[Your View] Metagaming

[Wyvernbane 252]

Just now, drfate786 said:

 

Banning them? Let's not ban people for that, a warning for first offences and possible villainy blacklists for further offences should be used. Bans are last resorts and should never be used unless needed, we can't enforce rules through fear.

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You get my point though. More-so just making it punishable. 

[drfate786 1690]

1 hour ago, The Wyvernbane said:

You get my point though. More-so just making it punishable. 

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Yeah, I agree. Let's offer people who actually can't help but metagame counselling though, some people are just so used to doing it that it comes naturally to them. I sometimes metagame without realizing it and only realize what I did an hour or two later. It's essential not to give people absolute **** while offering them sound advice to stop that behavior in the first place. 

[Sporadic 2843]

People make a good point about skype rallying and "people being in the area ICly", but the opposite must also be considered. Specifically, if something BAD befalls the area your character is ICly in you can choose OOCly to simply not log in. Thus you avoid the consequences even though your character "is there". It's this OOC pick and choosing of skype rallying that makes it bad.

 

The main issue, in any case, is the fact that people are going to skype rally anyway. If you forbid it, some players will stick to it, but be at a disadvantage to the rule breakers. They are then pressured to break the rule themselves. This is obviously very bad.

[Detective 101]

How I see it. In a real fight, say, four people. Unless you sent a bird off rply before the fight occurred, I'd like to think that logically, the fight lasts no more than 10 minutes icly. Which means, people who were birded only arrive way after the fight happened.

 

Kids that claim to be on patrol, seen it a lot. For combat, when it is already underway and you have messaged someone via bird, you cannot get involved. Only to pick up the pieces. In crp, this all has to do with ic time, to ooc time. Use a system of ooc to rp time so that other parties cannot get involved till much later.

[Wendigo 786]

30 minutes ago, Detective said:

Kids that claim to be on patrol, seen it a lot. For combat, when it is already underway and you have messaged someone via bird, you cannot get involved. Only to pick up the pieces. In crp, this all has to do with ic time, to ooc time. Use a system of ooc to rp time so that other parties cannot get involved till much later.

This happens a lot. You're in the middle of an emote and group comes up faster than the Flash in terms of ooc time compared to IC time. Usually when I get a bird I take as much time as possible getting to the location, after that I pretty much search everywhere BUT where the giants names are floating just to cover my bases if it's a non generic letter like 'Come to Alderburg, help!'.  Most of the time you see groups or individuals go straight towards the RP like they have x-ray vision or something.

[Nathan_Barnett36 1564]

3 hours ago, Sporadic said:

People make a good point about skype rallying and "people being in the area ICly", but the opposite must also be considered. Specifically, if something BAD befalls the area your character is ICly in you can choose OOCly to simply not log in. Thus you avoid the consequences even though your character "is there". It's this OOC pick and choosing of skype rallying that makes it bad.

 

The main issue, in any case, is the fact that people are going to skype rally anyway. If you forbid it, some players will stick to it, but be at a disadvantage to the rule breakers. They are then pressured to break the rule themselves. This is obviously very bad.

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What happens to your character in roleplay and within lotc lore, when you log out? Your character would be where u logged out regardless if you're not online. If you logged out of your settlement and it gets raided, you should be able to log on to defend it.

[_Noah_ 7]

I think a plugin should be made where you require some paper (maybe ink and a feather also) and then you could do something like /bird [name] [text] with a delay between sending and arrival based on distance (If possible otherwise just a delay) and then show something in local RP like *[NAME] sends a bird away* And if possible a way of detecting if a bird can leave your area, And also let guard forces use Skype/Discord because sending to many people is just painful.

[The Templar 195]

Oh lovely, this again? Just require folks to RPly train and house their birds. Call it what you want, but if you aren't a druid, why is this random bird following you around and obeying you? If you're sending birds, you should have a legitimate reason to possess them in the first place. Birds need to be housed, fed, and kept warm during winter. Are you some awesome order boss guy who needs to contact men in the field? Go make friends with a druid/someone whose really bloody good with animals, and obtain some legit trained couriers, and keep them in your specially built birdhouse. Are you some evil edgy that drinks the blood of living things and terrifies adorable creatures? Well, that's a good point. I would say buy a reanimated bird from a necromancer, but I'm pretty sure that isn't possible. Find someone who isn't the scourge of all that is cute and cuddly, and make them handle your correspondence instead.

 

Alright alright, so here's my point, since I rambled on and I don't want to delete the rambles. You should only be able to send birds from a GM-approved birdhouse, with a GM signing off that yes, your birds/undead abomination/cuddly kitty/underpaid minimum-wage slave courier, are in fact legitly obtained. After they're sent, yeah who cares let them go to the player rather than forcing people to ping eachother on skype or discord to check their inbox. What is this, 2001? Ain't nobody got time to check their mineman email! Just make it so that you cannot send birds regarding combat until after the event is settled, which would include anything that could potentially be considered as leading up to combat.

Oh, and skype-rallying? Meh, I find this attempt to prevent us from defending our homes to be pretty asinine. If you're some no-name edgy punk whose banditing a city in it's RP hot-spots, you deserve to have the guards smash you to bits. Be smart and lure people out into the wilderness or something instead of whining, good grief!

[User 366]

remove skype

[tourmalina 36]

IF there were actual parrot messengers, how would one acquire a parrot? From markets?

[monkeypoacher 8055]

Whether Skype rallying is allowed or not, people who were not present when a fight started are not allowed to join until it ends. Suffice to say people who log on after a fight starts should not be able to join and swing the fight in either direction. This rule works pretty well to stop "meta squad 6" scenarios even when it's impossible to tell what medium people are screaming "dunamis in petrus!!!" on. 

[Rusty Derringer 1182]

If I want to RP my character carrying around a pidgeon in his butthole, that's none of your business.

[Vezzin 151]

Oh boy,, I'd really hate to see roleplay become restricted to the server only, as I can only get online maybe twice a month. It'd put teaching magics out of the question for me. 

[JustMeMorgan 2065]

The last question is like saying 'do you want to play LOTC for what LOTC is made for' 

[Chorale__ 2147]

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