as Rovin, Barbanov and Sarkozic. Finally, the right and title rests with the House of Kovachev, granted at first by John I of House Horen and later reinstated by the House of Barbanov. In the modern era, Carnatia is mostly absorbed within the crownlands of Haense itself, with no true dominant or distinct territory of its own. Rather, the title is used in forms of presentation within court and a courteous display of status amongst the other nobles of the realm. However, in difficult times and when called upon, Carnatia may yet still rally men loyal to its cause. House Titles ~-~ King of Akovia (Formerly) Duke of Carnatia Count of Kovachgrad Count of Karovia (Formerly) Count of Turov Count of Kvaz Count of Ayr (Formerly) Baron of Valwyk Lords of the Stones House Relics ~-~ The Bardiche of Kovac Karovic- A large Ruskan styled war-axe, almost reaching the size of a halberd and demanding a great deal of strength to carry into battle. The weapon was once wielded by Kovac himself, said to have been used to cut the Stone King in twain with a single arc. Often times the patriarch of House Kovachev is seen carrying this weapon into battle, hence the blade has often been in need of repair and has been reforged many times so that it may remain in a usable condition. The Crown of Ralich- Fashioned within Ralich by the House of Nzech as a symbol of their false Royalty, the Crown was seized by Kovac Carrion following the capture of Ralich and extinction of House Nzech. Since then the rusted iron crown has been kept as a trophy by the House of Kovachev for many ages, a reminder of their past and a testimony of strength to all other Houses, friend or foe. Culture ~-~ Carnatian outriders, battling the Courlandic and Kraijian scourge upon the outskirts of Riga; Circa. 1563. Ethnically, the House of Kovachev are Highlanders, established in ancient times as Raevir by their Karovic roots. Though despite this, over time they have differentiated greatly in traditions and mindsets. They are often considered a hybrid predominantly with the native Northerners of old, and very much differentiate themselves from the typical Raevir otherwise, with exceptions being in their name and prideful history. If ever inquired upon, a modern Kovac would declare themselves being that of Haensetic or Northern culture. As an inner circle, the House of Kovachev uphold a strict sense of loyalty. Loyalty to one’s liege lord is commendable, but loyalty to your family is the greatest honour one could achieve. A Kovac who turns their back on their family is no Kovac at all. This sets them apart in contrast to other Houses of Haense, such as their Karovic cousins in House Ruthern. From a religious standpoint, the House of Kovachev once declared themselves as followers of the Ruskan Orthodoxy, though now in the modern day they are staunch Canonists and believers in the faith. Yet despite this, religion does not dictate their livelihood, nor does it constraint them from criticism or a more open-minded outlook in situational circumstances. Kovachev’s also have a deep interest in political exchanges or otherwise the battlefield. Traditionally the sons of Kovac have served in administrative positions, often times being one of military authority such as Marshal. Said positions have been held in the past by numerous notable figures; including Varon of Akovia and Jan of Carnatia. Kovachev’s educate themselves in battle-tactics and very few have little experience with a weapon of some form. Most Kovachev’s will experience battle at the sprouting age of twelve or thirteen; they start young. Not only distinct in their words, fire is an integral part of House Kovachev and their history. It is from fire did they build their name and within fire they bind themselves. Fire is also an integral part of a Kovachev’s funeral. Rather than being buried, a pyre is believed to be the purest way a soul may move on; from which their the ashes are collected and stored. These jars are then in turn buried. For any Kovachev not to be cremated, it is treated as a grave injury to the House as a whole, regardless of whom that may be. Physical attributes ~-~ Typically the descendants of the Kovac-Karovic line are robust, tall and broad men, with most claiming light hair that ranges from flaxen to dirty blonde. Most are thick-bearded and the members of the noble line almost always possess the deep-green eyes of their Karovic forefathers or alternatively a shade of steel-blue eyes. Females typically share similar traits, often growing taller than an average woman, though they are less so robust and broad, emphasising a slimmer and composed build. Traditionally, Kovachev’s are prone to wearing heavy furs and woven materials, suitable for the cold climate of the highlands. This includes the pelts of bears, otters, stags and wolves. Their clothing is often coloured red, black, orange and in some cases even green, usually in relation to their House colours or personalities. They're quite critical on presentation. To battle, a Kovac is described to be seen carrying a battle axe and rounded shield. Encased in a suit of armour striked with a red gryphon and astride a mighty Carnatian warhorse. The Kovachev’s are lovers of melee and cavalry combat, often in the thick of battle and at other times acting as dragoons with compound mounted bows. (OOC Note: This is a rewrite to bring an up to date perspective of the House and its lore. Likewise it's preferable that personal aspects of the post itself are not metagamed or otherwise commented upon with no roleplay knowledge. Thank you.)

