A Clarification On Half Breeds

[PtahWithin 1320]

Before I begin my point, LMs what is the reason for Elves being immortal and Dwarves, for example, being at their prime at about 400-500, dying around 1000? I do not recall a curse similar to the human one being put on the Dwarves.

[VonEbs 1224]

I do not believe elves are immortal, just long lived. I have never seen one over like 900, and then, they are very very old looking and frail. The elves are not immortal, and I do not think they should be rped as such.

[CountJuno88 230]

This whole page of questions could be answered if everyone went and read the end of the Ancient History. All these answers lie within it.

[DecoLamb 959]

I'm not changing a character I've been rping with for almost a year. Nope.

[PtahWithin 1320]

I'm not changing a character I've been rping with for almost a year. Nope.

From what I understand no one is asking you to kill your character off, just contact an LM to find a reason why you would remain alive for so long.

[danic 352]

Half-Elves have always been people's way of cheating ageing as a human, "But I have 3% Elven blood!" they cried.

Anyways... People, People, PLEASE. You act as if a single day IRL is 60 years IC. Last time I checked on the wiki, 1 year IC is about 7-8 days IRL. That would mean 1 IRL month is around ~4 years. Let's be generous and say an average human lives until 80. Now, if 1 month is 4 years, that would mean a single YEAR IRL (Keep in mind the server has been up for a year), is 48 years IC. That would mean if you started the character at age 20, you would only be 68 years old after an entire year IRL. With about roughly ~12 IC years left (3 month IRL) left IF your character lived to exactly 80, you could die of age earlier or maybe even to 100 if you wish.

So, next time you're complaining about "omg time goes by so fast unfair age death", keep this in mind.

Disclaimer; This is purely off of estimating on time, basing on it the current time we have now and ignoring previous time passing used on the server. Math done is not promised as 100% reliable.

Edit: This is not an order or whatever for you to obey ageing, you may do whatever your jolly soul desires.

[Lago 2572]

Before I begin my point, LMs what is the reason for Elves being immortal and Dwarves, for example, being at their prime at about 400-500, dying around 1000? I do not recall a curse similar to the human one being put on the Dwarves.

Elves are very long lived, I doubt they're truly immortal. Human bodies wear out faster than the other races, which is why they're short lived.

EDIT: We've no intention of just leaving half-elves that would be dead as humans in the awkward situation they're dumped in. There's no expectation for you all to just drop dead or sprout white beards. We'll work something out.

[CloakandDagger 134]

I dislike this post...

By concertina "your" lore and "your" facts. You've alienated the players and their characters who have been built upon things contrary to what you have stated. Why you've chosen to do this will forever elude me - but iI digress it sees as though lotc has been heading in this direction for awhile...

Suppose a player's character is a half breed let's say half elf half human. Using the commonly held belief in lost fantasy realms that elves have long lives they created a character who've they been playing for (a long time). With this "ruling" you've effectively shunted thier character's growth so that a few people would be happy with the lore.

[Garret Baretta (preston19) 29]

Definatly needed to be said.

[Alan 1815]

What I simply don't understand is how humans live to 180... we cannot even do that now, and the average lifespan back then had to be like 35, maybe 55 if you lived past childhood. It seems like the human curse is not effecting them at all, and by the time your character is 180, you have lived through most of the history of the server. I feel that the human lifespan needs to be reigned in, the most being like 80 or 90, and then you would be little more then a crumpled old man. End immortal humanity.

This is why people are so skeptical about humans, because they always base them off of IRL humans (AKA us, for the nooblets out there). There is no "back then" when referring to how long humans lived IRL, we are only concerned with this server. Humans rarely lived to 50 "back then" IRL due to things such as disease, but if actually considered such factors as influential in LotC as they are in real life, then ALL races would rarely live past 50, not just humans. There's also factors on this server such as magic that obviously aren't present IRL that allow races to counteract such factors. This is a fantasy server after all, so there is nothing wrong with saying that humans can live past 100 easily. Personally, I have no problem with humans having a max age of 150, which really isn't that far off from the 180 that the Adunians generally live to.

[TwilightWolf 901]

I feel this was very needed, I had always found it somewhat fishy that alot of half elves/humans with elven blood assume both blessings rather than curses :huh:. Unfortunately, this means that my own personal work on this topic is now useless, as this entire post literally encompasses everything that I was writing about! :P Thanks for the clarification, hopefully this will do nothing but benefit the server

[GavinTheViking 151]

There goes 1/3 of Oren nobles, and about 1/3 of the orcs + all of Zogtar's kids.

[MetaSolaray 242]

I had assume the shorten human curse of life span would work in half or terms against the elven blessing, both were given by an aengul demones creature of power, so one shouldn't completely negate the other, they work hand in hand, that's why half breeds don't have elven life span, but instead a shorten one, half of a thousand years is 500 years of life expectancy cut...

[GavinTheViking 151]

I had assume the shorten human curse of life span would work in half or terms against the elven blessing, both were given by an aengul demones creature of power, so one shouldn't completely negate the other, they work hand in hand, that's why half breeds don't have elven life span, but instead a shorten one, half of a thousand years is 500 years of life expectancy cut...

Nope, it clearly says the curse is dominant and the blessing is recessive. So a human/elf would have infertility and a short life.

[Casamir 42]

What was the previous generally accepted lifespan for a half-elf? About 200ish?

I was told 200 when I made mine (And I was told that was being the relatively short lifespan that most people accepted for half elf)

When we updated dates and time keeping way back in early Asulon when days were 40 minutes, it was set to around 42 IC years for 1 IRL year. This was before the days were increased to 60 minutes, which makes it more like 30 IC years for one IRL year. This means that, if the plugin was working, a human character who was actually RPing for 100 years (Say they began RPing at 25 and died at 125), that's over three years of RP on the server, about twice as long as the server has actually been up.

Sure it may be too late now for some humans, which is why they find reasons to live longer because we do not force anyone to kill off their character due to old age. However, you can't really complain when you start your character as an old man of maybe 90 or 100, even though that still gives you more than a year of RP.

I started Casamir at the age of 18 in about the final quarter of Aegis, I was told that the time from Aegis' end to the end of Asulon was 70-80 IC years. (By a few GMS in a status when I was asking how long it was from the end of Aegis to the start of 3.0 lore wise years to see if I would still be below the 200 I was limiting myself)

which would make casamir as of current age about 90. (I was doing a he looks and feels half his age thing, kill him off at 200 cause that is when he'd look and feel 100)