Vote On The Way Combat Should Work!

[Dyn 149]

Guys, remember Telanir's upcoming plugin. 

If you haven't watched the livestream, go watch it /now/.

 

The plugin simply makes the game more RPG like rather than actual roleplaying.

 

People don't understand that the concept of fighting RPly is still there. They automatically think that they'll die in a fight now. The problem the staff team did was that they didn't explain the situation well enough to those who still don't grasp the concept that RP is still an option, even with PvP default.

Again, it's simply like playing some RPG like Runescape or something. You level up skills and supposedly have those, but really, the combat is just basically who can click faster.

[gg12gg 69]

Too many people voted who have no understanding about the new plugins coming in the near future, that will work great with PVP default and ensure it's always done in RP. People need to effing read up on the facts before voting, instead of mindlessly going "WAAAAH MUH RP :((((((("

[Agnub 605]

People don't understand that the concept of fighting RPly is still there. They automatically think that they'll die in a fight now. The problem the staff team did was that they didn't explain the situation well enough to those who still don't grasp the concept that RP is still an option, even with PvP default.

If anything it feels like even before the situation the person has decided whether they want it to resort to PvP or not. As in Aegis it seemed more like those trying to kill you for whatever reason did the RP reluctantly and rather shallowly just so they could get to the point of killing you. The RP before a fight was treated more as something miserable that had to be gotten through reluctantly before they could do what they truly wanted which was to PvP you and take all your items - at least that was the majority of my encounters with bandits and criminals in Aegis.

[ARCHITECUS 4788]

WAAAAH MUH RP :(((((((

[Dyn 149]

Too many people voted who have no understanding about the new plugins coming in the near future, that will work great with PVP default and ensure it's always done in RP. People need to effing read up on the facts before voting, instead of mindlessly going "WAAAAH MUH RP :((((((("

Please, "effing" explain this to me what I obviously haven't read up on. If I wanted an RPG, I'd play on an RPG server or that thing Vaq invited everyone to.

[KoTo 610]

The plugin simply makes the game more RPG like rather than actual roleplaying.

 

Again, it's simply like playing some RPG like Runescape or something. You level up skills and supposedly have those, but really, the combat is just basically who can click faster.

People don't seem to realize that you can still RP FIGHT even if this system is put in place. If you really have the urge to spend an hour fighting while you could do something more productive, less stressful and enjoyable, and you get into a conflict situation where the other party really wishes to PvP, you can still run away.

[argonian 14254]

In case you guys didn't notice, PVP was default until mid-Asulon. A lot of the Asulonians don't seem to realise that they were around when PVP was default(but not that commonly used) and there was no "Minas or die!" and all that.

[Rhonir 16]

I feel that RP fights should take priority over PvP fights, and that PvP should only be done if both parties are willing. 

[Zarkan80 2]

If the vote is in favor of the Rp default, will it make certain bans null/void (AKA mine but it will be over by the time it would take for the new system to take affect)

[Gorum© 623]

I'm impressed, LOTC.

You complain about people crying too much OOC and causing drama...

Yet you pick the option the LEADS TO MORE OOC DRAMA ON THIS SERVER THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

Good job, y'all.

Haha, this is so true.

I said this like three times already, but I will say it again. Why should a plugin developer waste his time creating this professions plugin, all these new weapons, all these new perks and benefits, for it to only be there in your inventory? Why would time be wasted to create it for it to only be optional. I dont see why people look forward to the professions plugin if they will get absolutely nothing out of it at this rate.

[Agnub 605]

I'm impressed, LOTC.

 

You complain about people crying too much OOC and causing drama...

 

Yet you pick the option the LEADS TO MORE OOC DRAMA ON THIS SERVER THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

 

Good job, y'all.

No need to throw out the entire system because of drama (which would also occur with a PvP based system; if I recall it was the exact PvP system that caused VAs to be created due to the drama PvP created). There are solutions to solve the OOC bickering such as more clearly outlined RP fighting rules and things such as rolling to solve combat impasses. 

 

If both parties agree then the fight can go to PvP as those that like to solve their issues with PvP can do so with a likeminded person.

 

And if people don't want to spend the time to RP with somebody they're trying to kill they can always go to the Wilds or fight mobs.

[Dry Crackers 268]

People don't understand that the concept of fighting RPly is still there. They automatically think that they'll die in a fight now. The problem the staff team did was that they didn't explain the situation well enough to those who still don't grasp the concept that RP is still an option, even with PvP default.

 

Yes the announcement was clumsy, but if PvP is default PvP-hungry players could (probably) force players who'd rather RP into PvP, just as now the PvPers are forced to RP.  I forsee massive amounts of pain for fluffy characters who will get jumped by 5-10 White Rose bandits/thugs whatever, and forced to PvP.  Perhaps the thugs are item-hungry or not, still less fun for the other guy.  The idea that you can force PvP on someone is just ridiculous and will put lots of the peaceful or good RPers at the complete mercy of item-hungry idiots who got VAs because of their item-hungry idiot friends.  Encourage PvP, don't require it.

[Stephensj 327]

To all the people saying ''This is a roleplay server and you removing the roleplay!'' Let me point some things out to you.

 

Unless your character fights every person he/she meets, this isn't taking away much. You still roleplay everything else, like talking to people, doing you job, going to the tavern, etc. The PvP just allows fights that usually take 30 minutes shorter, and less frustrating.  I really don't think this is changing much. I have a computer that gets 30 FPS max, but I still think that this would cut down on the ban reports, and make things go along smoothly.  Though, I do believe if this is accepted, Telanirs racial plugin should be brought in so it would balance things out during fights aswell. Also, you always have the option to ask the person if they could RP that fight, and I bet you that if you ask nicely, most people will agree.

 

Now, go relax, snuggle some kittens, and try not to let this upset you too much :)

[argonian 14254]

Yes the announcement was clumsy, but if PvP is default PvP-hungry players could (probably) force players who'd rather RP into PvP, just as now the PvPers are forced to RP.  I forsee massive amounts of pain for fluffy characters who will get jumped by 5-10 White Rose bandits/thugs whatever, and forced to PvP.  Perhaps the thugs are item-hungry or not, still less fun for the other guy.  The idea that you can force PvP on someone is just ridiculous and will put lots of the peaceful or good RPers at the complete mercy of item-hungry idiots who got VAs because of their item-hungry idiot friends.  Encourage PvP, don't require it.

Wait, so bandits currently can't attack peaceful RPers/fluffy characters? None of that argument made any sense to me. And plus, we have the knockout plugin so PVP doesn't help item-hungry people.

[chaotikal 2392]

I just want to state something clearly.

 

I vote for RP Default because my characters, if on PVP default, would depend on me as an OOC persona, my OOC computer, my OOC internet (Which is 100 kbp/s, possibly the slowest of the server.), and my OOC skill to spam-click. I'm almost always beaten in PVP, and I want to say I'm full-out against this.

 

I have to ask, STaff. While many, many people voted for PVP Default, most voted for other options, what will come to them?