The New Villainy Blacklist

[James 425]

I don't really partake in any villainous actions on any of my active characters, but I love that this has been implemented as I believe most villain RP has turned into "Pixels or Die"

 

+1

[Reckless Banzai Screamer 15456]

I think its a good step in the right direction so long as the staff can handle enforcing it. It might be kind of shakey.

[VampsWillDie 76]

[osumanduas 1442]

Not throwing out any ideas for them, but the only way this will work is if it's either Pure RP default like it used to be, or people having to make Raid VAs.

I know this from experience on RS rp. It was player enforced aswell, not staff. Lets hope they can keep up with this notion.

 

On this rare occasion I agree with the Waldian. That said, I personally think the system we've had with zero va's or blacklists of the sort worked fine for months all through summer and before that as well. If it isn't broken or lacking I really don't see the point in even trying to fix something that is fine to start off with. Furthermore if you wanted to regulate it in the first place this should have been started then, rather then now, why sit on something for months, realize it works, then once again re-lay restrictions after a small minority of the community demands it?. Yet another issue with this is that it goes against the players freedoms to non-nonchalantly rp what they wish, assuming proposed rules are as black and white as they appear. 

 

Discuss this stuff with the community, as I for one was kind of blindsided by this as it seems to have come from nowhere

[Nug 2011]

-praying emoji-

[Lima 774]

If it isn't broken or lacking I really don't see the point in even trying to fix something that is fine to start off with.

But it was broken. 

[osumanduas 1442]

Are you going to state off your reasons or leave with a statement? Banditry happens, this is a game that involves Items and no game can run without some sort of risk. It was not broken as it introduced dynamic RP and lets players have more freedom with their characters?

 

If anything is related to the problem of Villian RP it is PVP Default. as with it a deeper sense of RP cannot be achieved do to the shortening it creates. 

[Lima 774]

Are you going to state off your reasons or leave with a statement? Banditry happens, this is a game that involves Items and no game can run without some sort of risk. It was not broken as it introduced dynamic RP and lets players have more freedom with their characters?

 

If anything is related to the problem of Villian RP it is PVP Default.

However if someone usually even mentions trying to resolve this they almost always get reprimanded by the community of PVPers. I honestly still hold the opinion that PVP does not result in satisfying RP in any ways bar full scale warclaims.

The vilanny system would indeed by fixed by this. I indeed penned a full fledged document that detailed the creation of a 3 tier VA for common evil, greater evil and raid pass VA's. There wouldn't be questions of "Do you have a VA for that" due to the general scale and wide reach of the VA's.

I honestly feel that while a blacklisting system is indeed a good idea as a tool for the GM's to use, it does not go far enough to curve the issue. The system of villainy is fundamentally broke at the moment due to the fact that so many people basically play high school drama with a fantasy roleplay mixxed in with large amounts of trolling. 

You have to go a long way to find quality roleplay. When I say find I mean find people to generate it with, because half the time when you try and create a RP situation their some form of trolly character or the literally a character with the developmental capacity of a rock. Rip off characters from anime galore people need to be moderated on RP quality, originality and how they present it. We can't say we support RP on this server by just saying "Hopefully the community will RP."

The way the server has been pushed further and further towards PVP systems with the tech team leaves me skeptical on if the server should have been advertised for the last year as a RP server or a RPG-PVP server. 

 

Continue to push for RP moderation and focus on it by staff, RP quality will sustain this server and RP is what this server is about. 

[Sister Sequoia 438]

So it's a good idea in concept but I don't doubt people will just get alt accounts and do banditry on that while they wait for the blacklist on their main persona to end.

If their alt accounts are found doing this, expect their temporary Blacklisting to become much more permanent, just like ban evading on alt accounts extends the duration of your ban.

 

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I am in agreement.  We are not a RP server like we claim, we are RPG-PVP and I believe we have lost sight of the fact that we are degrading the RP experience.  Our plugins focus on improving either RPG or PVP, or both, but we have very little that supports improving RP itself, it's just shiney fancy things we don't REALLY need.  Even the magic plugin is just to facilitate PVP on a supposedly RP server, so I have to ask if RP is really what some people have come to this server for?

[bungo 3965]

Craotor the Ork smiles.

 

I HATE violence that is why I took up the cloth.  I hate villains and It is good you are killing them all so that both I and the small children of the orphanage will not cry teers.  It actually infuriates me when I see violence happening because it leads to children shooting up schools so good job I say.  We have already had one too many breakdowns due to the violence that has occurred.  I believe we should instate guidance councilors to help with those who were scarred by violence within this realm.

 

Thank you,

Craotor the Ork

[MamaBearJade 2090]

*takes a deep breath*

 

Yes!

[Mephistophelian 977]

Inb4 people going "wohooo" are the ones getting blacklisted :')

Only joking, I like this new rule thing!

[GodEmperorFlam 3447]

 

On this rare occasion I agree with the Waldian. That said, I personally think the system we've had with zero va's or blacklists of the sort worked fine for months all through summer and before that as well. If it isn't broken or lacking I really don't see the point in even trying to fix something that is fine to start off with. Furthermore if you wanted to regulate it in the first place this should have been started then, rather then now, why sit on something for months, realize it works, then once again re-lay restrictions after a small minority of the community demands it?. Yet another issue with this is that it goes against the players freedoms to non-nonchalantly rp what they wish, assuming proposed rules are as black and white as they appear. 

 

Discuss this stuff with the community, as I for one was kind of blindsided by this as it seems to have come from nowhere

 

Going to have to disagree. If you've followed the feedback part of the forums and that other thread by Katherine1, you would see this didn't "come from nowhere", there's been complaints for months about the rise of "minas or die" or "tribute ur flatz" banditry.

 

That being said, as long as your villain RP is fine and you aren't a shitty "Minas or Die" bandit, this shouldn't really have much impact on you.

[Detective 101]

One word: "Fantastic."

[Anderssn 1115]

You should probably also make some guidelines for what people are allowed to do and shouldn't allowed? Some people don't see the dkfference between good and bad villan rp.