[Community Review] Raids

[Archipelego 2188]

1 minute ago, Narthok said:

valuable rp narratives and dynamism

kek

[Destroyer_Bravo 1054]

you know I can build a wall that cant be laddered up period with stairs

 

hell I could just make the wall extend out by 1 block from where it is at the surface

 

also can the settlement choose to drop its raid cooldown voluntarily>

[Jollybee 179]

43 minutes ago, Narthok said:

Yes but to be fair you probably won't be raided if you're a smaller settlement with no genuine greivances to another nation. Since these rules heavily restrict raids insofar as no alts, need demonstratable allegiances, needing a base. 

I'm talking about the halflings and the druids. We're decently active playerbases with land that don't actively fight and pvp. We are groups that are centered around roleplay, on a roleplay server. Druids specifically were nearly drove off the server in Vailor because we were raided relentlessly and robbed. Smaller settlements with no guardforce can't defend themselves against an uncapped raid with two day timers. We're easy targets.

 

10 minutes ago, Narthok said:

2.4 Any chest within the confines of the raided settlement may be broken open by the victorious offensive party provided the appropriate destructive emote is provided. Rolling is not required.

People could lose literal years of work because of clicking and next to no roleplay.

[Narthok 10416]

Just now, Archipelego said:

kek

Constructive!

[Archipelego 2188]

Just now, Narthok said:

Constructive!

im not here to try to salvage this shitshow 

[Narthok 10416]

1 minute ago, Jollybee said:

I'm talking about the halflings and the druids. We're decently active playerbases with land that don't actively fight and pvp. We are groups that are centered around roleplay, on a roleplay server. Druids specifically were nearly drove off the server in Vailor because we were raided relentlessly and robbed. Smaller settlements with no guardforce can't defend themselves against an uncapped raid with two day timers. We're easy targets.

 

People could lose literal years of work because of clicking and next to no roleplay.

Again I feel the heavy restrictions I've put on raiders prevents these groups from being raided. Unless you have a conflict with an established entity I do not really see these two groups being raided. Furthermore the halflings have the orcs to defend them and the druids are a dominion vassal. Are you not capable of calling in these rp alliances to assist you should you be attacked especially given the one hour warning?

[Chimp 528]

flamb just needs to shelf the skygods and let players do everything tbh.

[AGP 3169]

Can't wait for my mead that I spend days RPly making to get stolen by raiders while I'm asleep.

 

Guess I'm leaving LotC till the next map, see ya.

[Chimp 528]

Just now, AGiantPie said:

Can't wait for my mead that I spend days RPly making to get stolen by raiders while I'm asleep.

 

Guess I'm leaving LotC till the next map, see ya.

slurp slurp cant wait

[Narthok 10416]

2 minutes ago, AGiantPie said:

Can't wait for my mead that I spend days RPly making to get stolen by raiders while I'm asleep.

 

Guess I'm leaving LotC till the next map, see ya.

I actually included an anti off hours clause  just for this exact reason.

[Man of Respect 5471]

3 hours ago, Gladuos said:

So you're telling me that PVP is default during raids every single time? What happened to compromising between the RPers and PVPers? Seems much more like you've made this solely about PVP.

raids are for pvp and the weak should bend the knee to the strong that can pvp

[WuHanXianShi14 0]

@Narthok Could you stop defaulting to assuming most people who disagree with your proposal just dont understand the rules you wrote

 

Also, off hours are different for everyone. Determining arbitrarily what is and isnt off hours isnt gonna stop people across a range of many timezones from getting their **** taken when they're not online. People also have different work and school schedules.

[AGP 3169]

1 minute ago, Narthok said:

I actually included an anti off hours clause  just for this exact reason.

So? 3-4 people in the defending city when the attackers can rally ∞ isn't exactly reasonable. To be a proper scaling system, raiders should only be allowed to raid proportional to the defending party - else the rule becomes moot unless there's LITERALLY NO ONE online to defend. Losing my items when I wasn't even online feels terrible no matter how many of my fellow citizens were there to defend them. Your system actively incentivizes people to have personal hiding holes in some random freebuild shithole buried 50 blocks underground with no entrance except for a soulstone pillar to keep their items safe rather than have them in the actual place they RP.

[Narthok 10416]

1 minute ago, AGiantPie said:

So? 3-4 people in the defending city when the attackers can rally ∞ isn't exactly reasonable. To be a proper scaling system, raiders should only be allowed to raid proportional to the defending party - else the rule becomes moot unless there's LITERALLY NO ONE online to defend. Losing my items when I wasn't even online feels terrible no matter how many of my fellow citizens were there to defend them. Your system actively incentivizes people to have personal hiding holes in some random freebuild shithole buried 50 blocks underground with no entrance except for a soulstone pillar to keep their items safe rather than have them in the actual place they RP.

no..  they are not allowed to declare a raid unless that threshold is met. At which point the settlement is given an hour warning. Its not ideal but the only alternative is entirely outlawing off hour raiding which tbh I wouldn't be opposed to. As for chests, I understand that people have a deep attachment to their roleplay items for some reason. So perhaps a limit upon how many chests can be sacked. Jaeden suggested that earlier. 

[Quirkyls 484]

16 minutes ago, AGiantPie said:

Can't wait for my mead that I spend days RPly making to get stolen by raiders while I'm asleep.

 

Guess I'm leaving LotC till the next map, see ya.

seek someone that can defend you, you can hire mercanaries, vandalize under someone for protection, bury your prized possessions under a pillow or something

 

there are plenty of creative ways that you can do to protect yourself from villainy,

 

 

you shouldn't be babied by skygods and sky rules