Rickard Henrik places down the parchments of history, sorting them into his collection of noble Houses of the human realm; "An interesting folk, no doubt about that." The Ascended adding another book to the ever-growing shelf.

This also affected me. I made a status update relating to the issue earlier. I can’t access any of the topics recently relevant to Curon.

In the case of Vaeyl, he eventually regains his memories, this can be achieved through the Vaeyl Ordermen acquiring it forcefully or simply the current holders of the fragments unknowingly returning them to a specific location where the recently awakened Vaeyl lies some what dormant in a comatose state (Vaeyl does not require all his memories to exert himself, rather he requires all of them to achieve his full strength). From here on out, Vaeyl seeks to re-establish his dominion in the south, preparing to challenge the nations northwards with an assembly of the Order, including a dragon, far greater than they had ever witnessed prior in places such as Haense.

A young Stefan Kovachev looks up from his tutorage, the Ducal heir accepting a sealed envelope. “So a House long since deprived of prestige calls for titles they lack true status in holding... I’m confused, do Sarkozic want the titles of Ruska, or the further illegitimate Ivanovich?” The Gryphon would shrug, tossing the missive into the fire before replying with a previous recorded document, dated within the current century. https://www.lordofthecraft.net/forums/topic/161085-the-first-national-duma-12th-of-the-amber-cold-1612/

"The Curonians made the right choice. May the other nations of the NAA see reason in their words..." States Arthur, displaying a proud salute.

"As I recall, the men who attacked the church were in fact Renatus and Ivanovich men. This was confirmed by multiple witnesses and the Duke Kovachev himself. Also, I recall hearing that Antonious Horen, who was brought to trial for his involvement in the deed, was not executed but allowed free after killing a man in combat. Your manipulation of history is commendable but ultimately pathetic... I see now this is not a legitimate response, but rather the twitches of an Aeldin boot-licker." States Arthur Othaman, eyes squinting at the poorly formatted response.

"Coltaine Wick was never pardoned nor opened back with open arms. Any activity of his within the city of Markev has not been regulated or otherwise unknown. Of course the Order of Saint Lucien wouldn't care however, they're too busy looking for an excuse to commit mass Highlandic genocide and kiss the boots of House Horen. Well done for demonising an entire population, though that's expected with a defunct religious order..." States Arthur Othaman; pinching the bridge of his nose in utter cringe from the Lucienist's poor use of vocabulary.

Full Name: Arthur Othaman Date of Birth: 1638 Race: Human-Highlander Gender: Male Birth Place [I.E: Kingdom of Haense, Crownsland, Saint Karlsburg.]: Haense Status of Blood [Nobility, Gentry, Commoner, Former Nobility, etc.]: Former Nobility Name your purpose for enlisting: Fulfilling an Othaman's duty... To fight for House Barbanov. OOC: Username: GildedDuke Timezone: GMT/BST Discord: You have it.

Haensetic Warriors, adorning the Arms of Tuvic, driving deep into enemy Dreadlandic lines. Circa. 1572 Arthur Othaman grins, strapping upon himself the Arms of Tuvic, Hansetian bear-cloak hanging from his shoulders. "For House Barbanov! We Come As Crows!"

Arthur Othaman would read the missive with approval; "Indeed, the Church has been twisted into an entity of corruption..." The armoured Crow would state, going back to sliding a whetstone over the length of his zweihander.