server direction poll

[argonian 12840]

Notice before raids is the dumbest thing ever. Think you guys can pack up and forget about this whole "dyNaMiC rOlEpLaY" thing.

 

I am literally the only person who can fix PVP at this point. The rest of you cannot even comprehend the idea of a conflict system that isn't either (a) no conflict (thanks Elves) or (b) filling out a 3-page bureaucratic waiver and submitting it to your local DMV GM to obtain the privilege of pulling your teeth out ohne Betäubung for the next 3 ******* years.

[saint swag 2447]

10 hours ago, Laeonathan said:

Sorry but if you think the server is in such a bad state, you either joined after 2021

 

i'd take athera-vailor vibe over the current state in a heartbeat. hell, even atlas was significantly more fun

 

these posts r so shit btw

[_pr0fit 2945]

6 hours ago, Amayonnaise said:

I am very confused as to why so many people are voting 'yes' on having notice about being raided. I would love some additional insight and perspectives on the matter-

 

My current main concern is that it is literally encouraging metagaming. By giving Nations notice, you are encouraging the Nation to meta-rally. It will happen, every single time, without fail. And if they're not meta-rallying, they're all logging off - especially the PRO's who want to avoid getting PK'd etc. I just don't understand why this is such a popular option?

 

You have to take into account more than just its rp or else its meta, this is a videogame and people are coming here to have fun.

 

In the current conflict between the frostbeards and Norland, both sides agree that there should be a warning system because the frostbeards don't want to have to fight solely rp'ers who are just trying to rp and have fun (but don't want to pvp), and Norland doesn't want to spend 20+ minutes ringing the bell and getting people online to pvp, its boring for everyone.

 

additionally being raided is a very jarring experience for many players, especially people who focus solely on rp who will understandably be very distraught and upset, or newer players who will be very confused and scared of what is happening.

 

by giving notice you are allowing the "guards" to show up to be ready when the raiders arrive, and the people who will not enjoy the experience to get an out (These are good things by the way.) And it should be repeated as often as possible since many people forget, this IS minecraft, its a videogame, and people are coming here for fun, that should take precedent over everything else (Outside safety of course :))

[Amayonnaise 1535]

7 minutes ago, _pr0fit said:

 

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That's a good way to put it. I was genuinely confused by the results of the poll, because it looked like it was just encouraging blatant metagaming, but I suppose having a more organised response would be better for those who genuinely do want to engage, and those who don't.

 

I suppose it would also make assassination attempts more commonplace, when a raid warning can send the PRO offline. I feel like this sort of system would require some proper thought - are we going to restrict reactions when a raid warning is sent out, or permit some meta rallying / logging in seek of a more enjoyable RP/PVP experience?

[argonian 12840]

46 minutes ago, _pr0fit said:

 

You have to take into account more than just its rp or else its meta, this is a videogame and people are coming here to have fun.

 

In the current conflict between the frostbeards and Norland, both sides agree that there should be a warning system because the frostbeards don't want to have to fight solely rp'ers who are just trying to rp and have fun (but don't want to pvp), and Norland doesn't want to spend 20+ minutes ringing the bell and getting people online to pvp, its boring for everyone.

 

additionally being raided is a very jarring experience for many players, especially people who focus solely on rp who will understandably be very distraught and upset, or newer players who will be very confused and scared of what is happening.

 

by giving notice you are allowing the "guards" to show up to be ready when the raiders arrive, and the people who will not enjoy the experience to get an out (These are good things by the way.) And it should be repeated as often as possible since many people forget, this IS minecraft, its a videogame, and people are coming here for fun, that should take precedent over everything else (Outside safety of course :))

this just shows how OOC and retarded raids are now.

 

if ppl just wanna do little pvp practice skirms then sure but that isn't roleplay.

 

maybe instead of giving a 20 min notice to meta-rally, go there and rp for 20 mins instead. instead of running into town "*draws swords* ((PVP LOCK))" you could go in and individually hold citizens at swordpoint, imprison them, etc. kill some, capture others, maybe just rob them etc. the usual (valid) excuse for not doing that is that meta-rallying is annoying and gets even worse when you have to wait til everyone's """ready""" and then call a GM magistrate to adjudicate, but if you're already exposing yourself to metarally nonsense regardless than i see no reason not to roleplay on a roleplay server.

 

to be clear i'm not blaming you or yours, or raiders in general, for how batshit raids are. that's the result of absolutely mindbogglingly terrible rules down the years. just pointing out how dumb it's gotten.

[unlegiqDuck 170]

On 8/16/2023 at 1:15 PM, marikandaperc said:

 

I mean it could always be added as a sort of RP thing. "Your scouts tell you there is enemies nearing!! boo!!" 

 

Either way, I voted yes because for how I see it if a raid is pre-announced only people who actually want to deal with it will stay. That will avoid a lot of arguments and you won't be stuck in rp with a person who just won't cooperate

Even if it is in RP, people would rally an entire army or all stay safe thus making raids pointless