Vote On The Way Combat Should Work!

[K00l 72]

We'll sure miss one single person who isn't open to trying new things! An attitude like that is just the kind of thing we don't need, one that isn't willing to adapt or even put any effort into adapting. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

We've adapted to most things that have been thrown at us from the skygods, be it in game or OOC. Personally, this is where I'd draw the line.

[Pato 82]

Shall anyone who's against PvP attempt to refute Gaius'/Blindmind's points? 

 

Because really, it'll be the only way to convince me.

[LaCabra (Soda) 1519]

We've adapted to most things that have been thrown at us from the skygods, be it in game or OOC. Personally, this is where I'd draw the line.

 

Let me ask you a question - did you watch the livestream?

[youlovesocks 652]

The staff might not like it but I RP a bandit. It only makes sense for me to be able to go around and kill people for items. 

[Samson Option 9652]

Alright, so I am going to give my twenty-one gun salute. Are you ready?

 

1. We have players from all over the world, of different ages, who consume different media.

Some people watch Anime, some people watch the Matrix, some people

self-glorify and imagine themselves in unrealistic situations. From

this, we have different players backed by their own cliques pushing

certain players in their RP fight endeavors, I have seen too much

powergaming from players who think they are in the safe. RP fighting has

caused so much drama because we get into our "Team Jacobs who can

backflip and throw a hatchet point-blank as if this is Call of Duty" and

their 'Team Edwards who watches Bleach and think they can parry five

swords at one time. People forget to comprehend the fact that even

movies are choreographed to have characters win a fight, Darth Maul

should have beat the tar sands out of tired ol Obi Wan Kenobi and now we

have players thinking they can pull the shindig. Likewise, staff are

not hive-mind, even the staff suffers from the problem that they have

different interpretations due to their own experiences as to what the

human body [or other Races] is capable of. Whether it is anime

distorting our view of the human body or uber-realists cringing that you

didn't allow 22 seconds to crank that crossbow-baby up; PvP throws this

out and makes players think outside of the box; ironically taking

either terrain into account [which is hardly taken into account from my

staff PoV] or use tactics.

 

2. This server was never heralded as a 'Heavy RP server', we realised that we

had to go to our Download folders and pop up that Minecraft.exe to even participate

in LotC. This is a Minecraft server, stop abusing the English language and

stating what it is not. LARPing is probably the closest to Hardcore RP

as you will get and most will be anguished to realise that you can't

pull half the stunts pulled on LotC during my tenure atleast. Stating

that 'you are a bad RPer if you use mechanics rather than actually RP"

does two poorly-thought out things:

 

a: You fail to remember that the Aegis system, you had to RP proficiently to

instigate a clash of swords so to speak, don't attempt to blackmail or degrade

those who see the sense in leaning on RP-PvP as 'trying to turn this into MineZ'.

 

b: I reckon us staff should banhammer you if you right-click to eat food

"RP eating and suck it up if hunger bar beats you down into the reality

that this is Minecraft", right-click to purchase from shops, left-click

to access levers and buttons to gain access to certain areas.

 

3. RP fighting takes too much time, whether from players who may have IRL

priorities that they thankfully line up before a game thus allotting

themselves only so much time to play Minecraft. This has actually been

an issue even amongst staff as we get called to try and cut down people

prolonging to either metagame [known as stalling] or drive the other

person into a face-desk at the fact that it is now 6:30PM when he hopped

into the fight at 5:45PM. Players can easily abuse by prolonging a

fight whilst fighting a war with words alongside their clique to shame

and degrade the player that is still fighting. Ties back into #1.

 

4. Lag actually makes you better in PvP as your hitbox is harder to get a registered hit mind you all. Likewise, spam-clicking DOES NOT work, Blawharag proved this.

 

I hope this persuades people into either throwing out their illogical

arguments or at the very least persuades people to give the ol Aegis

Rp-PvP system a chance. Thank You for hearing me out!

 

In reference to Tornado, gg12gg, and a bunch others.

[Shar'ku/jenspelao 410]

If this server does get a PvP default, which it appears to have gone with, I'm leaving.

 

Cya folks.

If this server does get a PvP default, which it appears to have gone with, I'm leaving.

 

Cya folks.

So You rAn out of reasons And now You threaten to leavel lol ? If You can't continue with this argument don't give unmature comments-ipod

[gg12gg 69]

By the promise of "in-depth RP" and "fair combat", brutes have risen to power. But they LIE, they do not fulfill their promises and they never will. They free themselves, but they enslave anyone who doesn't powergame, subjecting them to death or being forced to make a report and go through
all that BS.

