[✗] [Creature] The Shapeshifter

[drfate786 1639]

11 hours ago, imthebaddestb said:

maybe because it is possible icly but lt don't want players shifting into that oocly due to conflicts? also +1 for this piece of lore

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So? You can't bar someone from doing something that is IC'ly possible just because "oh it's unfair". 

[Smaw 2368]

13 minutes ago, drfate786 said:

 

So? You can't bar someone from doing something that is IC'ly possible just because "oh it's unfair". 

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Dragons are enormous, so you cant feasibly illusion yourself into one. Unless you stand by a massive rock and cast an illusion on that as well as yourself; which even then renders you immobile.

Edited October 25, 2017 by Smaw

[drfate786 1639]

1 minute ago, Smaw said:

 

Dragons are enormous, so you cant feasibly illusion yourself into one. Unless you stand by a massive rock and cast an illusion on that as well as yourself; which even then renders you immobile.

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These aren't illusions, shapeshifters actually become what they're shapeshifting into.

[Smaw 2368]

Just now, drfate786 said:

 

These aren't illusions, shapeshifters actually become what they're shapeshifting into.

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Well then, it makes even less sense. How can you add that amount of flesh? 

 

It seeems altogether impossible, and for good reason.

[drfate786 1639]

2 minutes ago, Smaw said:

 

Well then, it makes even less sense. How can you add that amount of flesh? 

 

It seeems altogether impossible, and for good reason.

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How can you add that amount of flesh? Simple, get a dragon or wyvern's corpse and then eat it slowly over the course of several weeks.

Edited October 25, 2017 by drfate786

[Smaw 2368]

Just now, drfate786 said:

 

How can you add that amount of flesh? Simple, get a dragon or wyvern's corpse and then eat it slowly over the course of several weeks.

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Have you heard of digestion? And that's even entertaining such a ridiculous notion.

 

You can't eat a dragon and grow as big as one. 

 

 

[drfate786 1639]

4 minutes ago, Smaw said:

 

Have you heard of digestion? And that's even entertaining such a ridiculous notion.

 

You can't eat a dragon and grow as big as one. 

 

 

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With this lore it would be completely feasible which is the issue, simply saying it isn't OOC'ly isn't enough when there's no RP explanation behind it. There are various types of dragons and creatures that someone could turn into in order to eat larger creatures. My suggestion to rectify this is to simply state that the more biomass a creature has the more deformed a shapeshifter will become if they attempt to consume it. So attempt to eat a dragon with the above method would just turn the shapeshifter into a pile of writhing tentacles. Speaking of which, that pile of writhing flesh should be their true form.. They shouldn't have any "descendant" true form since there's no horror in it.

Edited October 25, 2017 by drfate786

[_Jandy_ 3189]

23 minutes ago, drfate786 said:

How can you add that amount of flesh? Simple, get a dragon or wyvern's corpse and then eat it slowly over the course of several weeks.

I hope you have a dragon sized refrigerator handy

[BrunoPhil 15]

Ooooh, nice. +1

[Ducklingator 795]

Waaaay too strong. Thrice a human's strength, something I'd estimate to be a bit less than an olog, and supernatural speed, and shapeshifting. In addition, you can still learn magic.

[zaezae 1097]

11 minutes ago, SuperDuckyGamer said:

Waaaay too strong. Thrice a human's strength, something I'd estimate to be a bit less than an olog, and supernatural speed, and shapeshifting. In addition, you can still learn magic.

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Learn water evo and be stronger than FW in every single possible way?

[HedgeHug 2045]

What there already is on LotC in the realm of shapeshifting:

- Illusion magics

- Druidic shapeshifting

- Izkuthii

- Frost Witches

- Certain types of Muyakelg (immortal kind)

- Certain types of husks

 

There is no need for a more generalized form as what is suggested here, as there is already plenty of it out there.

 

On top of that there's a thing or two to mention regarding the depth and quality of his lore. Especially when explaining mechanical workings within the LotC Universe. "Through some sort of Necromancy magic" would be an excellent example of such. DNA isn't much used in LotC lore, as most magics operate through the Soul. You would be better off explaining how this is a permanent alteration and corruption of one's Soul. Connection and mimication of other descendants would require a tether to a Descendant Soul blueprint and therefore need something that links to them.

 

Unnecessary & Vague

 

Talk to me if you'd be interested in a creature that performs about 70% of what you describe here, but cooler because Shamanism.

[link to the cool creature thingey]

[Areln 199]

An interesting read, but it definitely skips over the typical voidal downside of physical weakness, especially for something that doesn't even take up a slot of magic.

 

Even if the person changed to a shapeshifter wasn't a Mage, the strength part still just seems like an unnecessary addition. Imo if you removed the physical strength and speed, this would be a p neat piece of lore! Though that's obviously ignoring the fact that we sorta already have a load of shapeshifters

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[Sporadic 2800]

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Your lore is well-written and despite some of the overlap with other already accepted works I can see how this might work. However, it would need to be retouched massively as well as rebalanced on various fronts. Most jarringly, to me, are the following concerns:

• You state in the beginning "can transform into anything they so desire"... but later it's pointed out this is very false. You can transform into animals and some regular races with a lot of effort. This is confusing.
• You state

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  The physical strength of the creature the Shifter becomes is different and can vary from time to time depending on the size of the descendant race and that races age it transforms into, at least when disguised. They have incredible strength that's worth thrice that of the average human, however their strength will not change due to whatever they change into

  which is confusing at best and contradictory at worst
• The idea that shapeshifters need immense strength, speed, etc on top of what is already a very powerful ability.
• The fact that big balancing factor is that you "have to emote a flaw every 4th RP line"-- great balancing in theory but likely going to look very awkward when actually having to RP with anyone. Having to put something in the character description would be better. Or (since I like D&D) just ask whoever you RP with to roll a d20 halfway and if they get 11+ you emote how your character actually looks unnatural.
• Shapeshifters having theoretical immortality