 

Let us fight to fulfill those promises through PVP, let us fight to free the server, to do away with hour long RP fights and players exploiting RP fighting. Let us make this a better server.

[blindmind 350]

By the promise of "in-depth RP" and "fair combat", brutes have risen to power. But they LIE, they do not fulfill their promises and they never will. They free themselves, but they enslave anyone who doesn't powergame, subjecting them to death or being forced to make a report and go through

all that BS.

 

Let us fight to fulfill those promises through PVP, let us fight to free the server, to do away with hour long RP fights and players exploiting RP fighting. Let us make this a better server.

This guy knows what' I'm talking about.

[Pato 82]

By the promise of "in-depth RP" and "fair combat", brutes have risen to power. But they LIE, they do not fulfill their promises and they never will. They free themselves, but they enslave anyone who doesn't powergame, subjecting them to death or being forced to make a report and go through

all that BS.

 

Let us fight to fulfill those promises through PVP, let us fight to free the server, to do away with hour long RP fights and players exploiting RP fighting. Let us make this a better server.

[Joe_Blackman 253]

Sigh,

1. If I role-play a builder I have to OOCly be good at building.

2. Their is way more "Play to win" in RP fighting.

3. Just mash one button? That's how you eat food lets make eating not default.

1. You don't HAVE to be OOCly good, you could be an IC builder but be OOCly bad. There a re bundles of ways to gain enjoyment.

2. Explain, please.

3. I don't get the comparison after that question. Maybe it's me.

 

Please, could you put your sentence structure in paragraphs? Not in number order? And please, pleaaase don't put "Sigh" or anything akin to that. It's sorta unneeded and makes you look like a fool in the end if you were to type anything foolish or silly.

[LaCabra (Soda) 1519]

By the promise of "in-depth RP" and "fair combat", brutes have risen to power. But they LIE, they do not fulfill their promises and they never will. They free themselves, but they enslave anyone who doesn't powergame, subjecting them to death or being forced to make a report and go through

all that BS.

 

Let us fight to fulfill those promises through PVP, let us fight to free the server, to do away with hour long RP fights and players exploiting RP fighting. Let us make this a better server.

 

This is exactly what we need to do. I'd plead to those who are against the PvP default to keep this in mind... We can just TRY it out, and if it doesn't go well, then we'll have learned something new, and can find a way to fix it.

[Merkaken 516]

The "That's how we did it in Aegis!!" thing gets old, really. We get it, people liked Aegis, but Aegis is gone, it's bye bye, no more, all gone. Time to move on. 

 

Anyways...

 

I like Gaius' idea. It looks interesting.

[MetaSolaray 242]

Or we can simply talk to the person and actually treat each other like adults? Don't want super long RP fights? Say so in the beginning; or better yet you know what I do? "Everyone involved in the start of the fight are the only people allowed to be involved, no allies for me, and none for you agreed?" Bam now no meta-gamed allies come to help out of the blue. How is it fair for those of us who enjoy RPing our character's RP fighting style now will lose to those who have better access to resources or are simply better in PvP; Klomps were always the PvP fighting, and if you wanted to PvP fight you joined a miltary and fought in wars. RP fights were the fun medium; and I don't know about you but if two guards in full iron armor are chasing me across the landscape they shouldn't be able to catch up to me....MC mecahnics kind of don't stop this.

[meg 1994]

Oh hey might as well check on how the discussion's going in-

 

. . .   

 

 

Silliness and ponies aside, I've thought about it for a while, and, maybe we should try something new. I'm very much open to Gaius's system. We can all agree that PVP and RP have flaws, so maybe a compromise would help? 

 

Although, I will say something, fighting tooth and nail, even to the point of insulting, won't solve the problem. If we're going to fix the problems the server has, we can't be so divided and fight-y with each other. C'mon.

[Joe_Blackman 253]

By the promise of "in-depth RP" and "fair combat", brutes have risen to power. But they LIE, they do not fulfill their promises and they never will. They free themselves, but they enslave anyone who doesn't powergame, subjecting them to death or being forced to make a report and go through

all that BS.

 

Let us fight to fulfill those promises through PVP, let us fight to free the server, to do away with hour long RP fights and players exploiting RP fighting. Let us make this a better server.

You'll be making LoTC a better server, but not a better "#1 RP" server.